Kavanaugh/Ford Opinion Threads -- Monday Sept 24th 2018

[bodecea]

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And they are such bizzare allegations it's pathetic

No, drinking games among freshmen in college are not "bizarre."

Prove it happenned, no more hearsay, fucking proof and if you cant provide it stfu

You loons are pathetic

Good...you support a full FBI investigation of these allegations......I wonder why Kavanaugh and the GOP does not.

 

[The Purge]

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Brett Kavanaugh's prospects of being confirmed to the Supreme Court suffered another major setback on Sunday night when a second woman accused him of sexual assault decades ago, and a prominent lawyer took to Twitter claiming a third woman has "credible information" on the high court nominee.

Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee are investigating another allegation of sexual assault against Kavanaugh, according to The New Yorker. Deborah Ramirez, who is 53, told the magazine that when Kavanaugh was a freshman at Yale in the 1983-84 academic school year, she remembers that he “exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party, thrust his penis in her face, and caused her to touch it without her consent as she pushed him away.”

Kavanaugh flatly denied the allegation, calling it a last-minute smear. But his confirmation now appears to be in serious doubt. Most Senate Republicans had vowed to push forward with his nomination after securing a Thursday hearing with Christine Blasey Ford, who went public a week ago with her allegation that Kavanaugh sexually attacked her at a high school party.- Source​

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When it rains, it pours. Poor Brett can't seem to get a break here.
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Oh now there is a third claim...lol you idiot loons are pathetic. Your second claim is already shot to shit because just like Ford's NOBODY CAN REMEMBER ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAPPENING and the third one he was involved im numerous gang rapes is so preposterous you can tell it's mafe up.

Fucking retards you should be ashamed of yourselves....but you won't

Yes...white knighting for men who can't keep their hands off women.

Ever hear of slapping him silly?....He isnt a Muslim or racist Latino!!!(ever notice Latinos NEVER RAPE black girls!)

 

[SassyIrishLass]

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Brett Kavanaugh's prospects of being confirmed to the Supreme Court suffered another major setback on Sunday night when a second woman accused him of sexual assault decades ago, and a prominent lawyer took to Twitter claiming a third woman has "credible information" on the high court nominee.

Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee are investigating another allegation of sexual assault against Kavanaugh, according to The New Yorker. Deborah Ramirez, who is 53, told the magazine that when Kavanaugh was a freshman at Yale in the 1983-84 academic school year, she remembers that he “exposed himself at a drunken dormitory party, thrust his penis in her face, and caused her to touch it without her consent as she pushed him away.”

Kavanaugh flatly denied the allegation, calling it a last-minute smear. But his confirmation now appears to be in serious doubt. Most Senate Republicans had vowed to push forward with his nomination after securing a Thursday hearing with Christine Blasey Ford, who went public a week ago with her allegation that Kavanaugh sexually attacked her at a high school party.- Source​

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When it rains, it pours. Poor Brett can't seem to get a break here.
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Oh now there is a third claim...lol you idiot loons are pathetic. Your second claim is already shot to shit because just like Ford's NOBODY CAN REMEMBER ANYTHING LIKE THAT HAPPENING and the third one he was involved im numerous gang rapes is so preposterous you can tell it's mafe up.

Fucking retards you should be ashamed of yourselves....but you won't

Yes...white knighting for men who can't keep their hands off women.

Get some proof first...hearsay won't do it

Of course you don't care....man hater

 

[Windparadox]

Go investigate it then. That is the exact testimony. BTW, that nobody can back up. Nobody.

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I think you should read more about this story. It has already been stated congress is investigating this.

 

[martybegan]

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And they are such bizzare allegations it's pathetic

No, drinking games among freshmen in college are not "bizarre."

Prove it happenned, no more hearsay, fucking proof and if you cant provide it stfu

You loons are pathetic

Good...you support a full FBI investigation of these allegations......I wonder why Kavanaugh and the GOP does not.

Because the FBI has no jurisdiction over local cases from 30+ years ago....

The FBI had jurisdiction in the Hill/Thomas accusations because they allegedly happened at a federal agency.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

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And they are such bizzare allegations it's pathetic

No, drinking games among freshmen in college are not "bizarre."

Prove it happenned, no more hearsay, fucking proof and if you cant provide it stfu

You loons are pathetic

Good...you support a full FBI investigation of these allegations......I wonder why Kavanaugh and the GOP does not.

Investigate what? She can't seem to remember any details and her witnesses can't either

Hint hint

 

[Faun]

(1). If you have no corroborating evidence or witnesses, STFU.
(2). If you did not mention the matter to a reliable person CONTEMPORANEOUSLY with the event, STFU.
(3). If you hire an attorney in advance of making your accusation, your credibility drops 90%.
(4). If you have ever worn a "pussy hat" in public STFU.
(5). If you are a partisan for the "other side," your credibility drops 75%.
(6). If you were under the influence of any mind or mood altering substance, voluntarily consumed, your credibility drops at least 50%.
(7). There is an absolute "statute of limitations" of ten years.

Now, is there anything to discuss?

I think not.

Let's get on with it.

Wonderful. A list of crutches for assaulters.

1) Make sure you do it in private;
2) Make sure you shame the victim with some hideous degrading act that they won't want to talk about
3) If the victim dares to try to defend herself --- she's toast
4) Dictating how people can dress now? Really fascist? Going with the "she was asking for it" crutch? That still works?
5) She's only a victim if she's got my political football team's letter after her name. Isn't that instructive.
6) Buy her drinks because that somehow relieves you of responsibility
7) why?

Where was his list when Bill Clinton was the target of such baseless accusations?

 

[mudwhistle]

(1). If you have no corroborating evidence or witnesses, STFU.
(2). If you did not mention the matter to a reliable person CONTEMPORANEOUSLY with the event, STFU.
(3). If you hire an attorney in advance of making your accusation, your credibility drops 90%.
(4). If you have ever worn a "pussy hat" in public STFU.
(5). If you are a partisan for the "other side," your credibility drops 75%.
(6). If you were under the influence of any mind or mood altering substance, voluntarily consumed, your credibility drops at least 50%.
(7). There is an absolute "statute of limitations" of ten years.

Now, is there anything to discuss?

I think not.

Let's get on with it.

It is my understanding that Dr Ford has as many as 5 #gofundme accounts totalling $500,000.00. It's clear the motivation here is money. People are trying to cash in.
I could claim the judge groped me when I was in college in 83'. Maybe I could pay a few bills with the cash I might get from making this false accusation.

 

[Penelope]

The Democrats are playing a very dangerous game here. I don't think they realize the pushback they're inviting.

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Dangerous game? Pushback? Pray tell, how?

How dare women resist against men who want to touch them and force themselves on them......that's what we are hearing here.

How dare straight men defend themselves against false allegations.

That’s what we are hearing here.

So its ok for a "straight" man to force himself on a female?

 

[August West]

Was it okay to call Hillary Clinton "crooked Hillary" with no evidence of her crookedness? No indictments, no charges but Mango Mussolini is still doing it.

 

[The Purge]

The Democrats are playing a very dangerous game here. I don't think they realize the pushback they're inviting.

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Dangerous game? Pushback? Pray tell, how?

How dare women resist against men who want to touch them and force themselves on them......that's what we are hearing here.

How dare straight men defend themselves against false allegations.

That’s what we are hearing here.

So its ok for a "straight" man to force himself on a female?

Sound like you'd lie down, spread your legs and NOT PUT UP A FIGHT...,is that right?

 

[Pogo]

Was it okay to call Hillary Clinton "crooked Hillary" with no evidence of her crookedness? No indictments, no charges but Mango Mussolini is still doing it.

"Mango Mussolini" Well done.

 

[midcan5]

The irony of this is the rich have always enjoyed another set of values, it is only the poor and working classes who are judged and incarcerated or die from overdoses. And yet the wealthy play the conservatives, evangelicals and working class like puppets and the puppets cheer as they do at a Trump rally. It is hard to figure out but you see it constantly. Trump is an example of the elite class of boys like Kavanaugh who think they are above the law. But just point over there, blame them and the republican base follows, go figure.

"As Zach Carter argues, the American aristocracy works by automatically bolstering the success and power of people who went to the right schools (most notably Harvard, Yale, and Princeton) and know the right people (generally any of those schools' alumni in positions of power) and by automatically protecting them from consequences from wrongdoing. Its "highest pleasure is the knowledge shared among its members that they live above democratic accountability, that their words and deeds are not constrained by the broader political community the way the words and deeds of mere citizens can be," he writes."

Brett Kavanaugh and the corruption of the American aristocracy

"Humans universally make Us/Them dichotomies along lines of race, ethnicity, gender, language group, religion, age, socioeconomic status, and so on. And it’s not a pretty picture. We do so with remarkable speed and neurobiological efficiency; have complex taxonomies and classifications of ways in which we denigrate Thems; do so with a versatility that ranges from the minutest of microaggression to bloodbaths of savagery; and regularly decide what is inferior about Them based on pure emotion, followed by primitive rationalizations that we mistake for rationality. Pretty depressing."

Overcoming Us vs. Them

And for the reader and thinker:

Invisible Hands: The Making of the Conservative Movement from the New Deal to Reagan by Kim Phillips-Fein
Dark Money: The Hidden History of the Billionaires Behind the Rise of the Radical Right by Jane Mayer
Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right by Arlie Russell Hochschild
I Know Why Poor Whites Chant Trump, Trump, Trump
In the Heart of Trump Country


"The poor object to being governed badly; the rich to being governed at all." G.K. Chesterton

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[The Purge]

Kavanaugh Now Under Assault by a Pack of Rabid Animals
DB Daily Update ^ | David Blackmon


Today’s Campaign Update (Because The Campaign Never Ends)

So it’s not the Clarence Thomas playbook after all, it’s the Roy Moore playbook. – The Campaign Update was wrong 10 days ago when it noted that the Democrats were going to give Brett Kavanaugh the Clarence Thomas treatment, and mount another “high-tech lynching” to gin up their demented voter base. Instead, as Sunday’s events clearly demonstrate, it’s the Roy Moore treatment instead.

Which makes sense when you think about it: The Democrat effort to kill the Clarence Thomas nomination by bringing forward a single accuser spinning tall tales was an abject failure at the end of the day. But the effort to kill Roy Moore and steal the Alabama senate seat he was seeking by digging up multiple women willing to accuse him of bad behavior more than 30 years ago was a resounding success.

The first new accuser came to us late Sunday afternoon via Ronan Farrow and some other fakenewser at The New Yorker, who give us the tall tale that Judge Kavanaugh “exposed himself” at some frat party in 1983. Very predictably, the accuser admits she was drunk, can’t remember key details (sound familiar?) and also admits that she had to “assess my memory” and “consult my lawyer” for no fewer than…wait for it…SIX DAYS before coming forward with her “story.” I swear I don’t make this stuff up – who could?

Even better, one has to read a full 1,000 words into the New Yorker story to find this admission that gives the lie to the entire piece:

So, you call yourself a journalist, you contact by your own admission “several dozen” people who were supposed to have been at the party in question, not one of them can confirm any aspect of the accuser’s story – not even the allegation that Kavanaugh was in fact at the party – and after all that epic failure to confirm your “story”, you just decide to throw it out there and pray nobody bothers to read past the first 999 words. In a sane world, where the concept of “journalistic integrity” was still actually a thing, The New Yorker would fire everyone involved in this story. But hey, it’s terrific clickbait, so they’ll probably all get bonuses.

Oh, but it gets even better. This yarn, spun by a rabid anti-Trump activist who claims to have attended Yale at the same time as Kavanaugh back in the dark ages of disco and punk rock, is so specious and obviously false that, before Farrow decided to run with it, it was turned down by the shameless fake news hacks at NBC, the New York Times and the Washington Post! This obvious hatchet job is a stain on the dead profession of journalism.

But, as the great Ron Popeil would say, “But that’s not all – there’s more!”

Admit it: You just knew the creepy porn lawyer would find some way to get his name involved in all of this, right? C’mon, sure you did.

That’s right, Michael Avenatti, who is trying to turn his representation of porn star Stormy Daniels into a Democrat presidential campaign – because, hey, these idiots voted for both Bill and Hillary Clinton, so why not a creepy porn lawyer, right? – claims he has a client who will blow the lid off of this entire circus, which quite honestly would be sort of a relief at this point.

Avenatti made his announcement on Twitter – because of course he did – claiming that he is “aware of significant evidence of multiple house parties in the Washington, D.C. area during the early 1980s, during which Brett Kavanagh, Mark Judge and others would participate in the targeting of women with alcohol/drugs to allow a ‘train’ of men to subsequently gang rape them.”

So think about this: Other than these rabid anti-Republican activist accusers, literally no one who can actually be shown to have known Judge Kavanaugh has anything bad to say about him at all, not even contemporaries who describe themselves as “life-long friends” of Christine Ford. But, under our brave new #MeToo rules, we as a society are supposed to just believe these accusers and their extremely expensive lawyers who are most certainly being paid by some shadowy activist group funded by George Soros and/or Tom Steyer, for the sole reason that they happen to be women. Oh, but, also under our brave new rules, we aren’t supposed to even call them “women” because that’s all gender-discriminatory or something.

It’s all so confusing. And evil.

Thankfully, we had despicable Dianne Feinstein to jump in and provide the day’s comic relief. The doddering, evil Senator from California first released a copy of a copy of what she claims to be the “unredacted” version of the letter she received from Christine Ford way back in July and then sat on for two months. In this “copy” of the original letter, the first sentence of the 2nd paragraph – which was blacked out in the original version Feinstein provided to the Judiciary Committee – is in a different font than the rest of the letter, and has obviously been altered.

That is the key sentence, which now reads: “Brett Kavanaugh physically and sexually assaulted me during high school in the early 1980s.” There will of course be no word from Sen. Feinstein’s on what the original letter actually said.

To make her day even more hysterically funny, Senator Feinstein next issued a letter in response to the new allegations against Kavanaugh, in which she very predictably calls for the cancellation of the hearing scheduled for this Thursday. The third and final paragraph begins with this sentence: “It is time to set politics aside.”

*sigh*

Dianne Feinstein is a purely evil human being – there is simply no other way to assess the role she has played in this systematic destruction of a good man’s character for purely political gain.

Many – even some Republicans – are urging Kavanaugh to withdraw his nomination in light of these new, obviously false accusations. But that won’t do him any good. What Kavanaugh and everyone else needs to recognize here is that the Democrats are a pack of rabid animals at this point. They smell blood and they are not going to be satisfied with simply keeping Kavanaugh off the Supreme Court. They are out to literally destroy him as a judge and as a person.

These rabid pack animals will not stop until one of two things happens:

Chuck Grassley, Mitch McConnell and the rest of the Senate Republicans grow some huevos and put a stop to this nonsense by confirming this extremely well-qualified candidate to the Supreme Court; or Judge Kavanaugh pulls his nomination, resigns his appellate court seat and disappears entirely from public life. If the latter happens, then there probably will be a huge “Blue Wave” at the ballot box in November, because the GOP base will surely not bother to turn out to vote for a bunch of cowardly weasels on Election Day. If the GOP can’t even confirm a Supreme Court nominee with a Senate majority, then what good are they?

This week determines the election, one way or another. The Democrats know this – that’s what this entire circus has been all about.

But it’s not just about the election – much, much more is at stake here. We are either going to remain a Constitutional republic in which the rules of evidence and presumption of innocence still apply, or we are going to completely give in to this dangerous #MeToo paradigm in which any man’s entire life can be destroyed by the simple fact of an accusation leveled by a person who possesses female genitalia.

Our nation’s entire future is at stake here, and that is not an overstatement. Sadly, there is no way to know if McConnell, Grassley or any other senate Republican has figured this out, or even gives a damn if they have.

That is all.

 

[bodecea]

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And they are such bizzare allegations it's pathetic

No, drinking games among freshmen in college are not "bizarre."

Prove it happenned, no more hearsay, fucking proof and if you cant provide it stfu

You loons are pathetic

Good...you support a full FBI investigation of these allegations......I wonder why Kavanaugh and the GOP does not.

Because the FBI has no jurisdiction over local cases from 30+ years ago....

The FBI had jurisdiction in the Hill/Thomas accusations because they allegedly happened at a federal agency.

Jurisdiction for prosecution....what is wrong with investigating the truth in these matters like they did with Clarence Thomas? What is the GOP afraid of?

 

[hadit]

The Democrats are playing a very dangerous game here. I don't think they realize the pushback they're inviting.

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Dangerous game? Pushback? Pray tell, how?

How dare women resist against men who want to touch them and force themselves on them......that's what we are hearing here.

How dare straight men defend themselves against false allegations.

That’s what we are hearing here.

So its ok for a "straight" man to force himself on a female?

What part of false is hard to understand?

 

[bodecea]

The Democrats are playing a very dangerous game here. I don't think they realize the pushback they're inviting.

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Dangerous game? Pushback? Pray tell, how?

How dare women resist against men who want to touch them and force themselves on them......that's what we are hearing here.

How dare straight men defend themselves against false allegations.

That’s what we are hearing here.

So its ok for a "straight" man to force himself on a female?

Sound like you'd lie down, spread your legs and NOT PUT UP A FIGHT...,is that right?

And there we have it, ladies.....the GOP "position" on women. I'm sure a certain someone will be along soon and white knight him.

 

[bodecea]

The Democrats are playing a very dangerous game here. I don't think they realize the pushback they're inviting.

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Dangerous game? Pushback? Pray tell, how?

How dare women resist against men who want to touch them and force themselves on them......that's what we are hearing here.

How dare straight men defend themselves against false allegations.

That’s what we are hearing here.

By all means...defend yourself....let's have a serious investigation and see where the truth is. Why won't the GOP go for that?

 

[Soupnazi630]

(1). If you have no corroborating evidence or witnesses, STFU.
(2). If you did not mention the matter to a reliable person CONTEMPORANEOUSLY with the event, STFU.
(3). If you hire an attorney in advance of making your accusation, your credibility drops 90%.
(4). If you have ever worn a "pussy hat" in public STFU.
(5). If you are a partisan for the "other side," your credibility drops 75%.
(6). If you were under the influence of any mind or mood altering substance, voluntarily consumed, your credibility drops at least 50%.
(7). There is an absolute "statute of limitations" of ten years.

Now, is there anything to discuss?

I think not.

Let's get on with it.

It is my understanding that Dr Ford has as many as 5 #gofundme accounts totalling $500,000.00. It's clear the motivation here is money. People are trying to cash in.
I could claim the judge groped me when I was in college in 83'. Maybe I could pay a few bills with the cash I might get from making this false accusation.

Real easy search.

I found 3. One for expenses such as travel which has so far received over 150K. One for private security costs which so far has received over 200k. And another one in her name or for her the purpose of which is not clear and has gotten over 40k.

There may be others.

It's not clear how much of this loot she will pocket directly. Maybe some maybe none.

 

[The Purge]

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Dangerous game? Pushback? Pray tell, how?

How dare women resist against men who want to touch them and force themselves on them......that's what we are hearing here.

How dare straight men defend themselves against false allegations.

That’s what we are hearing here.

So its ok for a "straight" man to force himself on a female?

Sound like you'd lie down, spread your legs and NOT PUT UP A FIGHT...,is that right?

And there we have it, ladies.....the GOP "position" on women. I'm sure a certain someone will be along soon and white knight him.

You are PATHETIC, even for a low IQ fascist moron!