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Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...
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Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...
Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...
Looks like Lakhota is making an ash of himself. Again.
Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...
PLEASE turn your rep back on!
Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...
When it comes to the Constitution there is no such thing as "Compromise" and "Consensus".
Sure there is. Even the original Constitution was built on compromise and consensus.
Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...
There isn't a Constitution right to TobaccoBy Dennis A. Henigan
The American people can overcome the gun lobby, but only if we confront, and expose, three myths that have long dominated the gun debate and given the politicians a ready excuse for inaction.
First, we must not let the opponents of reform get away with the empty bromide that "guns don't kill people, people kill people." Does any rational person really believe that the Sandy Hook killer could have murdered twenty-seven people in minutes with a knife or a baseball bat? Guns enable people to kill, more effectively and efficiently than any other widely available weapon.
Second, we must challenge the idea that no law can prevent violent people from getting guns. This canard is refuted by the experience of every other western industrialized nation. Their violent crime rates are comparable to ours. But their homicide rates are exponentially lower because their strong gun laws make it harder for violent individuals to get guns.
Third, we must not accept the notion that our Constitution condemns us to the continued slaughter of our children. It is true that the Supreme Court has expanded gun rights in recent years; it is equally true that the Court has insisted that the right allows for reasonable restrictions. In his opinion in the Heller Second Amendment case, Justice Scalia listed restrictions on "dangerous and unusual weapons" among the kinds of gun laws that are still "presumptively lawful." Assault weapons that fire scores of rounds without reloading surely are "dangerous and unusual."
The tobacco control movement overcame some equally powerful mythology to fundamentally alter American attitudes toward tobacco products. The tobacco industry's effort to sow confusion and uncertainty about the link between smoking and disease eventually was exposed as a fraud. The entrenched view that smoking was simply a bad habit that individuals can choose to break was destroyed by evidence that the tobacco companies knew that nicotine was powerfully addictive and engineered their cigarettes to ensure that people got hooked and stayed hooked. The assumption that smoking harms only the smoker was contradicted by the overwhelming evidence of the danger of second-hand smoke.
Once these myths were exposed, attitudes changed, policies changed and we started saving countless lives. Since youth smoking peaked in the mid-1990s, smoking rates have fallen by about three-fourths among 8th graders, two-thirds among 10th graders and half among 12th graders. A sea change has occurred on the tobacco issue.
Similarly fundamental change can come to the gun issue as well. The myths about gun control, however, still have a hold on too many of our political leaders and their constituents. We will hear them repeated again and again in the coming weeks of intense debate. Every time we hear them, we must respond and we must persuade.
There is too much at stake to be silent.
More: Dennis A. Henigan: It Was Done on Tobacco. It Can Be Done on Guns
There is one for firearms
Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...
PLEASE turn your rep back on!
He's a chicken shit troll..they post crap and call others here names
He should be reprimanded for it, makes this board look bad
Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...
We will see what the NRA is made of today
Will they compromise to show they are willing to work to develop meaningful legislation or go back to their "never give an inch"?
My guess is they double down on stupid and pretend this is the same country it was a week ago
Since the outset of the Chicago handgun ban, the Chicago murder rate has averaged 17% lower than it was before the law took effect, while the U.S. murder rate has averaged 25% lower.
* Based on survey data from a 2000 study published in the Journal of Quantitative Criminology,[17] U.S. civilians use guns to defend themselves and others from crime at least 989,883 times per year.[18]
* A 1993 nationwide survey of 4,977 households found that over the previous five years, at least 3.5% of households had members who had used a gun "for self-protection or for the protection of property at home, work, or elsewhere." Applied to the U.S. population, this amounts to 1,029,615 such incidents per year. This figure excludes all "military service, police work, or work as a security guard."[19]
* A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.[20]
* A 1982 survey of male felons in 11 state prisons dispersed across the U.S. found:[21]
34% had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"
40% had decided not to commit a crime because they "knew or believed that the victim was carrying a gun"
69% personally knew other criminals who had been "scared off, shot at, wounded, or captured by an armed victim"[22]
Forget all the Ideas, Arguement and Debate.
Lets just ban the damn assult weapons and be done with it.
Forget all the Ideas, Arguement and Debate.
Lets just ban the damn assult weapons and be done with it.
There isn't a Constitution right to Tobacco
There is one for firearms
the Constitution was also created with the intent on making changes to it as we as a society progress (or in some cases, regress) Guns in the 1700s were nowhere near as deadly as they are now
Nobody is saying you cant have guns, just certain ones
Hardcore NRA wingnuts need to be thinking about two words: "Compromise" and "Consensus"...
When it comes to the Constitution there is no such thing as "Compromise" and "Consensus".
Sure there is. Even the original Constitution was built on compromise and consensus.