It's worse than we thought...

Adjusted and corrected data is not made up data. I can't believe you posted this. Are you REALLY this stupid?
what else is it? If you have a device that gives a temperature reading, you then don't use this output and supply a made up number, it's made up. It isn't what the output from the device was. It can be nothing more than made up. That is a fact. Sorry crickster, just isn't empirical at that point.
 
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The Pope's visit has sent many deniers over the edge for good.

Sometimes fans of a losing sports team riot out of rage and frustration and disappointment. Deniers are like that now.
It did? prove it. Give us a list of deniers who went to some edge. You can't, but you feel good making things up. It's who you are.
 
Hey, I'm not the one screaming that the Catholic Church is the whore of Babylon. That's one of your pals. Own it.
so you are now catholic? How did you get there? Self proclaimed are we now?
 
Adjusted and corrected data is not made up data. I can't believe you posted this. Are you REALLY this stupid?

Your the one who is really stupid... Infilling, adjustments simply because its not what they wanted or expected... dam fool!

"Overall, from 1880 to the present, approximately 99% of the temperature data in the USHCN homogenized output has been estimated (differs from the original raw data). Approximately 92% of the temperature data in the USHCN TOB output has been estimated. The GHCN adjustment models estimate approximately 92% of the US temperatures, but those estimates do not match either the USHCN TOB or homogenized estimates."

ESTIMATE:
verb (used with object), estimated, estimating.
1.
to form an approximate judgment or opinion regarding the worth,amount, size, weight, etc., of; calculate approximately:
to estimate the cost of a college education.
noun
4.
an approximate judgment or calculation, as of the value, amount, time,size, or weight of something.

MADE-UP
adjective
1.
concocted; falsely fabricated or invented:
a made-up story.
 
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So can ya answer my question CrickHam? If the Earth is in dire danger of going postal with a fever --- why isn't there the small amount of money it would take to IMPROVE the surface reporting stations and fill in these HUGE fabricated data gaps?

Please answer the questions...

Would YOU contribute $20 to a KickStarter project to add 400 stations in Africa??? In order to save the planet?

Twenty years of guessing and "estimating" doesn't sound like an imminent crisis to me.
OR -- Perhaps they LIKE IT that way. After all --- here's the guy in charge of Hadley CRU ----

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Does HE look like he needs 400 more reporting stations in Africa???


:eusa_doh: :eusa_doh: :eusa_doh:

This is no joke --- That picture is of the Chief Estimator at Hadley CRU. This is how the data is fabricated.
 
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No data is fabricated. That's kook talk, which is why everyone laughs at it now.

At this point, the correct moral path (that is, the one that shrinks the denier liars' cult the fastest) is mockery. Deniers still cling to their conspiracy cult because it brings them some kind of weird emotional validation. If we make it so their cult affiliation brings them humiliation instead of the warm fuzzies they crave, they'll abandon their cult. It will sting the deniers briefly, but in the long run, it will be better for them to make a clean break and come back to reality.
 
No data is fabricated. That's kook talk, which is why everyone laughs at it now.

At this point, the correct moral path (that is, the one that shrinks the denier liars' cult the fastest) is mockery. Deniers still cling to their conspiracy cult because it brings them some kind of weird emotional validation. If we make it so their cult affiliation brings them humiliation instead of the warm fuzzies they crave, they'll abandon their cult. It will sting the deniers briefly, but in the long run, it will be better for them to make a clean break and come back to reality.
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Adjusted and corrected data is not made up data. I can't believe you posted this. Are you REALLY this stupid?
what else is it? If you have a device that gives a temperature reading, you then don't use this output and supply a made up number, it's made up. It isn't what the output from the device was. It can be nothing more than made up. That is a fact. Sorry crickster, just isn't empirical at that point.
 
No data is fabricated. That's kook talk, which is why everyone laughs at it now.

At this point, the correct moral path (that is, the one that shrinks the denier liars' cult the fastest) is mockery. Deniers still cling to their conspiracy cult because it brings them some kind of weird emotional validation. If we make it so their cult affiliation brings them humiliation instead of the warm fuzzies they crave, they'll abandon their cult. It will sting the deniers briefly, but in the long run, it will be better for them to make a clean break and come back to reality.

2500 sq miles in Africa with no reporting stations within 100 miles. I thought this was a GLOBAL temperature reading. When I see the area map for Africa from Hadley-CRU -- there are no EMPTY areas in Africa..

How do you figure that's NOT fabricating data?

And why don't you answer the question.. After 20 years --- WHY isn't there substantial improvements in the surface temperature reporting networks???

I thought the Health of Earth was in mortal danger and we don't have 400 more reporting stations in the massive gaps of thermometer coverage?

Too complicated for Phil Jones and CRU??
 
No data is fabricated. That's kook talk, which is why everyone laughs at it now.

At this point, the correct moral path (that is, the one that shrinks the denier liars' cult the fastest) is mockery. Deniers still cling to their conspiracy cult because it brings them some kind of weird emotional validation. If we make it so their cult affiliation brings them humiliation instead of the warm fuzzies they crave, they'll abandon their cult. It will sting the deniers briefly, but in the long run, it will be better for them to make a clean break and come back to reality.

Incorrect: Almost 99% of the data is manufactured or altered. You have no moral high ground as your mythical perceived moral superiority is based on lies.
 
No data is fabricated. That's kook talk, which is why everyone laughs at it now.

At this point, the correct moral path (that is, the one that shrinks the denier liars' cult the fastest) is mockery. Deniers still cling to their conspiracy cult because it brings them some kind of weird emotional validation. If we make it so their cult affiliation brings them humiliation instead of the warm fuzzies they crave, they'll abandon their cult. It will sting the deniers briefly, but in the long run, it will be better for them to make a clean break and come back to reality.

Incorrect: Almost 99% of the data is manufactured or altered. You have no moral high ground as your mythical perceived moral superiority is based on lies.


Can't be that high. But it's high. And the problem is just not coverage. HadleyCRUT does UrbanHeat adjustments -- but to DO THAT -- they require an adjacent urban rural pair with more than 50 years of continuous data. So guess how many of those pairs are available in Africa?? ZERO.. They need better coverage and they need some more ingenuity on the adjustments that we know they are attempting..
 
No data is fabricated. That's kook talk, which is why everyone laughs at it now.

At this point, the correct moral path (that is, the one that shrinks the denier liars' cult the fastest) is mockery. Deniers still cling to their conspiracy cult because it brings them some kind of weird emotional validation. If we make it so their cult affiliation brings them humiliation instead of the warm fuzzies they crave, they'll abandon their cult. It will sting the deniers briefly, but in the long run, it will be better for them to make a clean break and come back to reality.

Incorrect: Almost 99% of the data is manufactured or altered. You have no moral high ground as your mythical perceived moral superiority is based on lies.


Can't be that high. But it's high. And the problem is just not coverage. HadleyCRUT does UrbanHeat adjustments -- but to DO THAT -- they require an adjacent urban rural pair with more than 50 years of continuous data. So guess how many of those pairs are available in Africa?? ZERO.. They need better coverage and they need some more ingenuity on the adjustments that we know they are attempting..
Dr Tim Ball shows how less than 1% of empirical data remains once it enters the matrix... Its is either altered, or changed to meet "expected outcomes". AGW is all premised on BS..Made up BS..

You are correct however in your assumption of needing sparse global land based stations like the US-CRN. IT would either confirm or bury the CAGW hype in very short order.
 
I'm seriously considering a crowd-sourced project to fill in the gaps.. Let them try to ignore the hundreds of new stations we could build..

If Global Warming IS an imminent disaster -- you could easily raise $10 or $15M to fill in the surface measurement gaps.

Notice neither CrickHam or Mammy can answer WHY this hasn't been done..
ANYBODY ????
 
Notice neither FiCTion nor Bulemic Bob address why there are gaps where there are gaps nor show any evidence to support their contentions regarding the motivations for these adjustments nor make any attempt to refute the justifications the dataholders have provided.

You say neither of us "can" answer why this hasn't been done. Neither of us has been asked to do so and neither of us has made any attempt to do so. Thus neither of us has failed any attempts and thus there is zero evidence that we are unable to do so. So, what I notice is that, once again, you do not seem to even desire evidence to support the contentions you choose to make.
 
I'm seriously considering a crowd-sourced project to fill in the gaps.. Let them try to ignore the hundreds of new stations we could build..

If Global Warming IS an imminent disaster -- you could easily raise $10 or $15M to fill in the surface measurement gaps.

Notice neither CrickHam or Mammy can answer WHY this hasn't been done..
ANYBODY ????
Were it even suggested, the Teabaggers in the Congress would go ballistic. However, you are correct, we should be investing ten times that for monitoring of our planet.
 
In fact, Flacaltenn, look at the people here that want to totally defund NOAA, and any other agency that monitors the weather and climate. They would shut down the satellites that monitor the sea ice and snow cover.
 
Notice neither FiCTion nor Bulemic Bob address why there are gaps where there are gaps nor show any evidence to support their contentions regarding the motivations for these adjustments nor make any attempt to refute the justifications the dataholders have provided.

You say neither of us "can" answer why this hasn't been done. Neither of us has been asked to do so and neither of us has made any attempt to do so. Thus neither of us has failed any attempts and thus there is zero evidence that we are unable to do so. So, what I notice is that, once again, you do not seem to even desire evidence to support the contentions you choose to make.
why not? why do you just believe all adjustments are correct? See you make absolutely no sense. you should be asking the same thing Flacaltenn is asking. But you aren't. hmmmmmmmmmm
 
In fact, Flacaltenn, look at the people here that want to totally defund NOAA, and any other agency that monitors the weather and climate. They would shut down the satellites that monitor the sea ice and snow cover.
exactly because they aren't doing what needs to happen from the imminent threat they say we're in. LOL.
 

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