Zone1 Knowledge, the forbidden fruit

[ding]

the story of Adam and eve was just a literary tool, a fairy tale of sorts, to educate Hebrew children whose people just came out of hundreds of years of slavery in Egypt about the dangers of losing your mind, your sanity and awareness for life to cultic practices, the talking serpent, The Nachash, a direct reference to the pharaoh who wore a serpent on his head, the highest star of the ancient world and master at the magical arts, sorcery, what is now known as mind control

So what you are saying is that this was just a fairy tale used to educate Hebrew children about the dangers of mind control from religion?

As opposed to being the foundation for deep discussions on such things as right and wrong, free will, human nature, etc.?

Seems like an anti-religious and secular interpretation to me. Do you have any supporting data for this conclusion?

I am not a religious person, even though I am paying them back in their own coin.

I can tell. I could have come up with about a thousand things that were more deep and intellectually challenging than your shallow and intellectually dead end interpretation.

 

[hobelim]

So what you are saying is that this was just a fairy tale used to educate Hebrew children about the dangers of mind control from religion?

Yes. What? Are you hard of reading? The pharaoh who disputed with Moses wore a serpent on his head. In Hebrew Nachash is both a noun and an adjective meaning serpent, brazen, shiny one, and/or one who practices divination, the magical arts, what is now known as mind control.

The stars of the ancient world.

As opposed to being the foundation for deep discussions on such things as right and wrong, free will, human nature, etc.?

A false dichotomy. Pathetic.

Seems like an anti-religious and secular interpretation to me. Do you have any supporting data for this conclusion?

Yeah, any book written by man that starts with "in the beginning" just like "once upon a time" and then immediately introduces a subtle and crafty talking serpent is a children's story..... DUH.

 

[hobelim]

I can tell. I could have come up with about a thousand things that were more deep and intellectually challenging than your shallow and intellectually dead end interpretation.

Well goodie for you! The problem with that is truth has always been simple, not deep or arcane.

God in His wisdom made it so, revealing simple truths that remain above the grasp of your ego..

"So he drove the man out and to the east of Eden he stationed the Cherubim, with a flaming and flashing sword, that turns in every direction, to guard the way to the tree of life"

 

[ding]

Yes. What? Are you hard of reading? The pharaoh who disputed with Moses wore a serpent on his head. In Hebrew Nachash is both a noun and an adjective meaning serpent, brazen, shiny one, and/or one who practices divination, the magical arts, what is now known as mind control.

The stars of the ancient world.


A false dichotomy. Pathetic.


Yeah, any book written by man that starts with "in the beginning" just like "once upon a time" and then immediately introduces a subtle and crafty talking serpent is a children's story..... DUH.

Says the secular humanist.

 

[ding]

Well goodie for you! The problem with that is truth has always been simple, not deep or arcane.

God in His wisdom made it so, revealing simple truths that remain above the grasp of your ego..

"So he drove the man out and to the east of Eden he stationed the Cherubim, with a flaming and flashing sword, that turns in every direction, to guard the way to the tree of life"

Your views are pretty shallow. But then again, you're an atheist pretending not to be an atheist so at the end of the day your beliefs are those of an intellectual dead end. As atheism is an intellectual dead end.

 

[ding]

The tree of knowledge is a reworked rip off from Greek Mythology, the story of Pandora's box

The account was recorded as symbols in the Chinese language 4500 years ago. Which was 1100 years before the Torah was written. How do you believe this was possible?

 

[ding]

The tree of knowledge is a reworked rip off from Greek Mythology, the story of Pandora's box

How do you think the accounts of Genesis could have been recorded as symbols in the Chinese written language 1100 years before it was recorded by the Jews? Serious question. Do you know? Any guesses?

 

[Arlette]

How do you think the accounts of Genesis could have been recorded as symbols in the Chinese written language 1100 years before it was recorded by the Jews? Serious question. Do you know? Any guesses?

Nope

 

[ding]

Nope

It's because of a shared heritage before they migrated east to China. The religion was brought from Mesopotamia to China. It's what the account of the Tower of Babel is about. The great migration. So what it proves is that these accounts were probably a couple of thousand years old and had been passed down orally from generation to generation before being recorded at the time of Moses.
This shit is way deeper than you can ever imagine.

 

[Arlette]

It's because of a shared heritage before they migrated east to China. The religion was brought from Mesopotamia to China. It's what the account of the Tower of Babel is about. The great migration. So what it proves is that these accounts were probably a couple of thousand years old and had been passed down orally from generation to generation before being recorded at the time of Moses.
This shit is way deeper than you can ever imagine.

Link please

 

[ding]

Link please

 

[Arlette]

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I asked for a link. Where is this ^^^ coming from?

 

[Libby von H]

Knowledge is the antithesis of religion.
Religion is built around ignorance. "well we dont know the answer so.... a god did it"

From your posts I KNOW you are ignorant. For one thing you never criticize "Evolution did it"
And not very educated as 'God did it" does not rule out secondary causes or how it got done,
An architect can look at a 90 story building and say "I did that"
IF I fire a gun at you then "I killed you"does not excluled 'The Bullet killed you"

But you are denses. So why answer? So people can see HOW DENSE

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[BreezeWood]

I asked for a link. Where is this ^^^ coming from?

* does anyone speak or read china - its probably about romeo and juliette ... bing lost his mind long ago.

 

[Arlette]

* does anyone speak or read china - its probably about romeo and juliette ... bing lost his mind long ago.

Looks like we lost bing. Elvis has left the building and I don't think a link is forthcoming

 

[ding]

I asked for a link. Where is this ^^^ coming from?

From the allegorical account of the great migration from Mesopotamia, in other words from the Bible itself. Approximately 1100 years before Moses recorded the allegorical accounts of the history of the world, the Chinese recorded this history as symbols in the Chinese language. They drew pictures to express words or ideas. Simple pictures were combined to make more complex thoughts. They used well known history and common everyday things to make a word so people could easily remember it. The account of Genesis found it's way into the Chinese written language because the Chinese had migrated from the cradle of civilization. Prior to this migration they all shared a common history and religion.

The Bible even explains how it was possible for the Chinese to record the account of Genesis 1100 years before Moses recorded it. The account of the Tower of Babel was the allegorical account of the great migration from Mesopotamia. This also explains why all ancient cultures have an account of a great flood. Because they all shared a common history and religion before the great migration from the cradle of civilization.

So the "link" you requested is the account of the Tower of Babel and the history of the 1st three Chinese dynasties.

 

[Arlette]

From the allegorical account of the great migration from Mesopotamia, in other words from the Bible itself. Approximately 1100 years before Moses recorded the allegorical accounts of the history of the world, the Chinese recorded this history as symbols in the Chinese language. They drew pictures to express words or ideas. Simple pictures were combined to make more complex thoughts. They used well known history and common everyday things to make a word so people could easily remember it. The account of Genesis found it's way into the Chinese written language because the Chinese had migrated from the cradle of civilization. Prior to this migration they all shared a common history and religion.

The Bible even explains how it was possible for the Chinese to record the account of Genesis 1100 years before Moses recorded it. The account of the Tower of Babel was the allegorical account of the great migration from Mesopotamia. This also explains why all ancient cultures have an account of a great flood. Because they all shared a common history and religion before the great migration from the cradle of civilization.

So the "link" you requested is the account of the Tower of Babel and the history of the 1st three Chinese dynasties.

Google allegory

 

[ding]

Google allegory

Animal Farm is an allegorical account of socialism. Was communism not an historical event?

Just as the Chinese used well known history and everyday things as symbols in their written language to make words easier to remember, ancient man used stories to pass down historical events and important knowledge to future generations. Interspersed in these allegorical accounts of history are wisdoms that they deemed important enough to pass down and remember. Such as man knows right from wrong and when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong he rationalizes he didn't do wrong. Most people don't even realize this wisdom is in the Torah because they read it critically instead of searching for the wisdom that ancient man knew and found important enough to include in his account of world history.

 

[Arlette]

Animal Farm is an allegorical account of socialism. Was communism not an historical event?

Just as the Chinese used well known history and everyday things as symbols in their written language to make words easier to remember, ancient man used stories to pass down historical events and important knowledge to future generations. Interspersed in these allegorical accounts of history are wisdoms that they deemed important enough to pass down and remember. Such as man knows right from wrong and when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong he rationalizes he didn't do wrong. Most people don't even realize this wisdom is in the Torah because they read it critically instead of searching for the wisdom that ancient man knew and found important enough to include in his account of world history.

That's just not good enough. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

 

[ding]

That's just not good enough. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

These accounts are over 6,000 years old and were passed down orally from one generation to the next for thousands of years. Surely ancient man believed these accounts were of the utmost importance otherwise they would not have been passed down for thousands of years before they were recorded in writing. We shouldn't view these accounts using the context of the modern world. Unfortunately, we are so far removed from these events that we have lost all original meaning. If you were to ask almost any Jew what the Tower of Babel was about he would have no clue that it was the allegorical account of the great migration from the cradle of civilization. That is not intended to be a criticism. It is intended to be an illustration of just how difficult a task it is to discover the original meaning from ancient accounts from 6,000 years ago. You read these texts like they were written yesterday looking for ways to discredit them and make yourself feel superior rather than seeking the original meaning and wisdom. Shame on you.