Just as a reminder of how shitty our healthcare system is

[francoHFW]

Yes as we flood our country with foreigners, and we erase our American history, as democrats Shame American history , as broken families increase and watch more Americans struggle because of democrats these things will happen and increase until we focus on Americans again, and teach the importance of family in schools, Incentivize more people to raise kids in a two person hose hold. Bring back school choice..
you democrats ignore what’s causing the problems.

Here's the problem with "Blame anything for mass shootings but the guns" schtick.

The Europeans are even further along in these things you complain about... and no mass shootings over there.. because they don't have guns.

Well they don't have military style weapons. They have weapons for hunting mainly. Life is crazy in NRA GOP America...

 

[francoHFW]

Bologna. The GOP is the swamp that gives the advantage to Walmart and other giant corporations. Not to mention the internet corporations that are not taxed. Amazon is putting small business out of business. Inequality and upward mobility are horrible and just keep getting worse. The GOP lies its way out of it. You live on an imaginary planet.

Sorry I live in a democrat run city and own a business, democrats have destroyed the ability for small business to expand, to produce, to buy, to hire. Only people doing business in Boston is corporate America, total opposite from when it was run by patriots. Democrats love big businesses it’s why Wall Street Gave millions more
To Hillary.. take your low iq somewhere else

The country is basically been run by the GOP since Reagan. His tax rates, reconciliation so tax cuts and cutting services for the Non rich only needs 51 votes. Only propaganda and Dupes like you make it possible. Corporate media is not much help, is it?

Yea Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Camden, St. Louis, New York San Fran, Oakland, Austin is all run by republicans .. you are beyond dumb.. we will NEVER BE A SOCIALIST COUNTRY,, high taxes kills jobs and small business, regulations kills the ordinary man and woman. Socialism will never Be in America.. deal with it

We will have healthcare for all soon and then we will be a socialist country, barely. Of course you don't know what socialism is. Check Bernie and every other rich country. You are so proud of the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history. Absolute idiocy.

The day we have health care for all is when government mandates slavery, forcing a doctor to see patients with a gun to their head is slavery.

you don’t want health care for all, you kill babies, you hate people that disagree with you look at democrat history from slavery to lynching, to what your party has done to black education, to the murders that has taken place and the ones that will be killled this weekend that you never post a way to stop, because you don’t care. Saying higher taxes will stop the killing is retarted. you want to control people with these policies.. AND YOU NEVER WILL
There is a great chance you will lose the house by big numbers in 2020, and if you do we will rerun the business to health care where it should be in the private market.

you really need to change the channel and have a look around the world. Having health Care is not being controlled. Absolute idiocy, brainwashed functional moron.

 

[Jitss617]

Sorry I live in a democrat run city and own a business, democrats have destroyed the ability for small business to expand, to produce, to buy, to hire. Only people doing business in Boston is corporate America, total opposite from when it was run by patriots. Democrats love big businesses it’s why Wall Street Gave millions more
To Hillary.. take your low iq somewhere else

The country is basically been run by the GOP since Reagan. His tax rates, reconciliation so tax cuts and cutting services for the Non rich only needs 51 votes. Only propaganda and Dupes like you make it possible. Corporate media is not much help, is it?

Yea Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Camden, St. Louis, New York San Fran, Oakland, Austin is all run by republicans .. you are beyond dumb.. we will NEVER BE A SOCIALIST COUNTRY,, high taxes kills jobs and small business, regulations kills the ordinary man and woman. Socialism will never Be in America.. deal with it

We will have healthcare for all soon and then we will be a socialist country, barely. Of course you don't know what socialism is. Check Bernie and every other rich country. You are so proud of the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history. Absolute idiocy.

The day we have health care for all is when government mandates slavery, forcing a doctor to see patients with a gun to their head is slavery.

you don’t want health care for all, you kill babies, you hate people that disagree with you look at democrat history from slavery to lynching, to what your party has done to black education, to the murders that has taken place and the ones that will be killled this weekend that you never post a way to stop, because you don’t care. Saying higher taxes will stop the killing is retarted. you want to control people with these policies.. AND YOU NEVER WILL
There is a great chance you will lose the house by big numbers in 2020, and if you do we will rerun the business to health care where it should be in the private market.

you really need to change the channel and have a look around the world. Having health Care is not being controlled. Absolute idiocy, brainwashed functional moron.

what if doctors strike? What would you do to them? It would kill people you can’t have that.. you would Literally have to put a gun to their heads while they work. You can’t do that,, your hate will end soon. Try something stupid when we end Medicare .. watch what we do to you lol

 

[francoHFW]

The country is basically been run by the GOP since Reagan. His tax rates, reconciliation so tax cuts and cutting services for the Non rich only needs 51 votes. Only propaganda and Dupes like you make it possible. Corporate media is not much help, is it?

Yea Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Camden, St. Louis, New York San Fran, Oakland, Austin is all run by republicans .. you are beyond dumb.. we will NEVER BE A SOCIALIST COUNTRY,, high taxes kills jobs and small business, regulations kills the ordinary man and woman. Socialism will never Be in America.. deal with it

We will have healthcare for all soon and then we will be a socialist country, barely. Of course you don't know what socialism is. Check Bernie and every other rich country. You are so proud of the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history. Absolute idiocy.

The day we have health care for all is when government mandates slavery, forcing a doctor to see patients with a gun to their head is slavery.

you don’t want health care for all, you kill babies, you hate people that disagree with you look at democrat history from slavery to lynching, to what your party has done to black education, to the murders that has taken place and the ones that will be killled this weekend that you never post a way to stop, because you don’t care. Saying higher taxes will stop the killing is retarted. you want to control people with these policies.. AND YOU NEVER WILL
There is a great chance you will lose the house by big numbers in 2020, and if you do we will rerun the business to health care where it should be in the private market.

you really need to change the channel and have a look around the world. Having health Care is not being controlled. Absolute idiocy, brainwashed functional moron.

what if doctors strike? What would you do to them? It would kill people you can’t have that.. you would Literally have to put a gun to their heads while they work. You can’t do that,, your hate will end soon. Try something stupid when we end Medicare .. watch what we do to you lol

^^^^^brainwashed functional babbling idiot

 

[Jitss617]

Yea Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Camden, St. Louis, New York San Fran, Oakland, Austin is all run by republicans .. you are beyond dumb.. we will NEVER BE A SOCIALIST COUNTRY,, high taxes kills jobs and small business, regulations kills the ordinary man and woman. Socialism will never Be in America.. deal with it

We will have healthcare for all soon and then we will be a socialist country, barely. Of course you don't know what socialism is. Check Bernie and every other rich country. You are so proud of the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history. Absolute idiocy.

The day we have health care for all is when government mandates slavery, forcing a doctor to see patients with a gun to their head is slavery.

you don’t want health care for all, you kill babies, you hate people that disagree with you look at democrat history from slavery to lynching, to what your party has done to black education, to the murders that has taken place and the ones that will be killled this weekend that you never post a way to stop, because you don’t care. Saying higher taxes will stop the killing is retarted. you want to control people with these policies.. AND YOU NEVER WILL
There is a great chance you will lose the house by big numbers in 2020, and if you do we will rerun the business to health care where it should be in the private market.

you really need to change the channel and have a look around the world. Having health Care is not being controlled. Absolute idiocy, brainwashed functional moron.

what if doctors strike? What would you do to them? It would kill people you can’t have that.. you would Literally have to put a gun to their heads while they work. You can’t do that,, your hate will end soon. Try something stupid when we end Medicare .. watch what we do to you lol

^^^^^brainwashed functional babbling idiot

So what if doctors go on strike? Can you imagine if it was a loved one of yours getting a life saving surgery and they die? Their would be shooting up hospitals every day.. you are in the wrong country pal

 

[Dragonlady]

I don't care what you call it. The people voted for it. Furthermore, every Republican out there is taking advantage of every government program there is. For all of my adult life, I have worked long hard hours, and helped make a lot of people very rich. I paid 1/4 of my salary to taxes and CPP for close to 50 years.

Damn skippy I'm applying for every dollar I can get in government programs for my retirement. Getting back what I paid in.

If a man steals from you and then buys you a nice dinner with your own money do you thank him for it? I sure as Hell don’t. That is exactly how I see every one of these programs. You lay with the swine you eventually smell like them.

We will agree that no politicians or parties have any moral high ground on this issue. They’re all fat swine who should be slaughtered and their carcasses disposed of like rotten meat.

Taxes are not theft. Taxes are your share of the costs of living in a first world country. If you don’t want to live in a country with an educated work force, a court system to protect property rights, law and order, transportation systems to get your fb goods to market, and a strong military to protect your nation.

Currently, your taxes are insufficient to pay b for any of these things. You are living your best life, expecting your grandchildren to pay for it all.

 

[Dragonlady]

Bologna. The GOP is the swamp that gives the advantage to Walmart and other giant corporations. Not to mention the internet corporations that are not taxed. Amazon is putting small business out of business. Inequality and upward mobility are horrible and just keep getting worse. The GOP lies its way out of it. You live on an imaginary planet.

Sorry I live in a democrat run city and own a business, democrats have destroyed the ability for small business to expand, to produce, to buy, to hire. Only people doing business in Boston is corporate America, total opposite from when it was run by patriots. Democrats love big businesses it’s why Wall Street Gave millions more
To Hillary.. take your low iq somewhere else

The country is basically been run by the GOP since Reagan. His tax rates, reconciliation so tax cuts and cutting services for the Non rich only needs 51 votes. Only propaganda and Dupes like you make it possible. Corporate media is not much help, is it?

Yea Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Camden, St. Louis, New York San Fran, Oakland, Austin is all run by republicans .. you are beyond dumb.. we will NEVER BE A SOCIALIST COUNTRY,, high taxes kills jobs and small business, regulations kills the ordinary man and woman. Socialism will never Be in America.. deal with it

We will have healthcare for all soon and then we will be a socialist country, barely. Of course you don't know what socialism is. Check Bernie and every other rich country. You are so proud of the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history. Absolute idiocy.

The day we have health care for all is when government mandates slavery, forcing a doctor to see patients with a gun to their head is slavery.

you don’t want health care for all, you kill babies, you hate people that disagree with you look at democrat history from slavery to lynching, to what your party has done to black education, to the murders that has taken place and the ones that will be killled this weekend that you never post a way to stop, because you don’t care. Saying higher taxes will stop the killing is retarted. you want to control people with these policies.. AND YOU NEVER WILL
There is a great chance you will lose the house by big numbers in 2020, and if you do we will rerun the business to health care where it should be in the private market.

Why hasn’t anyone put a gun to the heads of any doctors in any other first world country which currently has universal health funded by taxpayer dollars?

This is the DUMBEST argument ever, and it’s coming from the guy who wants an authoritarian dictator in the White House.

 

[francoHFW]

We will have healthcare for all soon and then we will be a socialist country, barely. Of course you don't know what socialism is. Check Bernie and every other rich country. You are so proud of the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history. Absolute idiocy.

The day we have health care for all is when government mandates slavery, forcing a doctor to see patients with a gun to their head is slavery.

you don’t want health care for all, you kill babies, you hate people that disagree with you look at democrat history from slavery to lynching, to what your party has done to black education, to the murders that has taken place and the ones that will be killled this weekend that you never post a way to stop, because you don’t care. Saying higher taxes will stop the killing is retarted. you want to control people with these policies.. AND YOU NEVER WILL
There is a great chance you will lose the house by big numbers in 2020, and if you do we will rerun the business to health care where it should be in the private market.

you really need to change the channel and have a look around the world. Having health Care is not being controlled. Absolute idiocy, brainwashed functional moron.

what if doctors strike? What would you do to them? It would kill people you can’t have that.. you would Literally have to put a gun to their heads while they work. You can’t do that,, your hate will end soon. Try something stupid when we end Medicare .. watch what we do to you lol

^^^^^brainwashed functional babbling idiot

So what if doctors go on strike? Can you imagine if it was a loved one of yours getting a life saving surgery and they die? Their would be shooting up hospitals every day.. you are in the wrong country pal

What the hell are you going on about anyway? LOL

 

[Jitss617]

The day we have health care for all is when government mandates slavery, forcing a doctor to see patients with a gun to their head is slavery.

you don’t want health care for all, you kill babies, you hate people that disagree with you look at democrat history from slavery to lynching, to what your party has done to black education, to the murders that has taken place and the ones that will be killled this weekend that you never post a way to stop, because you don’t care. Saying higher taxes will stop the killing is retarted. you want to control people with these policies.. AND YOU NEVER WILL
There is a great chance you will lose the house by big numbers in 2020, and if you do we will rerun the business to health care where it should be in the private market.

you really need to change the channel and have a look around the world. Having health Care is not being controlled. Absolute idiocy, brainwashed functional moron.

what if doctors strike? What would you do to them? It would kill people you can’t have that.. you would Literally have to put a gun to their heads while they work. You can’t do that,, your hate will end soon. Try something stupid when we end Medicare .. watch what we do to you lol

^^^^^brainwashed functional babbling idiot

So what if doctors go on strike? Can you imagine if it was a loved one of yours getting a life saving surgery and they die? Their would be shooting up hospitals every day.. you are in the wrong country pal

What the hell are you going on about anyway? LOL

I asked you a question.. answer it

 

[Jitss617]

Sorry I live in a democrat run city and own a business, democrats have destroyed the ability for small business to expand, to produce, to buy, to hire. Only people doing business in Boston is corporate America, total opposite from when it was run by patriots. Democrats love big businesses it’s why Wall Street Gave millions more
To Hillary.. take your low iq somewhere else

The country is basically been run by the GOP since Reagan. His tax rates, reconciliation so tax cuts and cutting services for the Non rich only needs 51 votes. Only propaganda and Dupes like you make it possible. Corporate media is not much help, is it?

Yea Boston, Chicago, Detroit, Camden, St. Louis, New York San Fran, Oakland, Austin is all run by republicans .. you are beyond dumb.. we will NEVER BE A SOCIALIST COUNTRY,, high taxes kills jobs and small business, regulations kills the ordinary man and woman. Socialism will never Be in America.. deal with it

We will have healthcare for all soon and then we will be a socialist country, barely. Of course you don't know what socialism is. Check Bernie and every other rich country. You are so proud of the worst inequality and upward mobility in our history. Absolute idiocy.

The day we have health care for all is when government mandates slavery, forcing a doctor to see patients with a gun to their head is slavery.

you don’t want health care for all, you kill babies, you hate people that disagree with you look at democrat history from slavery to lynching, to what your party has done to black education, to the murders that has taken place and the ones that will be killled this weekend that you never post a way to stop, because you don’t care. Saying higher taxes will stop the killing is retarted. you want to control people with these policies.. AND YOU NEVER WILL
There is a great chance you will lose the house by big numbers in 2020, and if you do we will rerun the business to health care where it should be in the private market.

Why hasn’t anyone put a gun to the heads of any doctors in any other first world country which currently has universal health funded by taxpayer dollars?

This is the DUMBEST argument ever, and it’s coming from the guy who wants an authoritarian dictator in the White House.

Norway the size of Vermont? Canada where the rich come to America for health care? In Venezuela direct security people and doctors females are prostitutes.. why do I have to answer questions for you that is clearly historically known? America Can’t continue to be the women with low IQs you have a P brain you cannot compete with men stay home please stop destroying America

 

[Anathema]

Taxes are not theft. Taxes are your share of the costs of living in a first world country. If you don’t want to live in a country with an educated work force, a court system to protect property rights, law and order, transportation systems to get your fb goods to market, and a strong military to protect your nation.

Currently, your taxes are insufficient to pay b for any of these things. You are living your best life, expecting your grandchildren to pay for it all.

Federal taxes most definitely ARE theft when they go to support and pay for programs and materials that are not directly related to the 17 items listed in Article I, Section 8 of the US Constitution.

I’m not sure where you’re from but here in the US, our Federal Government is supposed to be limited in its powers, with the majority of power at the state and local level. Therefore most Federal taxes ARR theft.

 

[Dragonlady]

Taxes are not theft. Taxes are your share of the costs of living in a first world country. If you don’t want to live in a country with an educated work force, a court system to protect property rights, law and order, transportation systems to get your fb goods to market, and a strong military to protect your nation.

Currently, your taxes are insufficient to pay b for any of these things. You are living your best life, expecting your grandchildren to pay for it all.

Federal taxes most definitely ARE theft when they go to support and pay for programs and materials that are not directly related to the 17 items listed in Article I, Section 8 of the US Constitution.

I’m not sure where you’re from but here in the US, our Federal Government is supposed to be limited in its powers, with the majority of power at the state and local level. Therefore most Federal taxes ARR theft.

"Providing for the general welfare" is the article of the Constitution that this falls under. Providing health care through health care is "providing for the general welfare". It prevents plagues, ensures a stable and healthy workforce, and helps lower healthcare costs overall by ensuring that sick people getting help early when they can be most easily and cheaply helped.

You want a large swathe of the population without medical coverage or access to medical care, look at what's happening, ebola plagues, and throughout Africa. AIDS getting lose in the straight population, wiping out parents in villages, leaving the old and the young - those who aren't sexually active.

YOU may not like it, but the rest of your countrymen and women VOTED for it that hospitals could not turn people away.

 

[Anathema]

"Providing for the general welfare" is the article of the Constitution that this falls under. Providing health care through health care is "providing for the general welfare". It prevents plagues, ensures a stable and healthy workforce, and helps lower healthcare costs overall by ensuring that sick people getting help early when they can be most easily and cheaply helped....

No, but I wouldn’t expect a foreigner to be able to read it correctly. You are reading the introductory clause of the Section, which includes the oft misunderstood “common defense” and “general welfare” wording and failing to comprehend thst the 17 specific items listed below that DEFINE what general welfare and common defense mean, and what their limitations are.

If this were not so, and the Founders meant those two phrases to be as loosely defined as you believe, there would have been no need to list the 17 specific items below.

Please note that none of those 17 items include any reference to health or medicine or medical care for ANYONE.

 

[Dragonlady]

"Providing for the general welfare" is the article of the Constitution that this falls under. Providing health care through health care is "providing for the general welfare". It prevents plagues, ensures a stable and healthy workforce, and helps lower healthcare costs overall by ensuring that sick people getting help early when they can be most easily and cheaply helped....

No, but I wouldn’t expect a foreigner to be able to read it correctly. You are reading the introductory clause of the Section, which includes the oft misunderstood “common defense” and “general welfare” wording and failing to comprehend thst the 17 specific items listed below that DEFINE what general welfare and common defense mean, and what their limitations are.

If this were not so, and the Founders meant those two phrases to be as loosely defined as you believe, there would have been no need to list the 17 specific items below.

Please note that none of those 17 items include any reference to health or medicine or medical care for ANYONE.

I'm not confusing ANYTHING. The "general welfare" isn't just the health of the nation, but it's the easiest one to prove. Your opiod addiction problem is a prime example. No checks on the drug companies distributing these drugs, and few on the physicians and pharmacies dispensing them.

Fools like you think that you shouldn't have to participate in helping your fellow citizens in any way, and that it's every man/woman for themselves. Then what is the point of having a nation? A nation is a collection of people with shared values and common goals, who are prepared to WORK TOGETHER to achieve those goals.

Your Constitution starts with the words, "We the people, in order to form a more perfection union". The goal to be united in a purpose. Not even man for himself and screw the rest of you. " . . . in order to form a more perfect union".

Education is another area of "general welfare". An education workforce is a requirement for an industrialized nation to advance. So are roads, communications systems, which the Founders couldn't have envisioned.

 

[rightwinger]

If a man steals from you and then buys you a nice dinner with your own money do you thank him for it? I sure as Hell don’t. That is exactly how I see every one of these programs. You lay with the swine you eventually smell like them.

We will agree that no politicians or parties have any moral high ground on this issue. They’re all fat swine who should be slaughtered and their carcasses disposed of like rotten meat.

Guy, you stupidly think that the poor are stealing from you when the rich are the ones who've exploited your labor. But like most weak creatures, it's easier for you to kick down than punch up.

Conservatives have pushed the concept that the middle class suffers because we do too much to help the poor. Your problem is the Obamaphone Lady

All while they cut off any conversation that we should expect the rich to do more

 

[Anathema]

I'm not confusing ANYTHING. The "general welfare" isn't just the health of the nation, but it's the easiest one to prove...

So then, why did the authors of the Constitution find it necessary to include seventeen specific items beneath that opening clause? Did they have nothing better to do? Bored on a Tuesday night?

The fact that those specific items are there, combined with the Tenth Amendment prove thst the powers of the Federal Government were intended to be LESS than the powers of the States. If it is not so then this nation has never had any value, and deserves the same death of fire and fury as all other nations do.

 

[cnm]

you democrats ignore what’s causing the problems.

Not enough racists?

 

[JustAGuy1]

"Providing for the general welfare" is the article of the Constitution that this falls under. Providing health care through health care is "providing for the general welfare". It prevents plagues, ensures a stable and healthy workforce, and helps lower healthcare costs overall by ensuring that sick people getting help early when they can be most easily and cheaply helped....

No, but I wouldn’t expect a foreigner to be able to read it correctly. You are reading the introductory clause of the Section, which includes the oft misunderstood “common defense” and “general welfare” wording and failing to comprehend thst the 17 specific items listed below that DEFINE what general welfare and common defense mean, and what their limitations are.

If this were not so, and the Founders meant those two phrases to be as loosely defined as you believe, there would have been no need to list the 17 specific items below.

Please note that none of those 17 items include any reference to health or medicine or medical care for ANYONE.

I'm not confusing ANYTHING. The "general welfare" isn't just the health of the nation, but it's the easiest one to prove. Your opiod addiction problem is a prime example. No checks on the drug companies distributing these drugs, and few on the physicians and pharmacies dispensing them.

Fools like you think that you shouldn't have to participate in helping your fellow citizens in any way, and that it's every man/woman for themselves. Then what is the point of having a nation? A nation is a collection of people with shared values and common goals, who are prepared to WORK TOGETHER to achieve those goals.

Your Constitution starts with the words, "We the people, in order to form a more perfection union". The goal to be united in a purpose. Not even man for himself and screw the rest of you. " . . . in order to form a more perfect union".

Education is another area of "general welfare". An education workforce is a requirement for an industrialized nation to advance. So are roads, communications systems, which the Founders couldn't have envisioned.

Sorry Komrade. The "collective" is not responsible for every individual.

 

[Dragonlady]

"Providing for the general welfare" is the article of the Constitution that this falls under. Providing health care through health care is "providing for the general welfare". It prevents plagues, ensures a stable and healthy workforce, and helps lower healthcare costs overall by ensuring that sick people getting help early when they can be most easily and cheaply helped....

No, but I wouldn’t expect a foreigner to be able to read it correctly. You are reading the introductory clause of the Section, which includes the oft misunderstood “common defense” and “general welfare” wording and failing to comprehend thst the 17 specific items listed below that DEFINE what general welfare and common defense mean, and what their limitations are.

If this were not so, and the Founders meant those two phrases to be as loosely defined as you believe, there would have been no need to list the 17 specific items below.

Please note that none of those 17 items include any reference to health or medicine or medical care for ANYONE.

I'm not confusing ANYTHING. The "general welfare" isn't just the health of the nation, but it's the easiest one to prove. Your opiod addiction problem is a prime example. No checks on the drug companies distributing these drugs, and few on the physicians and pharmacies dispensing them.

Fools like you think that you shouldn't have to participate in helping your fellow citizens in any way, and that it's every man/woman for themselves. Then what is the point of having a nation? A nation is a collection of people with shared values and common goals, who are prepared to WORK TOGETHER to achieve those goals.

Your Constitution starts with the words, "We the people, in order to form a more perfection union". The goal to be united in a purpose. Not even man for himself and screw the rest of you. " . . . in order to form a more perfect union".

Education is another area of "general welfare". An education workforce is a requirement for an industrialized nation to advance. So are roads, communications systems, which the Founders couldn't have envisioned.

Sorry Komrade. The "collective" is not responsible for every individual.

You either give the individual the tools he or she will need to help them succeed, or you end up supporting their failure, or cleaning up the mess of opiod abuse, drug addiction, abandoned children, and lifelong dependence. When corporations off-shored the jobs, you didn't even bother offering to retrain people. You just put them on unemployment, food stamps, and Section and expected them to fight over the remaining low income jobs, and blamed them for being lazy.

This is why you have the problems you have. None of this is the government's responsibility, even though they voted for the policies that allowed it. It's nobody's responsibility and nobody should do anything about it, least of all the government.

Nothing defines failure and greed like conservatism.

 

[JustAGuy1]

"Providing for the general welfare" is the article of the Constitution that this falls under. Providing health care through health care is "providing for the general welfare". It prevents plagues, ensures a stable and healthy workforce, and helps lower healthcare costs overall by ensuring that sick people getting help early when they can be most easily and cheaply helped....

No, but I wouldn’t expect a foreigner to be able to read it correctly. You are reading the introductory clause of the Section, which includes the oft misunderstood “common defense” and “general welfare” wording and failing to comprehend thst the 17 specific items listed below that DEFINE what general welfare and common defense mean, and what their limitations are.

If this were not so, and the Founders meant those two phrases to be as loosely defined as you believe, there would have been no need to list the 17 specific items below.

Please note that none of those 17 items include any reference to health or medicine or medical care for ANYONE.

I'm not confusing ANYTHING. The "general welfare" isn't just the health of the nation, but it's the easiest one to prove. Your opiod addiction problem is a prime example. No checks on the drug companies distributing these drugs, and few on the physicians and pharmacies dispensing them.

Fools like you think that you shouldn't have to participate in helping your fellow citizens in any way, and that it's every man/woman for themselves. Then what is the point of having a nation? A nation is a collection of people with shared values and common goals, who are prepared to WORK TOGETHER to achieve those goals.

Your Constitution starts with the words, "We the people, in order to form a more perfection union". The goal to be united in a purpose. Not even man for himself and screw the rest of you. " . . . in order to form a more perfect union".

Education is another area of "general welfare". An education workforce is a requirement for an industrialized nation to advance. So are roads, communications systems, which the Founders couldn't have envisioned.

Sorry Komrade. The "collective" is not responsible for every individual.

You either give the individual the tools he or she will need to help them succeed, or you end up supporting their failure, or cleaning up the mess of opiod abuse, drug addiction, abandoned children, and lifelong dependence. When corporations off-shored the jobs, you didn't even bother offering to retrain people. You just put them on unemployment, food stamps, and Section and expected them to fight over the remaining low income jobs, and blamed them for being lazy.

This is why you have the problems you have. None of this is the government's responsibility, even though they voted for the policies that allowed it. It's nobody's responsibility and nobody should do anything about it, least of all the government.

Nothing defines failure and greed like conservatism.

LOL, nope. I learned and earned my own way. I have taken care of, fed, clothed and housed my family. If I can do it so can everyone else. Grow pu and take responsibility for your own.
If you can't and you want to make us take care of you bring weapons.