Kansas supply-side, trickle-down, voodoo economics fails

[The Derp]

/----- The students pick up more of the tuition thereby reducing the Gubmint costs. It's called pay your own way.

But that means they have to take out loans in order to "pay for it", which means they're burdened with debt when they graduate, which means they delay starting a family, buying a house, etc. So how does that help the economy?

AND if you can't understand how reducing spending will balance out tax cuts there is nothing more I can do to help you understand.

Spending has no effect on the affect tax cuts have economically.

 

[Iceweasel]

/---- As stated earlier -- $1 billion in spending when they were supposed to cut spending.

Why would cuts to spending magically make tax cuts economically beneficial?

Tax cuts can increase revenue, just the opposite of liberal dogma. More activity boost the economy. If you couple that with spending less you have a winning combination. I haven't studied Kansas but I know liberals will not represent it honestly.

 

[JakeStarkey]

/----- Kansas needs to cut spending, Einstein.

They did cut spending...education in particular. Because of the cuts to education, the Kansas State University Board of Regents had to raise tuition.

And furthermore, why would any spending cuts have an effect on the affect of tax cuts?

/----- The students pick up more of the tuition thereby reducing the Gubmint costs. It's called pay your own way.
AND if you can't understand how reducing spending will balance out tax cuts there is nothing more I can do to help you understand.

Education should be a service, particularly in public colleges, never a business.

 

[Iceweasel]

We all know what liberal policies bring and we all know you lefties love to cherry pick data. The fact that you are here vomiting up old tired leftist terms of derision to try to make socialism look better says all we need to know.

What data has been cherry-picked? If trickle-down worked, how come Republicans in Kansas voted to repeal it?

It's been discussed many times already. You are a dishonest retard.

 

[The Derp]

If you spend more than even the tax cuts bring in

Tax cuts don't bring in revenue, they reduce revenue.

See below, KS budget with tax cuts and without tax cuts. SB 30 is the repeal of the tax cuts, notice how the budget produces surpluses when the tax cut repeal is factored in:

 

[The Derp]

Cause they want to spend more money than they bring in...and are cowards when it comes to actually spending only what they have.

How does cutting spending magically make tax cuts produce good economic effects?

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Oh this thread again. New & exciting!

 

[The Derp]

It's been discussed many times already. You are a dishonest retard.

No, it hasn't been discussed because Conservatives don't know what "cherry picking" means. So what data was "cherry picked"? Let's talk about it!

 

[Iceweasel]

If you spend more than even the tax cuts bring in

Tax cuts don't bring in revenue, they reduce revenue.

See below, KS budget with tax cuts and without tax cuts. SB 30 is the repeal of the tax cuts, notice how the budget produces surpluses when the tax cut repeal is factored in:

That's the entire economy of Kansas? LOL

RETARD!

 

[Iceweasel]

It's been discussed many times already. You are a dishonest retard.

No, it hasn't been discussed because Conservatives don't know what "cherry picking" means. So what data was "cherry picked"? Let's talk about it!

You are trolling.

 

[The Derp]

Tax cuts can increase revenue, just the opposite of liberal dogma.

No, dogma is beliving tax cuts increase revenue. See below, KS budget with tax cuts and without (SB 30). So it seems that Kansas doesn't have a spending problem, it has a revenue problem. Namely, that revenues are reduced by tax cuts, creating massive deficits:

More activity boost the economy.

Except that Kansas saw GDP growth below all its neighbors and the national average since the Brownback Tax Cuts started. So that means your theory isn't true, is it?

 

[The Derp]

That's the entire economy of Kansas? LOL

No, below is the Kansas budget. Do you understand what you're looking at?

 

[The Derp]

You are trolling.

How am I trolling? By asking you to defend your argument?

 

[Iceweasel]

You are trolling.

How am I trolling? By asking you to defend your argument?

I have, we have in other threads so that makes you a troll. You are violating the board rules.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

The majority of Kansans live on the eastern side of the state and most of them are within an hour of the borders. I don't know about all the other states but our taxes here in Missouri are lower and as a result Kansas has many residents that complain about high costs of living in Kansas as well as the sales taxes being much higher on the Kansas side.
When I work on that side I make sure I buy EVERYTHING on the Missouri side including gas.
Their taxes are not competitive in any category.

 

[The Derp]

I have, we have in other threads so that makes you a troll. You are violating the board rules.

Saying "cherry picking" is not an argument unless you can prove it. So I ask, can you prove it?

 

[The Derp]

The majority of Kansans live on the eastern side of the state and most of them are within an hour of the borders. I don't know about all the other states but our taxes here in Missouri are lower and as a result Kansas has many residents that complain about high costs of living in Kansas as well as the sales taxes being much higher on the Kansas side.
When I work on that side I make sure I buy EVERYTHING on the Missouri side including gas.
Their taxes are not competitive in any category.

Businesses and workers have been fleeing Kansas because the state is failing. From KSN.com:

More people moving out of Kansas, jobs are leaving too
January 3rd, 2017
WICHITA, Kan. (KSNW) – A new study, released just this week by the United Van Lines, shows thousands of people are leaving Kansas for opportunities elsewhere. The study ranks Kansas number five on the list of the most people moving from states in 2016.​

 

[The Derp]

I have, we have in other threads so that makes you a troll. You are violating the board rules.

BTW - your word is not enough for support of your argument. As you know from the health care thread, I am detail-oriented.

 

[Iceweasel]

I have, we have in other threads so that makes you a troll. You are violating the board rules.

BTW - your word is not enough for support of your argument. As you know from the health care thread, I am detail-oriented.

I made it clear I wasn't interested. How stupid can you be? I'm here calling you a dumb troll. You haven't proven your argument and you started the thread. You think you can simply throw the smears out and people are supposed to spend their day proving you wrong.

I didn't spend much tome on any health care thread, the only detail I saw was you making the same allegations over and over, like this one. And you started yet another thread to get more attention.

 

[The Derp]

I made it clear I wasn't interested. How stupid can you be? I'm here calling you a dumb troll. You haven't proven your argument and you started the thread.

All I had to do was post the KS budget with and without the tax cuts, and you can see very plainly what caused the deficits to appear:

And KS' job growth rate was below the national average and projections:

And was outpaced by all its neighbors:

And the tax cuts didn't bring people into the state:

With population growth lagging all its neighbors:

And not only that, but income didn't grow either:

And lagged all its neighbors in income growth:

You think you can simply throw the smears out and people are supposed to spend their day proving you wrong.

What smears have I thrown out? Facts are not smears.