Judge says state cannot force delegate to vote for Trump

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Judge rules against state law on bound delegates

A federal judge ruled in favor of a Republican delegate looking to free himself from Virginia laws that bound him to back a specific candidate at next week's convention, a narrow victory for the "Never Drumpf" forces, yet one that has no direct bearing on party rules.

Judge Robert Payne in Virginia's Eastern District Court ruled Monday afternoon that the state cannot punish GOP delegate Beau Correll if he votes for a different candidate on the convention floor. State and party laws had bound him on the first ballot to Donald Drumpf, who won the state’s March 1 primary.

Payne criticized the Virginia law binding delegates under threat of prosecution as a violation of Correll's First Amendment right to free speech and association.

The victory comes just days before the Republican National Convention rules committee is slated to meet in Cleveland, where a group of "Never Drumpf" delegates will push to slash party rules that force delegates to be bound to certain candidates.
 
And it begins...


Judge rules against state law on bound delegates

A federal judge ruled in favor of a Republican delegate looking to free himself from Virginia laws that bound him to back a specific candidate at next week's convention, a narrow victory for the "Never Drumpf" forces, yet one that has no direct bearing on party rules.

Judge Robert Payne in Virginia's Eastern District Court ruled Monday afternoon that the state cannot punish GOP delegate Beau Correll if he votes for a different candidate on the convention floor. State and party laws had bound him on the first ballot to Donald Drumpf, who won the state’s March 1 primary.

Payne criticized the Virginia law binding delegates under threat of prosecution as a violation of Correll's First Amendment right to free speech and association.

The victory comes just days before the Republican National Convention rules committee is slated to meet in Cleveland, where a group of "Never Drumpf" delegates will push to slash party rules that force delegates to be bound to certain candidates.





Sooooo, what you're saying is the Judge has just stated that a small ruling elite can decide who gets to run and the will of the People no longer matters and that voting no longer is necessary. Is that correct?
 
"Payne criticized the Virginia law binding delegates under threat of prosecution as a violation of Correll's First Amendment right to free speech and association."

This also reaffirms the fact that as private entities both the Democratic and Republican Parties are at liberty to nominate whomever they want, that the ‘democratic process’ is not binding on either party, and that the primaries are nothing more than an opportunity for voters to express a preference as to whom the respective nominees should be.

Consequently, all the whining and complaining about what occurred during the primaries – such as in Colorado – are inane and completely devoid of merit.
 
"Payne criticized the Virginia law binding delegates under threat of prosecution as a violation of Correll's First Amendment right to free speech and association."

This also reaffirms the fact that as private entities both the Democratic and Republican Parties are at liberty to nominate whomever they want, that the ‘democratic process’ is not binding on either party, and that the primaries are nothing more than an opportunity for voters to express a preference as to whom the respective nominees should be.

Consequently, all the whining and complaining about what occurred during the primaries – such as in Colorado – are inane and completely devoid of merit.




And further reinforces the fact that the US has been co-opted by a ruling elite that dictates to the American Public who they get to vote for. Next stop is rescinding the vote because.. why bother.
 
IF the GOP dumps Trump based on such a gimmick hand wave, they are toast; they still don't get that he doesn't need them, and they're nothing without him. they are as clueless as the media is re why Trump won the primaries.

What would they do if even a third of the Trump delegates walked out of the Convention in protest if many delegates do indeed change who they were sent to vote for?
 
And it begins...


Judge rules against state law on bound delegates

A federal judge ruled in favor of a Republican delegate looking to free himself from Virginia laws that bound him to back a specific candidate at next week's convention, a narrow victory for the "Never Drumpf" forces, yet one that has no direct bearing on party rules.

Judge Robert Payne in Virginia's Eastern District Court ruled Monday afternoon that the state cannot punish GOP delegate Beau Correll if he votes for a different candidate on the convention floor. State and party laws had bound him on the first ballot to Donald Drumpf, who won the state’s March 1 primary.

Payne criticized the Virginia law binding delegates under threat of prosecution as a violation of Correll's First Amendment right to free speech and association.

The victory comes just days before the Republican National Convention rules committee is slated to meet in Cleveland, where a group of "Never Drumpf" delegates will push to slash party rules that force delegates to be bound to certain candidates.





Sooooo, what you're saying is the Judge has just stated that a small ruling elite can decide who gets to run and the will of the People no longer matters and that voting no longer is necessary. Is that correct?
Is that what I said? Or is that what the judge said?
 
"Payne criticized the Virginia law binding delegates under threat of prosecution as a violation of Correll's First Amendment right to free speech and association."

This also reaffirms the fact that as private entities both the Democratic and Republican Parties are at liberty to nominate whomever they want, that the ‘democratic process’ is not binding on either party, and that the primaries are nothing more than an opportunity for voters to express a preference as to whom the respective nominees should be.

Consequently, all the whining and complaining about what occurred during the primaries – such as in Colorado – are inane and completely devoid of merit.




And further reinforces the fact that the US has been co-opted by a ruling elite that dictates to the American Public who they get to vote for. Next stop is rescinding the vote because.. why bother.
It needs to be decided definitively whether the two major Parties are private organizations that can do whatever they want. If it's decided they are, then new laws need to be passed that overturn that.

Republican Party NOW: We can change the rules, keep the rules from 2012, change the number of delegates needed, etc., because we are a private entity.

Republican Party last summer: We can't stop Trump from running as a Republican. We have no power over that.
 
And it begins...


Judge rules against state law on bound delegates

A federal judge ruled in favor of a Republican delegate looking to free himself from Virginia laws that bound him to back a specific candidate at next week's convention, a narrow victory for the "Never Drumpf" forces, yet one that has no direct bearing on party rules.

Judge Robert Payne in Virginia's Eastern District Court ruled Monday afternoon that the state cannot punish GOP delegate Beau Correll if he votes for a different candidate on the convention floor. State and party laws had bound him on the first ballot to Donald Drumpf, who won the state’s March 1 primary.

Payne criticized the Virginia law binding delegates under threat of prosecution as a violation of Correll's First Amendment right to free speech and association.

The victory comes just days before the Republican National Convention rules committee is slated to meet in Cleveland, where a group of "Never Drumpf" delegates will push to slash party rules that force delegates to be bound to certain candidates.


Sooooo, what you're saying is the Judge has just stated that a small ruling elite can decide who gets to run and the will of the People no longer matters and that voting no longer is necessary. Is that correct?

The will of the rich is NO Republican in the White House.
 
IF the GOP dumps Drumpf based on such a gimmick hand wave, they are toast; they still don't get that he doesn't need them
They are toast anyway. Even Republican voters have rejected the failed ideology of conservatism.

17 candidates. 16 of them espousing conservative ideas, beaten like a rented mule by the anti-conservative.

Conservatism is dead. It's about time.
 
IF the GOP dumps Drumpf based on such a gimmick hand wave, they are toast; they still don't get that he doesn't need them
They are toast anyway. Even Republican voters have rejected the failed ideology of conservatism.

17 candidates. 16 of them espousing conservative ideas, beaten like a rented mule by the anti-conservative.

Conservatism is dead. It's about time.

I don't confuse conservatives with right wingers or libertarians, any more than I confuse Obama Democrats with liberals, so this doesn't really mean anything. They aren't dumping conservatism, they're dumping the GOP leadership, and if real liberals were smart they would be doing the same thing to Hillary, sending a giant middle finger to the DNC. They really don't want her as President, despite the DNC's mythology of her being some sort of 'egalitarian progressive'.
 
This was the correct ruling, of course, but it will have little bearing on the GOP convention and the nominating process.

The issue was between the delegate and Virginia, not between the delegate and the Party.

The delegate is still subject to republican convention rules.
 
And it begins...


Judge rules against state law on bound delegates

A federal judge ruled in favor of a Republican delegate looking to free himself from Virginia laws that bound him to back a specific candidate at next week's convention, a narrow victory for the "Never Drumpf" forces, yet one that has no direct bearing on party rules.

Judge Robert Payne in Virginia's Eastern District Court ruled Monday afternoon that the state cannot punish GOP delegate Beau Correll if he votes for a different candidate on the convention floor. State and party laws had bound him on the first ballot to Donald Drumpf, who won the state’s March 1 primary.

Payne criticized the Virginia law binding delegates under threat of prosecution as a violation of Correll's First Amendment right to free speech and association.

The victory comes just days before the Republican National Convention rules committee is slated to meet in Cleveland, where a group of "Never Drumpf" delegates will push to slash party rules that force delegates to be bound to certain candidates.

Well it's ALWAYS been the case. Okay, people don't change much, but they have in the past.
 
And it begins...


Judge rules against state law on bound delegates

A federal judge ruled in favor of a Republican delegate looking to free himself from Virginia laws that bound him to back a specific candidate at next week's convention, a narrow victory for the "Never Drumpf" forces, yet one that has no direct bearing on party rules.

Judge Robert Payne in Virginia's Eastern District Court ruled Monday afternoon that the state cannot punish GOP delegate Beau Correll if he votes for a different candidate on the convention floor. State and party laws had bound him on the first ballot to Donald Drumpf, who won the state’s March 1 primary.

Payne criticized the Virginia law binding delegates under threat of prosecution as a violation of Correll's First Amendment right to free speech and association.

The victory comes just days before the Republican National Convention rules committee is slated to meet in Cleveland, where a group of "Never Drumpf" delegates will push to slash party rules that force delegates to be bound to certain candidates.


Sooooo, what you're saying is the Judge has just stated that a small ruling elite can decide who gets to run and the will of the People no longer matters and that voting no longer is necessary. Is that correct?

The will of the rich is NO Republican in the White House.





No, the will of the rich is to enslave the middle class and the poor. That's why the rich are trying to disarm everyone.
 
And it begins...


Judge rules against state law on bound delegates

A federal judge ruled in favor of a Republican delegate looking to free himself from Virginia laws that bound him to back a specific candidate at next week's convention, a narrow victory for the "Never Drumpf" forces, yet one that has no direct bearing on party rules.

Judge Robert Payne in Virginia's Eastern District Court ruled Monday afternoon that the state cannot punish GOP delegate Beau Correll if he votes for a different candidate on the convention floor. State and party laws had bound him on the first ballot to Donald Drumpf, who won the state’s March 1 primary.

Payne criticized the Virginia law binding delegates under threat of prosecution as a violation of Correll's First Amendment right to free speech and association.

The victory comes just days before the Republican National Convention rules committee is slated to meet in Cleveland, where a group of "Never Drumpf" delegates will push to slash party rules that force delegates to be bound to certain candidates.





Sooooo, what you're saying is the Judge has just stated that a small ruling elite can decide who gets to run and the will of the People no longer matters and that voting no longer is necessary. Is that correct?
Is that what I said? Or is that what the judge said?




Clearly the judge.
 
IF the GOP dumps Drumpf based on such a gimmick hand wave, they are toast; they still don't get that he doesn't need them
They are toast anyway. Even Republican voters have rejected the failed ideology of conservatism.

17 candidates. 16 of them espousing conservative ideas, beaten like a rented mule by the anti-conservative.

Conservatism is dead. It's about time.

I don't confuse conservatives with right wingers
Did you mean to type Republicans?


or libertarians, any more than I confuse Obama Democrats with liberals, so this doesn't really mean anything. They aren't dumping conservatism, they're dumping the GOP leadership, and if real liberals were smart they would be doing the same thing to Hillary, sending a giant middle finger to the DNC. They really don't want her as President, despite the DNC's mythology of her being some sort of 'egalitarian progressive'.
I'm a Liberal, and while Hillary isn't my first choice (more that I don't want Bill's Centrism influencing policy) I'm fine with her.

The Democratic Party has a lot of good soldiers like Warren, Franken, Schumer, Booker, Amy Klobuchar, Sherrod Brown, Gillibrand, but not a lot of well-known stars to run as POTUS.
 

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