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[saveliberty]

“The administration cannot rewrite its own law to make it more convenient for special interests,” Murphy said. “This is a dangerous precedent and is an affront to the separation of powers. . . Moreover, this program funnels money to insurers — now with money intended for the Treasury — in an attempt to prop up Obamacare.”

A new legal opinion prepared by former GOP White House Counsel C. Boyden Gray for the conservative, free-market Galen Institute, concludes that Slavitt’s Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services is diverting $3.5 billion to insurance companies it was “legally obliged to remit to the Treasury.”

 

[Arianrhod]

“The administration cannot rewrite its own law to make it more convenient for special interests,” Murphy said. “This is a dangerous precedent and is an affront to the separation of powers. . . Moreover, this program funnels money to insurers — now with money intended for the Treasury — in an attempt to prop up Obamacare.”

A new legal opinion prepared by former GOP White House Counsel C. Boyden Gray for the conservative, free-market Galen Institute, concludes that Slavitt’s Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services is diverting $3.5 billion to insurance companies it was “legally obliged to remit to the Treasury.”

Thank you.

But there are as many legal opinions as there are lawyers, so try not to get your hopes up. Q.v. King v Burwell.

 

[saveliberty]

Thank you.

But there are as many legal opinions as there are lawyers, so try not to get your hopes up. Q.v. King v Burwell.

I think this may have better legal ground, as the Supreme Court has already termed these dollars a tax. Since the Treasury receives tax dollars, diverting them to insurers is most likely highly illegal and unconstitutional.

 

[dblack]

Thank you.

But there are as many legal opinions as there are lawyers, so try not to get your hopes up. Q.v. King v Burwell.

I think this may have better legal ground, as the Supreme Court has already termed these dollars a tax. Since the Treasury receives tax dollars, diverting them to insurers is most likely highly illegal and unconstitutional.

Diverting tax dollars to insurers is the point of ACA.

 

[Arianrhod]

Thank you.

But there are as many legal opinions as there are lawyers, so try not to get your hopes up. Q.v. King v Burwell.

I think this may have better legal ground, as the Supreme Court has already termed these dollars a tax. Since the Treasury receives tax dollars, diverting them to insurers is most likely highly illegal and unconstitutional.

Diverting tax dollars to insurers is the point of ACA.

And giving millions more Americans access to health insurance so they can get healthcare is just a side effect.

 

[dblack]

Thank you.

But there are as many legal opinions as there are lawyers, so try not to get your hopes up. Q.v. King v Burwell.

I think this may have better legal ground, as the Supreme Court has already termed these dollars a tax. Since the Treasury receives tax dollars, diverting them to insurers is most likely highly illegal and unconstitutional.

Diverting tax dollars to insurers is the point of ACA.

And giving millions more Americans access to health insurance so they can get healthcare is just a side effect.

Heh... they're not 'giving' a damned thing.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Thank you.

But there are as many legal opinions as there are lawyers, so try not to get your hopes up. Q.v. King v Burwell.

I think this may have better legal ground, as the Supreme Court has already termed these dollars a tax. Since the Treasury receives tax dollars, diverting them to insurers is most likely highly illegal and unconstitutional.

Diverting tax dollars to insurers is the point of ACA.

Bingo !

The co-mingling of the two has gone on for a long long time.

Now, they don't even try (very hard) to hide it.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Thank you.

But there are as many legal opinions as there are lawyers, so try not to get your hopes up. Q.v. King v Burwell.

I think this may have better legal ground, as the Supreme Court has already termed these dollars a tax. Since the Treasury receives tax dollars, diverting them to insurers is most likely highly illegal and unconstitutional.

Diverting tax dollars to insurers is the point of ACA.

And giving millions more Americans access to health insurance so they can get healthcare is just a side effect.

Heh... they're not 'giving' a damned thing.

That's right.

I see AirInHead can't help but keep repeating the fairy tale.

Having access to health insurance they can't use really is a pretty disgusting side effect.

 

[Arianrhod]

Thank you.

But there are as many legal opinions as there are lawyers, so try not to get your hopes up. Q.v. King v Burwell.

I think this may have better legal ground, as the Supreme Court has already termed these dollars a tax. Since the Treasury receives tax dollars, diverting them to insurers is most likely highly illegal and unconstitutional.

Diverting tax dollars to insurers is the point of ACA.

And giving millions more Americans access to health insurance so they can get healthcare is just a side effect.

Heh... they're not 'giving' a damned thing.

Substitute a word that makes you feel safe. What you can't explain away is that people who couldn't get health insurance before can get it now.

And smart people (i.e., not Sunny's friends) can find affordable health insurance, see their doctors, and pay far less than they did prior to the PPACA...no matter how many times you clowns chant your little magical mantras.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Thank you.

But there are as many legal opinions as there are lawyers, so try not to get your hopes up. Q.v. King v Burwell.

I think this may have better legal ground, as the Supreme Court has already termed these dollars a tax. Since the Treasury receives tax dollars, diverting them to insurers is most likely highly illegal and unconstitutional.

Diverting tax dollars to insurers is the point of ACA.

You bet....so things can be "affordable".

It's so funny the side who claims to hate the 1% are doing so much to make sure they stay the 1%.

 

[dblack]

Thank you.

But there are as many legal opinions as there are lawyers, so try not to get your hopes up. Q.v. King v Burwell.

I think this may have better legal ground, as the Supreme Court has already termed these dollars a tax. Since the Treasury receives tax dollars, diverting them to insurers is most likely highly illegal and unconstitutional.

Diverting tax dollars to insurers is the point of ACA.

You bet....so things can be "affordable".

It's so funny the side who claims to hate the 1% are doing so much to make sure they stay the 1%.

Funny in an utterly depressing way, yes.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Thank you.

But there are as many legal opinions as there are lawyers, so try not to get your hopes up. Q.v. King v Burwell.

I think this may have better legal ground, as the Supreme Court has already termed these dollars a tax. Since the Treasury receives tax dollars, diverting them to insurers is most likely highly illegal and unconstitutional.

Diverting tax dollars to insurers is the point of ACA.

You bet....so things can be "affordable".

It's so funny the side who claims to hate the 1% are doing so much to make sure they stay the 1%.

Funny in an utterly depressing way, yes.

Is our resident moron still preaching the idea that Obamacare is anything but a scam ?

 

[Arianrhod]

Thank you.

But there are as many legal opinions as there are lawyers, so try not to get your hopes up. Q.v. King v Burwell.

I think this may have better legal ground, as the Supreme Court has already termed these dollars a tax. Since the Treasury receives tax dollars, diverting them to insurers is most likely highly illegal and unconstitutional.

Diverting tax dollars to insurers is the point of ACA.

You bet....so things can be "affordable".

It's so funny the side who claims to hate the 1% are doing so much to make sure they stay the 1%.

Funny in an utterly depressing way, yes.

Is our resident moron still preaching the idea that Obamacare is anything but a scam ?

Actually, you've changed your narrative from "It's a Kenyan socialistic communistic scam" to "It's a scam to make the insurance companies rich," which is both nuanced and ironic, especially when your side keeps a tally of which insurers move out of which markets and interprets it as "The poor widdle insurance companies are going broke!"

It's fun watching y'all change with the prevailing wind. Even Donnie's run away from his preachment about single-payer a few months ago and has gone back to the standard GOP narrative about a "new plan...maybe someday, sorta."

 

[dblack]

I think this may have better legal ground, as the Supreme Court has already termed these dollars a tax. Since the Treasury receives tax dollars, diverting them to insurers is most likely highly illegal and unconstitutional.

Diverting tax dollars to insurers is the point of ACA.

You bet....so things can be "affordable".

It's so funny the side who claims to hate the 1% are doing so much to make sure they stay the 1%.

Funny in an utterly depressing way, yes.

Is our resident moron still preaching the idea that Obamacare is anything but a scam ?

Actually, you've changed your narrative from "It's a Kenyan socialistic communistic scam" to "It's a scam to make the insurance companies rich," which is both nuanced and ironic, especially when your side keeps a tally of which insurers move out of which markets and interprets it as "The poor widdle insurance companies are going broke!"

It's fun watching y'all change with the prevailing wind. Even Donnie's run away from his preachment about single-payer a few months ago and has gone back to the standard GOP narrative about a "new plan...maybe someday, sorta."

The Republicans won't touch ACA.

 

[Arianrhod]

Diverting tax dollars to insurers is the point of ACA.

You bet....so things can be "affordable".

It's so funny the side who claims to hate the 1% are doing so much to make sure they stay the 1%.

Funny in an utterly depressing way, yes.

Is our resident moron still preaching the idea that Obamacare is anything but a scam ?

Actually, you've changed your narrative from "It's a Kenyan socialistic communistic scam" to "It's a scam to make the insurance companies rich," which is both nuanced and ironic, especially when your side keeps a tally of which insurers move out of which markets and interprets it as "The poor widdle insurance companies are going broke!"

It's fun watching y'all change with the prevailing wind. Even Donnie's run away from his preachment about single-payer a few months ago and has gone back to the standard GOP narrative about a "new plan...maybe someday, sorta."

The Republicans won't touch ACA.

Agreed. But they need to stop cozening their constituents with false promises.

 

[dblack]

You bet....so things can be "affordable".

It's so funny the side who claims to hate the 1% are doing so much to make sure they stay the 1%.

Funny in an utterly depressing way, yes.

Is our resident moron still preaching the idea that Obamacare is anything but a scam ?

Actually, you've changed your narrative from "It's a Kenyan socialistic communistic scam" to "It's a scam to make the insurance companies rich," which is both nuanced and ironic, especially when your side keeps a tally of which insurers move out of which markets and interprets it as "The poor widdle insurance companies are going broke!"

It's fun watching y'all change with the prevailing wind. Even Donnie's run away from his preachment about single-payer a few months ago and has gone back to the standard GOP narrative about a "new plan...maybe someday, sorta."

The Republicans won't touch ACA.

Agreed. But they need to stop cozening their constituents with false promises.

I suppose. But I hope they don't. With Hillary and Trump as the two-party choices, Libertarians could have a very good year.

 

[Arianrhod]

Funny in an utterly depressing way, yes.

Is our resident moron still preaching the idea that Obamacare is anything but a scam ?

Actually, you've changed your narrative from "It's a Kenyan socialistic communistic scam" to "It's a scam to make the insurance companies rich," which is both nuanced and ironic, especially when your side keeps a tally of which insurers move out of which markets and interprets it as "The poor widdle insurance companies are going broke!"

It's fun watching y'all change with the prevailing wind. Even Donnie's run away from his preachment about single-payer a few months ago and has gone back to the standard GOP narrative about a "new plan...maybe someday, sorta."

The Republicans won't touch ACA.

Agreed. But they need to stop cozening their constituents with false promises.

I suppose. But I hope they don't. With Hillary and Trump as the two-party choices, Libertarians could have a very good year.

I understand Gary Johnson is trying to court Sanders supporters and he's vocally disdainful of Trump. He might gain a few more votes than the last time he ran, but he and the Libertarian Party have a long way to go, and he's not all that young anymore, either.

My guess is that the main problem is twofold: (A) not being able to generate enough campaign revenue and (B) a lot of people who call themselves libertarians wussing out and voting Republican.

What's the general feeling among true libertarians about The Donald?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Diverting tax dollars to insurers is the point of ACA.

You bet....so things can be "affordable".

It's so funny the side who claims to hate the 1% are doing so much to make sure they stay the 1%.

Funny in an utterly depressing way, yes.

Is our resident moron still preaching the idea that Obamacare is anything but a scam ?

Actually, you've changed your narrative from "It's a Kenyan socialistic communistic scam" to "It's a scam to make the insurance companies rich," which is both nuanced and ironic, especially when your side keeps a tally of which insurers move out of which markets and interprets it as "The poor widdle insurance companies are going broke!"

It's fun watching y'all change with the prevailing wind. Even Donnie's run away from his preachment about single-payer a few months ago and has gone back to the standard GOP narrative about a "new plan...maybe someday, sorta."

The Republicans won't touch ACA.

Of course not. They enjoy lobbying favors like anyone else.

Companies are getting bloated on the insurance they sell into the regular market.

Obamacare, where they are losing their shirts, is a small part of that.

They like those profits.