July 1st, 1966 - A Date Which Will Live In Infamy

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    Medicare becomes available on July 1, 1966, and Group Health Cooperative begins accepting older patients.

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    On July 1, 1966, Medicare becomes available following the signing of the Medicare Act into law by President Lyndon B. Johnson. The new law begins a revolution in health care, but its compromises result in a system that institutionalizes fee-for-service care. This in turn will spur chronic increases in health-care costs, since the system, instead of controlling costs, pays physicians' "usual and customary" fees, which inevitably begin rising. Institutions with an incentive to keep down costs like Group Health Cooperative (where service is provided based on advance payments, not fee for service), are at a disadvantage. Nevertheless, Group Health advocated the reform, works to improve it, and begins accepting Medicare patients.
     
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    You right wing pea brains never consider the alternative...

    AND, your "patriotism is never based on AmericANS...

    Right wing solutions...great, if only human beings would just evaporate...

    If ANYBODY supports "death panels" and "pulling the plug on grandma" it you right wing morons...
     
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    And your left wing parasitic brain never consider the consequences of the gubmint entering - WITHOUT CONSTITUTIONAL SUPPORT - the field of health care:

    1- a government which knows no constitututional bounds

    2- the destruction of government as we know it as well as healthcare
     
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    Here's an idea pea brain... when grandma and grandpa reach retirement age, let them work until the coroner carries them out in a body bag...BECAUSE...Without medicare, THAT would be your right wing pea brain outcome...

    And let the young people wait in line for the jobs...

    You right wing assholes are absolutely MINDLESS morons...
     
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    EVERY other nation on that chart? They use higher levels of public sector involvement in their health care provision than the US does.

    So if you don't like cost growth, how about we do what EVERYONE else is doing to contain it far more successfully?

    Nah, crazy idea... we should do the opposite! Right? Turn the whole health insurance apparatus over completely to the private sector while slashing regulations on them... the people who make money in direct proportion to how successfully they avoid providing care to sick people and whose sole motivation is to extract the absolute maximum amount of money from each person they are servicing while they do it. Yeah, that's brilliant. It'll totally work. Costs will plummet!
     
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    Excuse me Vern, see if the Obama administration will provide you with a more accurate chart.
     
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    I'm sorry, did you just actually try to declare that the official economic figures from 30 different nations were all completely inaccurate because you don't like what they say?

    REALLY?

    Wow, you're a special kind of invincibly ignorant aren't you? You could be their mascot or something.

    How about you show me the "real" numbers then? How about that? I wait in breathless anticipation.
     
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    Again, the chart is a COMPILATION OF DATA? WHo the fuck was the compiler and waht was his/her agenda?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
     
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    OMG!!! IS IT REALLY????

    Who compiled all the individual nations reported economic data into one big collection of data, or who compiled the data inside each of the individual nations?

    Inside each nation, it was their governments. And the OECD collected them all together into a single handy database. And their "agenda" was TO COLLECT THE DAMN DATA so all the nations participating could analyze it and make informed economic policy decisions you genius.

    Now, on what grounds exactly are you claiming it's inaccurate? Do you or do you not have the "real" accurate data to present to us? Or are you just refusing to accept that this data is accurate because it says something you don't like?
     
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    Private insurance has had it made for years, Medicare takes care of people over 65, who have the most medical problems, and they get to overcharge younger healthier people.
     

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