Jesus- Son of God. No trinity! Read first.

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    Jesus did say to his disciples "He is in me, and I am in him".. But at the same time, he also said "He is in you"..

    God did not exist in Jesus as an entity. God exists in all of us as a spiritual presence, not not as an entity, either.

    It is silly to believe in a trinity (God, Jesus and Holy Spirit all being one and the same). It is totally unbiblical.

    It is based on the precept of this one single verse, for some STRANGE reason:

    John 14
    11Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me;

    But this chapter is not finished yet!!! Read on..

    And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you.

    20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you.

    In the bible, the term "Lord" means "the one who rules us"- not God, per se.

    John 21:12
    Jesus said to them, "Come and have breakfast." None of the disciples dared ask him, "Who are you?" They knew it was the Lord

    (Since this verse is after John 14- it follows in logic that the disciples specifically knew that Jesus is not God, only that the is the WAY to God. They called him "Lord" much the same way as the kings of the bible were also called "Lord")

    The honesty from both Jesus and God is astonishing. They both tell the entire truth- who they are, why they are there, etc.. In Jesus' case, God sent him to be the new leader. Therefore, he can say "I am the Lord". He is not saying "I am God". He is saying God sent me. Whatever words are not from me, but are from God.

    Based on everything above, the logic, anyways, It could be likened in the same way, then, that all of the prophets who were inspired by God, or heard him speak, were also messiahs, just because they taught his word... Now that doesn't make sense, either.

    They were also honest in who they were, too. It is only deceived people (and stupid ones, also) who claim that Jesus is God.
     
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    the armchair theologian pukes, vomits out ignorance.
     
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    What specific verses have you read that contradict this? In other words, WHY do you think Jesus is God, beyond whatever some false teacher standing behind a pulpit told you?
     
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    Jesus is not God

    Jesus never claimed to be God.

    He just pointed to God.
     
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    Unitarianism is long-held belief among a minority of Christians, as is the polytheism of certain Christian sects, such as the Mormons. Most Christians, however, believe in the Trinity. I don't believe that will change anytime soon.
     
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    Are you Christian? In any case.. what do you believe?
     
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    I like Jefferson's comment about being a sect of one. Really, I guess, I am antinomian, but I do worship regularly with one particular sect because the liturgy and ritual verily speak to me.
     
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    thats part of your problem moron, you think a verse implies a doctrine. idiot.
     
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    So "doctrine"- literally meaning "that which is taught"- and what was taught by Jesus matters not, HOW???

    Personally attack me again, and it only shows that YOU are the ignorant one. Not I.
     
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    i seriously doubt you would accept anything said to you becasue you think youre right. but the fact is youre just making shit up, and your position cannot be substantiated nor sustained.
     

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