Lebanon begins building 'security wall' around Palestinian refugee camp

[Hollie]

montelatici, Onyx, et al,

False analogy.

It's one thing to build a security wall around refugee camps when a country is generously hosting refugees. Another is to build security walls around a population whose lands you have invaded. The latter are called concentration camps.

(COMMENT)

The sentiment is probably true.

BUT, Israel has NOT built a security barrier around any "refugee camp" that I am aware of.

My understanding is that Israel has not encompassed (360º) any Arab Palestinian Territory of camp. The Gaza Strip has a border in common with Egypt; while the West Bank has a border in common with Jordan.

The only reason that the Arab Palestinians would be cut off by both Arab Countries and Israel is because they each face a similar threat.

Refugee camp or concentration camp?

(COMMENT)

Israel, to my knowledge, does not maintain any Arab Palestinian Refugee Camp (not to be confused with immigration Detention Centers). I can't find one to make a correlation.

Do you have a list of Arab Palestinian Refugee Camps that are administered by the Israelis?

Most Respectfully,
R

Thanks for making my point dimwit. The Muslims and Christians of Palestine are an occupied people, not refugees. Both the border with Jordan and Egypt are controlled, respectively, by the Occupying Power, Israel either directly, West Bank or via treaty/agreement Gaza.

The "angry Monty" thing is precious.

The Arabs-Moslems you call "Pal'istanians" are their own worst enemies. Of course the borders with Israel, Jordan and Egypt are controlled. The borders are controlled due to the actions of the Islamic terrorist groups occupying the disputed territories.

 

[montelatici]

montelatici, Onyx, et al,

False analogy.

It's one thing to build a security wall around refugee camps when a country is generously hosting refugees. Another is to build security walls around a population whose lands you have invaded. The latter are called concentration camps.

(COMMENT)

The sentiment is probably true.

BUT, Israel has NOT built a security barrier around any "refugee camp" that I am aware of.

My understanding is that Israel has not encompassed (360º) any Arab Palestinian Territory of camp. The Gaza Strip has a border in common with Egypt; while the West Bank has a border in common with Jordan.

The only reason that the Arab Palestinians would be cut off by both Arab Countries and Israel is because they each face a similar threat.

Refugee camp or concentration camp?

(COMMENT)

Israel, to my knowledge, does not maintain any Arab Palestinian Refugee Camp (not to be confused with immigration Detention Centers). I can't find one to make a correlation.

Do you have a list of Arab Palestinian Refugee Camps that are administered by the Israelis?

Most Respectfully,
R

Thanks for making my point dimwit. The Muslims and Christians of Palestine are an occupied people, not refugees. Both the border with Jordan and Egypt are controlled, respectively, by the Occupying Power, Israel either directly, West Bank or via treaty/agreement Gaza.

The "angry Monty" thing is precious.

The Arabs-Moslems you call "Pal'istanians" are their own worst enemies. Of course the borders with Israel, Jordan and Egypt are controlled. The borders are controlled due to the actions of the Islamic terrorist groups occupying the disputed territories.

Hilarious. Still claiming Australians are in Palestine.

 

[Hollie]

montelatici, Onyx, et al,

False analogy.

It's one thing to build a security wall around refugee camps when a country is generously hosting refugees. Another is to build security walls around a population whose lands you have invaded. The latter are called concentration camps.

(COMMENT)

The sentiment is probably true.

BUT, Israel has NOT built a security barrier around any "refugee camp" that I am aware of.

My understanding is that Israel has not encompassed (360º) any Arab Palestinian Territory of camp. The Gaza Strip has a border in common with Egypt; while the West Bank has a border in common with Jordan.

The only reason that the Arab Palestinians would be cut off by both Arab Countries and Israel is because they each face a similar threat.

Refugee camp or concentration camp?

(COMMENT)

Israel, to my knowledge, does not maintain any Arab Palestinian Refugee Camp (not to be confused with immigration Detention Centers). I can't find one to make a correlation.

Do you have a list of Arab Palestinian Refugee Camps that are administered by the Israelis?

Most Respectfully,
R

Thanks for making my point dimwit. The Muslims and Christians of Palestine are an occupied people, not refugees. Both the border with Jordan and Egypt are controlled, respectively, by the Occupying Power, Israel either directly, West Bank or via treaty/agreement Gaza.

The "angry Monty" thing is precious.

The Arabs-Moslems you call "Pal'istanians" are their own worst enemies. Of course the borders with Israel, Jordan and Egypt are controlled. The borders are controlled due to the actions of the Islamic terrorist groups occupying the disputed territories.

Hilarious. Still claiming Australians are in Palestine.

Getting even more frantic, I see.

I'm still getting a chuckle over your claim that Lebanon is "generously hosting" the very people they keep segregated in walled, happy-fun Pal'istanian internment camps. Nothing says "generously hosting" like razor wire and walled compounds for the undesirables.

If you do a search, you will discover that the "generously hosting" Lebanese are in fact constructing towers for armed guards who will be a part of the "generously hosting" Lebanese.

 

[montelatici]

Heh, heh.

 

[fanger]

Lebanon freezes plan for Ain al-Hilweh's 'racist wall'
The Lebanese army has "paused" construction of a controversial "security" wall being built around the country's largest Palestinian refugee camp, Ain al-Hilweh, near the southern port city of Sidon.

While it is unclear whether construction will continue, a military spokesman told Al Jazeera that the army would release a statement in the coming days to "clarify" the reasons behind the decision to build the wall.

 

[Roudy]

In September, Islamic State group's top commander in Lebanon, Imad Yassin was arrested at his hideout in an overnight raid on the camp.

How many NGO's, do you think, will cry "apartheid!" or "occupation" ?
Should we send Roger Waters with the UN specialists?
Who else are the balestinians hiding ?

Well, on the bright side, they're using the crane for its intended purpose, and not for hanging gays, adulterers, those who blaspheme Islam, women who don't cover themselves properly, etc. like they do in some Muslim countries.

 

[Phoenall]

rylah, et al,

Well, these types of activities in such locations would be a threat to any country.

The first blocks of an isolation wall were erected around the largest Palestinian refugee camp in Lebanon this week, as a plan to build 'security' cordons and watchtowers around Ain al-Hilweh came into effect.

In September, Islamic State group's top commander in Lebanon, Imad Yassin was arrested at his hideout in an overnight raid on the camp.

How many NGO's, do you think, will cry "apartheid!" or "occupation" ?
Should we send Roger Waters with the UN specialists?
Who else are the balestinians hiding ?​

​

(COMMENT)

Just as most security barriers, it would seem that the threat is being quarantined. It is a security countermeasure against a potential threat.

Most Respectfully,
R

It's one thing to build a security wall around refugee camps when a country is generously hosting refugees. Another is to build security walls around a population whose lands you have invaded. The latter are called concentration camps.

And it was the romans and arabs that invaded the lands of the Jews, then the lands of the Inca, Cherokee, Sioux, Mohican, Tolmecs and all the other extinct American indeginous peoples.


The reason for the security wall is to fence in the terrorists that are a threat to the whole world

 

[Phoenall]

Who are the Pal'istanians? The Lebanese are generously hosting the Palistinians, not Australians.

Palistan Weather - AccuWeather Forecast for New South Wales Australia

Different spelling doofus, whats wrong cant you read English ? ? ? ? ? ?

 

[Phoenall]

Well, if you don't understand the difference between hosting refugees and interning a population on land acquired by conquest, you can't be helped. Your ailment is known as cognitive dissonance.

That you exude by the bucket load everyday when you deny the facts. When did the arab muslims ever own the land of palestine after 1099. Why is the international law altered just for islam regarding refugees, meaning that Lebanon is not hosting refugees but holding them as illegal prisoners with no rights.


You do realise that you have just proven yourself to be a moron by claiming that the arab muslims cant intern the Jews on the lands they have conqured so should be moved on

 

[Phoenall]

What does Lebanon have to do with Black September? Are you bewildered again?

You need a pencil, paper and some dots, dear.

Again, between you and MJ, I can't decide which one of you is more ignorant of the facts.

Because palestinian scum were involved in both when they were given a taste of their own medicines. In Lebanon the indigenous Christians took revenge for PLO atrocities. in Jordan the troops took revenge for PLO atrocities. Both involved refugee camps for the benefit of palestinians that they used for terrorism.

 

[Phoenall]

You are confusing Lebanon with Jordan and you expect anyone to take you seriously? It's like MJ's Muslim Archbishop. You two should stop posting, you are doing your fellow propagandists no favors. LOL

Your obvious limitations caused you to miss my reference to "connecting dots" in connection with the Lebanese building an Islamist terrorist holding facility.

Isolating the Pal'istanians within a walled compound can hardly be described as "generously hosting". But then again, I'll have to understand your obvious limitations.

Allowing refugees to live within a country that is not theirs has a cost, so it is generous of the host country to host the refugees.

The Lebanese, like the Europeans are generously hosting refugees today within walled or fenced holding centers, you are obviously ill-informed as to the necessity of controlling the movement of refugees until a permanent immigration solution is found. Below is such a camp in Greece.

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Cant find any concentration camps with armed guards anywhere in Europe apart from the islamic nation stolen from the former Yugoslavia.

Your camp in Greece is for holding illegal immigrants and criminals that are sent straight back to Turkey after being found guilty

 

[Phoenall]

Of course refugees can't be allowed to leave until a permanent immigration solution is found. Are you that dim that you don't understand the process? You are beginning to overtake MJ in dimwittedness. LOL

You do know that 95% of all alleged refugees from Syria are not even Syrian and are just terrorists. That is why so few women are accompanying the men and the rapes in Europe have increased in proportion to he numbers of invaders

 

[Phoenall]

Refugee camp or concentration camp?

The latter as the palestinians are known for the levels of violence they carry out

 

[Phoenall]

montelatici, Onyx, et al,

False analogy.

It's one thing to build a security wall around refugee camps when a country is generously hosting refugees. Another is to build security walls around a population whose lands you have invaded. The latter are called concentration camps.

(COMMENT)

The sentiment is probably true.

BUT, Israel has NOT built a security barrier around any "refugee camp" that I am aware of.

My understanding is that Israel has not encompassed (360º) any Arab Palestinian Territory of camp. The Gaza Strip has a border in common with Egypt; while the West Bank has a border in common with Jordan.

The only reason that the Arab Palestinians would be cut off by both Arab Countries and Israel is because they each face a similar threat.

Refugee camp or concentration camp?

(COMMENT)

Israel, to my knowledge, does not maintain any Arab Palestinian Refugee Camp (not to be confused with immigration Detention Centers). I can't find one to make a correlation.

Do you have a list of Arab Palestinian Refugee Camps that are administered by the Israelis?

Most Respectfully,
R

Thanks for making my point dimwit. The Muslims and Christians of Palestine are an occupied people, not refugees. Both the border with Jordan and Egypt are controlled, respectively, by the Occupying Power, Israel either directly, West Bank or via treaty/agreement Gaza.

And the border with Israel is legal and the same as that employed by America between them and Canada and Mexico. The same as the border between Saudi and Yemen, Jordan and Syria, Kuwait and Iraq etc

And hamas has built a second fence to act as a border on their side which is more heavily armed

 

[Phoenall]

montelatici, Onyx, et al,

False analogy.

It's one thing to build a security wall around refugee camps when a country is generously hosting refugees. Another is to build security walls around a population whose lands you have invaded. The latter are called concentration camps.

(COMMENT)

The sentiment is probably true.

BUT, Israel has NOT built a security barrier around any "refugee camp" that I am aware of.

My understanding is that Israel has not encompassed (360º) any Arab Palestinian Territory of camp. The Gaza Strip has a border in common with Egypt; while the West Bank has a border in common with Jordan.

The only reason that the Arab Palestinians would be cut off by both Arab Countries and Israel is because they each face a similar threat.

Refugee camp or concentration camp?

(COMMENT)

Israel, to my knowledge, does not maintain any Arab Palestinian Refugee Camp (not to be confused with immigration Detention Centers). I can't find one to make a correlation.

Do you have a list of Arab Palestinian Refugee Camps that are administered by the Israelis?

Most Respectfully,
R

Thanks for making my point dimwit. The Muslims and Christians of Palestine are an occupied people, not refugees. Both the border with Jordan and Egypt are controlled, respectively, by the Occupying Power, Israel either directly, West Bank or via treaty/agreement Gaza.

The "angry Monty" thing is precious.

The Arabs-Moslems you call "Pal'istanians" are their own worst enemies. Of course the borders with Israel, Jordan and Egypt are controlled. The borders are controlled due to the actions of the Islamic terrorist groups occupying the disputed territories.

Hilarious. Still claiming Australians are in Palestine.

No as the spelling is different, that is your trick because you have no other argument

 

[Hossfly]

montelatici, Onyx, et al,

False analogy.

It's one thing to build a security wall around refugee camps when a country is generously hosting refugees. Another is to build security walls around a population whose lands you have invaded. The latter are called concentration camps.

(COMMENT)

The sentiment is probably true.

BUT, Israel has NOT built a security barrier around any "refugee camp" that I am aware of.

My understanding is that Israel has not encompassed (360º) any Arab Palestinian Territory of camp. The Gaza Strip has a border in common with Egypt; while the West Bank has a border in common with Jordan.

The only reason that the Arab Palestinians would be cut off by both Arab Countries and Israel is because they each face a similar threat.

Refugee camp or concentration camp?

(COMMENT)

Israel, to my knowledge, does not maintain any Arab Palestinian Refugee Camp (not to be confused with immigration Detention Centers). I can't find one to make a correlation.

Do you have a list of Arab Palestinian Refugee Camps that are administered by the Israelis?

Most Respectfully,
R

RoccoR, around the year 2000, there was a story in the newspaper about the Rafah Refugee Camp in Gaza. As one inhabitant put it, he didn't like Hamas and that they were driving around in their Mercedes Benz. He missed the Israeli representative for the camp (whom he called the Governor) and said he would come around in his old beat-up car asking if anyone in the camp needed anything.

When you come right down to it, all those Palestinians still in camps are kept there for a purpose -- as pawns of the Arabs world in their fight against the hated Jews. Imagine if the millions and millions of Displaced Persons of World War II Europe were still in camps.

 

[Phoenall]

montelatici, Onyx, et al,

False analogy.

It's one thing to build a security wall around refugee camps when a country is generously hosting refugees. Another is to build security walls around a population whose lands you have invaded. The latter are called concentration camps.

(COMMENT)

The sentiment is probably true.

BUT, Israel has NOT built a security barrier around any "refugee camp" that I am aware of.

My understanding is that Israel has not encompassed (360º) any Arab Palestinian Territory of camp. The Gaza Strip has a border in common with Egypt; while the West Bank has a border in common with Jordan.

The only reason that the Arab Palestinians would be cut off by both Arab Countries and Israel is because they each face a similar threat.

Refugee camp or concentration camp?

(COMMENT)

Israel, to my knowledge, does not maintain any Arab Palestinian Refugee Camp (not to be confused with immigration Detention Centers). I can't find one to make a correlation.

Do you have a list of Arab Palestinian Refugee Camps that are administered by the Israelis?

Most Respectfully,
R

RoccoR, around the year 2000, there was a story in the newspaper about the Rafah Refugee Camp in Gaza. As one inhabitant put it, he didn't like Hamas and that they were driving around in their Mercedes Benz. He missed the Israeli representative for the camp (whom he called the Governor) and said he would come around in his old beat-up car asking if anyone in the camp needed anything.

When you come right down to it, all those Palestinians still in camps are kept there for a purpose -- as pawns of the Arabs world in their fight against the hated Jews. Imagine if the millions and millions of Displaced Persons of World War II Europe were still in camps.

This is what confuses me, gaza is part of palestine so why are palestinian refugees forced to live in concentration camps in their own country. Have the UN lost the plot and forgotten the rules they force other groups to implement, or are they just afraid of hamas and fatah and so give in to their demands all the time.

 

[rylah]

So you care so little that you troll a thread that has actually no US mention in it?

Get yourself a stick with a board if you're into meaningless slogans

It's not trolling to point out that the countless competing factions in the ME share many evil stances among each other.

It's trolling when you don't address anything in the OP.

Of course it has nothing to do with the balestinians trying to overthrow governments, stub pregnant women... or hide islamist militants that aim at destroying the US. Nothing you care about right?

I did address the OP. I pointed out the anti-Pali crowd can count a new ally among themselves. Now you've gone and turned it into this whole thing.

Don't you know the balestinians have been targeting the Lebanese for decades?
Lebanon is simply pro-Lebanon, the balestinians are actually those who're anti anything but pan-Arabic.
Nothing new here, except for the Arabs taking measures that actually worked for Israel.

This is so true. The PLO was even based in Lebanon with weapons galore in the bunkers of Sabra & Shatila. What right did Palestinian terrorists have to be based in Lebanon?

From what I know the Lebanese people suffered from many attacks.
Anyway in my opinion, building a wall might not be an immediate solution for Lebanon.

Just to make it clear, the Lebanese (Sidon Phoenicians ) are an ancient people, the Canaanites, much like Druze and Kurds. It was a vibrant modern and fun place until the civil war.

 

[rylah]

rylah, et al,

Well, these types of activities in such locations would be a threat to any country.

The first blocks of an isolation wall were erected around the largest Palestinian refugee camp in Lebanon this week, as a plan to build 'security' cordons and watchtowers around Ain al-Hilweh came into effect.

In September, Islamic State group's top commander in Lebanon, Imad Yassin was arrested at his hideout in an overnight raid on the camp.

How many NGO's, do you think, will cry "apartheid!" or "occupation" ?
Should we send Roger Waters with the UN specialists?
Who else are the balestinians hiding ?​

​

(COMMENT)

Just as most security barriers, it would seem that the threat is being quarantined. It is a security countermeasure against a potential threat.

Most Respectfully,
R

What kind of measures would be more effective, how can you convince people to fight against this kind of activities on their streets, without giving them enough power to also cause civil unrest in the future?