It Was Done on Tobacco. It Can Be Done on Guns.

[bripat9643]

When it comes to the Constitution there is no such thing as "Compromise" and "Consensus".

Sure there is. Even the original Constitution was built on compromise and consensus.

There are recognized limits on free speech--the first amendment isn't seen as absolute.

Only by boot-licking statist toadies.

 

[Lakhota]

SCOTUS will eventually reinterpret this...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Liberal states won't be allowed to own weapons.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

By Dennis A. Henigan

The American people can overcome the gun lobby, but only if we confront, and expose, three myths that have long dominated the gun debate and given the politicians a ready excuse for inaction.

First, we must not let the opponents of reform get away with the empty bromide that "guns don't kill people, people kill people." Does any rational person really believe that the Sandy Hook killer could have murdered twenty-seven people in minutes with a knife or a baseball bat? Guns enable people to kill, more effectively and efficiently than any other widely available weapon.

Second, we must challenge the idea that no law can prevent violent people from getting guns. This canard is refuted by the experience of every other western industrialized nation. Their violent crime rates are comparable to ours. But their homicide rates are exponentially lower because their strong gun laws make it harder for violent individuals to get guns.

Third, we must not accept the notion that our Constitution condemns us to the continued slaughter of our children. It is true that the Supreme Court has expanded gun rights in recent years; it is equally true that the Court has insisted that the right allows for reasonable restrictions. In his opinion in the Heller Second Amendment case, Justice Scalia listed restrictions on "dangerous and unusual weapons" among the kinds of gun laws that are still "presumptively lawful." Assault weapons that fire scores of rounds without reloading surely are "dangerous and unusual."

The tobacco control movement overcame some equally powerful mythology to fundamentally alter American attitudes toward tobacco products. The tobacco industry's effort to sow confusion and uncertainty about the link between smoking and disease eventually was exposed as a fraud. The entrenched view that smoking was simply a bad habit that individuals can choose to break was destroyed by evidence that the tobacco companies knew that nicotine was powerfully addictive and engineered their cigarettes to ensure that people got hooked and stayed hooked. The assumption that smoking harms only the smoker was contradicted by the overwhelming evidence of the danger of second-hand smoke.

Once these myths were exposed, attitudes changed, policies changed and we started saving countless lives. Since youth smoking peaked in the mid-1990s, smoking rates have fallen by about three-fourths among 8th graders, two-thirds among 10th graders and half among 12th graders. A sea change has occurred on the tobacco issue.

Similarly fundamental change can come to the gun issue as well. The myths about gun control, however, still have a hold on too many of our political leaders and their constituents. We will hear them repeated again and again in the coming weeks of intense debate. Every time we hear them, we must respond and we must persuade.

There is too much at stake to be silent.

More: Dennis A. Henigan: It Was Done on Tobacco. It Can Be Done on Guns

There isn't a Constitution right to Tobacco
There is one for firearms

For a standing militia, not for men who want to have bad-ass toys. And the firearm of choice was a musket, not an Uzi. Read the damn Constitution, and also, numbnuts, the 2nd Amendment, just like the rest of the Constitution, guarantees nothing.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

SCOTUS will eventually reinterpret this...

Yup. Just like they did corporations, which they have decided are now people.

 

[Lakhota]

SCOTUS will eventually reinterpret this...

Yup. Just like they did corporations, which they have decided are now people.

Exactly.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Comrade Lakhota would be the first in line to get his brown shit and jack boots for the Government..

and he claims to be a Indian...they FOUGHT for their freedoms to the death

THEY did....LaKota is the kind of guy who holds the Warriors coats....

 

[hazlnut]

By Dennis A. Henigan

The American people can overcome the gun lobby, but only if we confront, and expose, three myths that have long dominated the gun debate and given the politicians a ready excuse for inaction.

First, we must not let the opponents of reform get away with the empty bromide that "guns don't kill people, people kill people." Does any rational person really believe that the Sandy Hook killer could have murdered twenty-seven people in minutes with a knife or a baseball bat? Guns enable people to kill, more effectively and efficiently than any other widely available weapon.

Second, we must challenge the idea that no law can prevent violent people from getting guns. This canard is refuted by the experience of every other western industrialized nation. Their violent crime rates are comparable to ours. But their homicide rates are exponentially lower because their strong gun laws make it harder for violent individuals to get guns.

Third, we must not accept the notion that our Constitution condemns us to the continued slaughter of our children. It is true that the Supreme Court has expanded gun rights in recent years; it is equally true that the Court has insisted that the right allows for reasonable restrictions. In his opinion in the Heller Second Amendment case, Justice Scalia listed restrictions on "dangerous and unusual weapons" among the kinds of gun laws that are still "presumptively lawful." Assault weapons that fire scores of rounds without reloading surely are "dangerous and unusual."

The tobacco control movement overcame some equally powerful mythology to fundamentally alter American attitudes toward tobacco products. The tobacco industry's effort to sow confusion and uncertainty about the link between smoking and disease eventually was exposed as a fraud. The entrenched view that smoking was simply a bad habit that individuals can choose to break was destroyed by evidence that the tobacco companies knew that nicotine was powerfully addictive and engineered their cigarettes to ensure that people got hooked and stayed hooked. The assumption that smoking harms only the smoker was contradicted by the overwhelming evidence of the danger of second-hand smoke.

Once these myths were exposed, attitudes changed, policies changed and we started saving countless lives. Since youth smoking peaked in the mid-1990s, smoking rates have fallen by about three-fourths among 8th graders, two-thirds among 10th graders and half among 12th graders. A sea change has occurred on the tobacco issue.

Similarly fundamental change can come to the gun issue as well. The myths about gun control, however, still have a hold on too many of our political leaders and their constituents. We will hear them repeated again and again in the coming weeks of intense debate. Every time we hear them, we must respond and we must persuade.

There is too much at stake to be silent.

More: Dennis A. Henigan: It Was Done on Tobacco. It Can Be Done on Guns

We need a new psychological term for the paranoid and angry gun owner. -- Gun-mania. The belief that you must be prepared to overthrow your government and/or defend against a zombie apocalypse.

The really obsessive gun owners on here seem to suffer from mild to severe neurosis that drives their obsession with guns and fear a black man taking them away.

 

[hazlnut]

The Liberal states won't be allowed to own weapons.

Just all the power and authority.

And drone command HQ.

Buh-bye, asshole.

 

[hazlnut]

Sure there is. Even the original Constitution was built on compromise and consensus.

There are recognized limits on free speech--the first amendment isn't seen as absolute.

Only by boot-licking statist toadies.

And SCOTUS.

And reasonable sane adults.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The Liberal states won't be allowed to own weapons.

Just all the power and authority.

And drone command HQ.

Buh-bye, asshole.

LOLz

You and your idiots friends here begging to be subjects will be on the first cattle car out of town

You're such a fucking moron

 

[Harry Dresden]

By Dennis A. Henigan

The American people can overcome the gun lobby, but only if we confront, and expose, three myths that have long dominated the gun debate and given the politicians a ready excuse for inaction.

First, we must not let the opponents of reform get away with the empty bromide that "guns don't kill people, people kill people." Does any rational person really believe that the Sandy Hook killer could have murdered twenty-seven people in minutes with a knife or a baseball bat? Guns enable people to kill, more effectively and efficiently than any other widely available weapon.

Second, we must challenge the idea that no law can prevent violent people from getting guns. This canard is refuted by the experience of every other western industrialized nation. Their violent crime rates are comparable to ours. But their homicide rates are exponentially lower because their strong gun laws make it harder for violent individuals to get guns.

Third, we must not accept the notion that our Constitution condemns us to the continued slaughter of our children. It is true that the Supreme Court has expanded gun rights in recent years; it is equally true that the Court has insisted that the right allows for reasonable restrictions. In his opinion in the Heller Second Amendment case, Justice Scalia listed restrictions on "dangerous and unusual weapons" among the kinds of gun laws that are still "presumptively lawful." Assault weapons that fire scores of rounds without reloading surely are "dangerous and unusual."

The tobacco control movement overcame some equally powerful mythology to fundamentally alter American attitudes toward tobacco products. The tobacco industry's effort to sow confusion and uncertainty about the link between smoking and disease eventually was exposed as a fraud. The entrenched view that smoking was simply a bad habit that individuals can choose to break was destroyed by evidence that the tobacco companies knew that nicotine was powerfully addictive and engineered their cigarettes to ensure that people got hooked and stayed hooked. The assumption that smoking harms only the smoker was contradicted by the overwhelming evidence of the danger of second-hand smoke.

Once these myths were exposed, attitudes changed, policies changed and we started saving countless lives. Since youth smoking peaked in the mid-1990s, smoking rates have fallen by about three-fourths among 8th graders, two-thirds among 10th graders and half among 12th graders. A sea change has occurred on the tobacco issue.

Similarly fundamental change can come to the gun issue as well. The myths about gun control, however, still have a hold on too many of our political leaders and their constituents. We will hear them repeated again and again in the coming weeks of intense debate. Every time we hear them, we must respond and we must persuade.

There is too much at stake to be silent.

More: Dennis A. Henigan: It Was Done on Tobacco. It Can Be Done on Guns

We need a new psychological term for the paranoid and angry gun owner. -- Gun-mania. The belief that you must be prepared to overthrow your government and/or defend against a zombie apocalypse.

The really obsessive gun owners on here seem to suffer from mild to severe neurosis that drives their obsession with guns and fear a black man taking them away.

everything is about race with you assholes.....no wonder you and LaKota jerk each other off.....you both think anything said against the Government is because Obama is Black....people that think like you are pathetic....and its getting fucking old....

 

[bripat9643]

There are recognized limits on free speech--the first amendment isn't seen as absolute.

Only by boot-licking statist toadies.

And SCOTUS.

as I said, by boot-licking statist toadies.

And reasonable sane adults.

I haven't noted any sane adults in here supporting gun control. The gun grabbers all appear to by servile psychotic schizophrenics like you.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

By Dennis A. Henigan

The American people can overcome the gun lobby, but only if we confront, and expose, three myths that have long dominated the gun debate and given the politicians a ready excuse for inaction.

First, we must not let the opponents of reform get away with the empty bromide that "guns don't kill people, people kill people." Does any rational person really believe that the Sandy Hook killer could have murdered twenty-seven people in minutes with a knife or a baseball bat? Guns enable people to kill, more effectively and efficiently than any other widely available weapon.

Second, we must challenge the idea that no law can prevent violent people from getting guns. This canard is refuted by the experience of every other western industrialized nation. Their violent crime rates are comparable to ours. But their homicide rates are exponentially lower because their strong gun laws make it harder for violent individuals to get guns.

Third, we must not accept the notion that our Constitution condemns us to the continued slaughter of our children. It is true that the Supreme Court has expanded gun rights in recent years; it is equally true that the Court has insisted that the right allows for reasonable restrictions. In his opinion in the Heller Second Amendment case, Justice Scalia listed restrictions on "dangerous and unusual weapons" among the kinds of gun laws that are still "presumptively lawful." Assault weapons that fire scores of rounds without reloading surely are "dangerous and unusual."

The tobacco control movement overcame some equally powerful mythology to fundamentally alter American attitudes toward tobacco products. The tobacco industry's effort to sow confusion and uncertainty about the link between smoking and disease eventually was exposed as a fraud. The entrenched view that smoking was simply a bad habit that individuals can choose to break was destroyed by evidence that the tobacco companies knew that nicotine was powerfully addictive and engineered their cigarettes to ensure that people got hooked and stayed hooked. The assumption that smoking harms only the smoker was contradicted by the overwhelming evidence of the danger of second-hand smoke.

Once these myths were exposed, attitudes changed, policies changed and we started saving countless lives. Since youth smoking peaked in the mid-1990s, smoking rates have fallen by about three-fourths among 8th graders, two-thirds among 10th graders and half among 12th graders. A sea change has occurred on the tobacco issue.

Similarly fundamental change can come to the gun issue as well. The myths about gun control, however, still have a hold on too many of our political leaders and their constituents. We will hear them repeated again and again in the coming weeks of intense debate. Every time we hear them, we must respond and we must persuade.

There is too much at stake to be silent.

More: Dennis A. Henigan: It Was Done on Tobacco. It Can Be Done on Guns

We need a new psychological term for the paranoid and angry gun owner. -- Gun-mania. The belief that you must be prepared to overthrow your government and/or defend against a zombie apocalypse.

The really obsessive gun owners on here seem to suffer from mild to severe neurosis that drives their obsession with guns and fear a black man taking them away.

Question
Did Clinton's assault weapons ban stop mass shootings?

 

[Lakhota]

We need to tax guns and ammo. The Constitution allows for that...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

When it comes to the Constitution there is no such thing as "Compromise" and "Consensus".

Sure there is. Even the original Constitution was built on compromise and consensus.

There are recognized limits on free speech--the first amendment isn't seen as absolute.

And the Second amendment does have restriction you cannot have any firearms that are not suitable for militia use.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

We need to tax guns and ammo. The Constitution allows for that...

The federal government cannot tax INTRASTATE COMMERCE

 

[saveliberty]

Hey Reb, what happened to Brunswick? lol

Got any other chew toys you're willing to share?

 

[Lakhota]

We need to tax guns and ammo. The Constitution allows for that...

The federal government cannot tax INTRASTATE COMMERCE

Al Capone may have thought the same thing...

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Hey Reb, what happened to Brunswick? lol

Got any other chew toys you're willing to share?

Who? Sure any gun grabbing liberal take you pick.