It's fascism

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    TODAY'S EDITORIAL
    This is someones opinion, written in an editorial... But..It's something to think about???

    On Thursday, President Bush said this week's foiled plot to blow up airplanes over the Atlantic is part of a "war with Islamic fascists." Immediately, Muslim activists condemned the president's use of the phrase, with one group declaring it "counterproductive to associate Islam or Muslims with fascism." As the newspaper that first put a variant of this term into public circulation in the United States, we'd simply say this: The Muslims who tried to blow up these airplanes are in fact fascists. This might be worrisome to the Council on American-Islamic Relations, whose raison detre is raising the specter of anti-Muslim backlash. But that doesn't make it untrue.
    Fascism is a chauvinistic political philosophy that exalts a group over the individual -- usually a race or nation, but in this case the adherents of a religion. Fascism also espouses centralized autocratic rule by that group in suppression of others. It usually advocates severe economic and social regimentation and the total or near-total subordination of the individual to the political leadership. This accurately describes the philosophies of Hitler, Mussolini, the leaders of Imperial Japan and other fascistic regimes through history. It also describes Thursday's terrorists.
    It very accurately describes the philosophy of al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas and many other stripes of Islamism around the world. All the elements are present. The ideology is chauvinistic, regarding non-Muslims as a lesser breed of expendable or contemptible dhimmis and infidels. It favors autocracy and severe social and economic restrictions, as did the Taliban. It demands the total subordination of the individual to the group -- sometimes manifesting in murderously suicidal deaths like the fiery destruction Britain's would-be bombers sought. This is not mainstream Islam, of course. It is a corruption of the faith.
    The use of the term "Islamic fascism" and its variants is growing, for the simple fact that it reflects the underlying reality of the militants in question. We've been using a close variant of the term since July 20, 2001, when reporter Larry Witham interviewed the German-born Muslim scholar Khalid Duran -- who is sometimes credited with coining the word "Islamofascism" -- in the wake of his mini-Rushdie affair over his book, "An Introduction to Islam for Jews." Mr. Duran told Mr. Witham that Islamism is really "Islamofascism" because it seeks to impose religious orthodoxy on the state and the citizenry. Which is just as true today. The Council on American-Islamic Relations, of course, has had problems with this term and its expositors for some time. Mr. Witham's article quotes CAIR spokesman Ibrahim Hooper as saying that Mr. Duran "is not the right person to write a book about Muslim-Jewish understanding" and "doesn't speak for Muslims."
    Islamofascism speaks for itself. It is a real phenomenon. That makes some people uncomfortable, but the truth is no less real for it.
    http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20060811-090001-2970r.htm
     
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    <blockquote> Fascism is a chauvinistic political philosophy that exalts a group over the individual -- usually a race or nation, but in this case the adherents of a religion. Fascism also espouses centralized autocratic rule by that group in suppression of others. It usually advocates severe economic and social regimentation and the total or near-total subordination of the individual to the political leadership. This accurately describes the philosophies of Hitler, Mussolini, the leaders of Imperial Japan and other fascistic regimes through history.</blockquote>

    It also describes America's christo-fascists. You know, those folks wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross...The ones ignorant, willfully or otherwise, of the meanings of either the US Contitution or the teachings of Christ...The authoritarian, doctrinarian, dictator wannabes hiding behind the Bible.

    I'm not talking about real Christians...just the pharisees and hypocrites.

    <blockquote><b>fas┬Ěcism</b>
    Pronunciation: '<i>fa-"shi-z&m</i> also '<i>fa-"si-</i>
    Function: <i>noun</i>
    Etymology: Italian <i>fascismo</i>, from fascio bundle, fasces, group, from Latin fascis bundle & fasces fasces
    1 <i>often capitalized</i> : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition - Merriam Webster's Online Dictionary</blockquote>
     
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    Today's libs will not stand up to evil

    Charlie Rangel was offended over Pres Bush calling the terrorists Islamofascists


    http://newsbusters.org/node/6927

    Rangel: 'Islamofascist' an Insult - 'You Never Called Hitler a Christian Fascist'
    Posted by Mark Finkelstein on August 11, 2006 - 21:47.
    It doesn't take much to offend liberals' exquisite sensitivities. The latest? Referring to Islamofascists as . . . Islamofascists. Chris Matthews got the ball rolling on this evening's Hardball. But Charlie Rangel upped the ante to the max, managing to impugn Christians and Jews in the bargain. Fortunately, GOP Congressman Dan Lungren had the guts to call Rangel on it.

    Matthews got things started by challenging Lungren: "Would you include Hezbollah in that group [of Islamofascists]? Would you include Hamas, they are they enemies of Israel. Are they also enemies of ours? Are they also fascists because they have a dispute with Israel? Anybody who is against us is a fascist now."

    Rangel sent things to the moon a bit later with this line: "You take Islamic and you call them fascists, you call them radical. You never called Hitler a Christian fascist. This is insulting to an entire religion."

    Lungren wouldn't be intimidated: "No it's not that at all, and that is absolute nonsense to say that."

    Rangel wasn't finished: "We got Christian killers, we got Jewish killers, and we never identify them by religion. What you're doing is demonizing."

    Demonizing, Charlie? What would you call the people who wanted to blow up thousands of innocents civilians over the Atlantic this week?
     
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    could you let me know which America's christo-fascists wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross have been caught blowing up busses, pizza parlours, builidings and airplanes....i seem to have missed thoses events recently
     
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    Ever hear of Tim MacVeigh? Nevertheless you are right they are the lunatic fringe here whereas the Islamofaschitheads may not be the norm in their culture but they border on the mainstream.
     

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