Kerry tells Israel that Syria accord is no prelude to Iran deal

[Lipush]

"The U.S. government sought to reassure Israel on Sunday that the U.S.-Russia deal to secure Syria’s chemical weapons does not diminish American resolve to prevent Iran from gaining a nuclear weapon.

Secretary of State John F. Kerry flew to Israel to personally brief Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on what he called “the most far-reaching chemical weapons removal ever.”

We cannot have hollow words in the conduct of international affairs, because that affects all other issues, whether Iran or North Korea or others,” Kerry said after talks with Netanyahu."

Kerry tells Israel that Syria accord is no prelude to Iran deal - The Washington Post

The US has no choice but to be uniform in it's approach to the chemical weapons in Syria or any other weapons of mass destruction. To do so would be to invite further instability in the region and weaken the US as an international player.

Riiiiight

 

[Roudy]

Uniform manner yes ? How do you see that ? There are 7 countries I in the entire world that haven't signed and ratified the CWC. Israel is one of them.

So what. We are discussing the uniformity of US response.

We ask Syria and Iran to disarm but not Israel.
It's that simple.

Israel used chemical weapons on its own people?

 

[dilloduck]

So what. We are discussing the uniformity of US response.

We ask Syria and Iran to disarm but not Israel.
It's that simple.

Israel successfully defends itself the past 65 years and it boils down to, "Israel isn't playing fair.They won't take a whipping so it's only fair that they should disarm and let Allah's Warriors win for once". In a pig's eye!

No one is asking for Israel to take a whipping. They are asking Israel to comply by the same Chemical Weapons Treaty that other countries have signed on to. Even Syria has signed onto it now. What's the hold up ?

 

[Roudy]

We're acting as the "world's policeman" and asking some countries to disarm but when someone else says "how about Israel ? ", we ignore it. It's one of the reasons al Qaeda declared war against us.
There's not even the slightest attempt at the US being fair about it. We are not uniform in our approach.

You are putting the spin of "world policeman", I see the US acting in their own best interests and that means treating allies like allies. The approach is nonetheless uniform. Specifically, on what basis do you suggest the US act against Israel or any other ally.

The US does act in it's own interests and the interests of it's allies. That's why when it plays on the international level it's seen acting in a bias as non uniform manner.
It's doesn't say WMDs should be destroyed everywhere. It says they should be destroyed everywhere but Israel. We and the UN demand that Iran open up for nuclear inspections yet allow Israel to refuse.
You must see the obvious bias and the reason other countries scream foul.

The only reason Israel MAY have nuclear weapons, is because of countries run by lunatics like Assad or Islamist nutjobs like Iran. Dream on if you think it's going to give up its weapons and make itself vulnerable.

 

[Roudy]

We ask Syria and Iran to disarm but not Israel.
It's that simple.

Israel successfully defends itself the past 65 years and it boils down to, "Israel isn't playing fair.They won't take a whipping so it's only fair that they should disarm and let Allah's Warriors win for once". In a pig's eye!

No one is asking for Israel to take a whipping. They are asking Israel to comply by the same Chemical Weapons Treaty that other countries have signed on to. Even Syria has signed onto it now. What's the hold up ?

There is no evidence Israel has chemical weapons, and no one has accused it to have any.

Nuclear weapons, maybe. And for good reason.

 

[dilloduck]

You are putting the spin of "world policeman", I see the US acting in their own best interests and that means treating allies like allies. The approach is nonetheless uniform. Specifically, on what basis do you suggest the US act against Israel or any other ally.

The US does act in it's own interests and the interests of it's allies. That's why when it plays on the international level it's seen acting in a bias as non uniform manner.
It's doesn't say WMDs should be destroyed everywhere. It says they should be destroyed everywhere but Israel. We and the UN demand that Iran open up for nuclear inspections yet allow Israel to refuse.
You must see the obvious bias and the reason other countries scream foul.

The only reason Israel MAY have nuclear weapons, is because of countries run by lunatics like Assad or Islamist nutjobs like Iran. Dream on if you think it's going to give up its weapons and make itself vulnerable.

Horseshit---everyone knows Israel has nukes. And everyone knows that while Israel demands every other country submit to treaties and disarmament, Israel will not comply with any of it. If Israel is attacked it has sworn to use every weapon available in it's arsenal to protect itself. That would understandably include gas.

 

[Roudy]

So what. We are discussing the uniformity of US response.

We ask Syria and Iran to disarm but not Israel.
It's that simple.

Israel successfully defends itself the past 65 years and it boils down to, "Israel isn't playing fair.They won't take a whipping so it's only fair that they should disarm and let Allah's Warriors win for once". In a pig's eye!

Keep in mind these same savages that want Israel destroyed have been persecuting and oppressing their own Jewish minorities for hundreds of years, until the final ethnic cleansing in the 1940's and 1960's.

Suddenly these same peaceful people that they killed, tortured, oppressed, bullied as a cultural tradition are now fighting back and defending themselves quite successfully. They are not able get over it.

 

[dilloduck]

Israel successfully defends itself the past 65 years and it boils down to, "Israel isn't playing fair.They won't take a whipping so it's only fair that they should disarm and let Allah's Warriors win for once". In a pig's eye!

No one is asking for Israel to take a whipping. They are asking Israel to comply by the same Chemical Weapons Treaty that other countries have signed on to. Even Syria has signed onto it now. What's the hold up ?

There is no evidence Israel has chemical weapons, and no one has accused it to have any.

Nuclear weapons, maybe. And for good reason.

Israel has always kept a low profile when it comes to its own chemical weapons program. They signed the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) in 1982 but never ratified it, which means that Israel considers itself bound by the spirit of the treaty, but not legally obligated to observe it.
“The main pretext for Israel’s refusal to ratify the treaty was the Syrian arsenal,” Eitan Barak, a professor of international relations from Hebrew University, told The Media Line. “Israel says Syria is a neighbor country, hostile, with a large arsenal of chemical weapons and we needed to be able to retaliate.”

Israel under pressure to give up chemical, nuclear weapons | JPost | Israel News

 

[Roudy]

The US does act in it's own interests and the interests of it's allies. That's why when it plays on the international level it's seen acting in a bias as non uniform manner.
It's doesn't say WMDs should be destroyed everywhere. It says they should be destroyed everywhere but Israel. We and the UN demand that Iran open up for nuclear inspections yet allow Israel to refuse.
You must see the obvious bias and the reason other countries scream foul.

The only reason Israel MAY have nuclear weapons, is because of countries run by lunatics like Assad or Islamist nutjobs like Iran. Dream on if you think it's going to give up its weapons and make itself vulnerable.

Horseshit---everyone knows Israel has nukes. And everyone knows that while Israel demands every other country submit to treaties and disarmament, Israel will not comply with any of it. If Israel is attacked it has sworn to use every weapon available in it's arsenal to protect itself. That would understandably include gas.

Dildo-brain, Israel has been attacked by groups of Arab countries several times, over the last sixty five years. Not a day goes by that some Muslim country doesn't announce it's intention to destroy Israel. And you want it to do what again...disarm? Sure sure.

Dream on.

 

[dilloduck]

We ask Syria and Iran to disarm but not Israel.
It's that simple.

Israel successfully defends itself the past 65 years and it boils down to, "Israel isn't playing fair.They won't take a whipping so it's only fair that they should disarm and let Allah's Warriors win for once". In a pig's eye!

Keep in mind these same savages that want Israel destroyed have been persecuting and oppressing their own Jewish minorities for hundreds of years, until the final ethnic cleansing in the 1940's and 1960's.

Suddenly these same peaceful people that they killed, tortured, oppressed, bullied as a cultural tradition are now fighting back and defending themselves quite successfully. They are not able get over it.

Yadda yadda yadda---it's always some reason that Israel should be exempt from International Law and treaties. It's not the only country in danger you know.

 

[dilloduck]

The only reason Israel MAY have nuclear weapons, is because of countries run by lunatics like Assad or Islamist nutjobs like Iran. Dream on if you think it's going to give up its weapons and make itself vulnerable.

Horseshit---everyone knows Israel has nukes. And everyone knows that while Israel demands every other country submit to treaties and disarmament, Israel will not comply with any of it. If Israel is attacked it has sworn to use every weapon available in it's arsenal to protect itself. That would understandably include gas.

Dildo-brain, Israel has been attacked by groups of Arab countries several times, over the last sixty five years. Not a day goes by that some Muslim country doesn't announce it's intention to destroy Israel. And you want it to do what again...disarm? Sure sure.

Dream on.

I didn't say "disarm" fool. NEVER.

 

[Roudy]

No one is asking for Israel to take a whipping. They are asking Israel to comply by the same Chemical Weapons Treaty that other countries have signed on to. Even Syria has signed onto it now. What's the hold up ?

There is no evidence Israel has chemical weapons, and no one has accused it to have any.

Nuclear weapons, maybe. And for good reason.

Israel has always kept a low profile when it comes to its own chemical weapons program. They signed the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) in 1982 but never ratified it, which means that Israel considers itself bound by the spirit of the treaty, but not legally obligated to observe it.
“The main pretext for Israel’s refusal to ratify the treaty was the Syrian arsenal,” Eitan Barak, a professor of international relations from Hebrew University, told The Media Line. “Israel says Syria is a neighbor country, hostile, with a large arsenal of chemical weapons and we needed to be able to retaliate.”

Israel under pressure to give up chemical, nuclear weapons | JPost | Israel News

Article doesn't show any evidence for chemical weapons. It does however confirm that ALL of its enemies do have chemical weapons.

 

[dilloduck]

In 1993, the U.S. Congress Office of Technology Assessment WMD proliferation assessment recorded Israel as a country generally reported as having undeclared offensive chemical warfare capabilities.[2] Former US deputy assistant secretary of defense responsible for chemical and biological defense, Bill Richardson, said in 1998 "I have no doubt that Israel has worked on both chemical and biological offensive things for a long time... There's no doubt they've had stuff for years."[19]

Israel and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Roudy]

Israel successfully defends itself the past 65 years and it boils down to, "Israel isn't playing fair.They won't take a whipping so it's only fair that they should disarm and let Allah's Warriors win for once". In a pig's eye!

Keep in mind these same savages that want Israel destroyed have been persecuting and oppressing their own Jewish minorities for hundreds of years, until the final ethnic cleansing in the 1940's and 1960's.

Suddenly these same peaceful people that they killed, tortured, oppressed, bullied as a cultural tradition are now fighting back and defending themselves quite successfully. They are not able get over it.

Yadda yadda yadda---it's always some reason that Israel should be exempt from International Law and treaties. It's not the only country in danger you know.

Yada yada yada. As long as it is being attacked by countries like Syria that constantly violate international treaties, Israel will do what it has to.

 

[Roudy]

In 1993, the U.S. Congress Office of Technology Assessment WMD proliferation assessment recorded Israel as a country generally reported as having undeclared offensive chemical warfare capabilities.[2] Former US deputy assistant secretary of defense responsible for chemical and biological defense, Bill Richardson, said in 1998 "I have no doubt that Israel has worked on both chemical and biological offensive things for a long time... There's no doubt they've had stuff for years."[19]

Israel and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nobody knows anything. And that's a great deterrent in itself.

 

[Roudy]

Horseshit---everyone knows Israel has nukes. And everyone knows that while Israel demands every other country submit to treaties and disarmament, Israel will not comply with any of it. If Israel is attacked it has sworn to use every weapon available in it's arsenal to protect itself. That would understandably include gas.

Dildo-brain, Israel has been attacked by groups of Arab countries several times, over the last sixty five years. Not a day goes by that some Muslim country doesn't announce it's intention to destroy Israel. And you want it to do what again...disarm? Sure sure.

Dream on.

I didn't say "disarm" fool. NEVER.

Okay whatever you say dildo.

 

[Roudy]

We ask Syria and Iran to disarm but not Israel.
It's that simple.

Nah you no valid argument. Iran is a enemy of the US and Syria used chemical weapons on their own people.

If the Syrian government was actually responsible for using the gas they used it because they were under attack, not only by rebels from within their country but by a multinational force of mercenaries some of who are being armed and trained by America. They used them in defense which is the very same reason that Israel would use theirs. Israel CONSTANTLY is arguing for it's right too defend itself. Don't other countries have that right?

Right to do what? Gas children in their sleep?

And you equivocate THAT, to Israel defending itself from the same savages?

 

[dilloduck]

Dildo-brain, Israel has been attacked by groups of Arab countries several times, over the last sixty five years. Not a day goes by that some Muslim country doesn't announce it's intention to destroy Israel. And you want it to do what again...disarm? Sure sure.

Dream on.

I didn't say "disarm" fool. NEVER.

Okay whatever you say dildo.

Israel has plenty of conventional arms to protect itself. If they need more the US will give them more. It's refusal to play fair on the chemical weapons issue only serves to exacerbate the hostilities. NO ONE should have them or use them but I understand why some countries do. It serves as a "poor mans nuke" to deter any foreign aggressors. Just as Syria has possibly done----once.
How would Israel deal with foreign aggressors ?

 

[dilloduck]

Nah you no valid argument. Iran is a enemy of the US and Syria used chemical weapons on their own people.

If the Syrian government was actually responsible for using the gas they used it because they were under attack, not only by rebels from within their country but by a multinational force of mercenaries some of who are being armed and trained by America. They used them in defense which is the very same reason that Israel would use theirs. Israel CONSTANTLY is arguing for it's right too defend itself. Don't other countries have that right?

Right to do what? Gas children in their sleep?

And you equivocate THAT, to Israel defending itself from the same savages?

The right to defend themselves---how many civilians has Israel killed in dealing with local terrorism? Is bombing a better way to die ?

 

[dilloduck]

In 1993, the U.S. Congress Office of Technology Assessment WMD proliferation assessment recorded Israel as a country generally reported as having undeclared offensive chemical warfare capabilities.[2] Former US deputy assistant secretary of defense responsible for chemical and biological defense, Bill Richardson, said in 1998 "I have no doubt that Israel has worked on both chemical and biological offensive things for a long time... There's no doubt they've had stuff for years."[19]

Israel and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Nobody knows anything. And that's a great deterrent in itself.

in your dreams---the real deterrent is the power of the USA standing right behind Israel.