RetiredGySgt;6430368
You may want to actually get to know the posters here. Making broad sweeping statements usually results in getting it wrong.
To RetiredGySgt: Written responses tell me more than I want to know. The things learned about a person from their written words is more accurate than learning about them by talking to them face to face because the written word can be analyzed; whereas, the spoken word is usually heard once or twice, and is misinterpreted more often than not. Think about the old parlor game. Whisper something to a person; then have that person whisper it to the next person and so on. By the time the last person in the room gets it there is no resemblance to the original statement. Had you passed a note from person to person everybody would have gotten the same words.
RetiredGySgt;6430368
I am a staunch supporter of the 2nd Amendment. Though I have no problem with fully automatic weapons being registered.
I have my ammo and weapons ready in case a need arises to resist.
To RetiredGySgt: Ready to resist what? For the sake of discussion lets say 25 states secede without the federal governments approval. Lets further say that the US military remains neutral.
In a speech on July 2, 2008 then-Senator Obama called for a civilian national security force:
"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."
Obama speech on civilian security force - YouTube
Husseins para-military force found its way into the healthcare bill renamed the Ready Reserve Corps.
At the same time Hussein & Company work day and night to disarm law-abiding Americans they would use TAX dollars to train and arm a civilian army an army loyal to the Socialist agenda not loyal to the country, and certainly not loyal to the federal government if it begins to move away from collectivism.
NOTE: As we speak Hussein is determined to cripple the military in the budget battle. Republicans should begin by taking the Ready Reserve Corps out of Hillarycare II if they cannot repeal the whole damn thing.
Hussein and Democrats put the Ready Reserve Corps in the healthcare bill well-knowing secession means that National Guard militia units in seceding states would transfer their allegiance from the federal government to their home state. Hussein & Company knew they could not . . . rely on our military. . . to defend the Communist agenda; hence, inserting and disguising a preemptive strike in the healthcare bill before secession became a topic.
A preemptive strike is not as far-fetched as it appears. Years ago, Socialists had to know that violent revolution, or peaceful secession, were inevitable. Planning for either eventuality as the tipping point drew near was logical.
Realistically, a majority of men and women serving in state militias, and in the active armed services for that matter, cannot be relied upon to kill their fellow Americans over peaceful, and constitutional, secession. Now, ask yourself this:
Did Hussein want to achieve HIS national security objectives with a parasite army so they could fight for the Socialist agenda, or fight for the Right of secession, or remain neutral? I think everybody knows the answer.
So are you ready to resist, or assist, Husseins parasite army if they try to stop peaceful secession?
RetiredGySgt;6430368
But claiming a State can freely leave the Union is a lie and a foolish statement. It ignores the law and reality.
To RetiredGySgt: Exactly which law is that? Please do not cite Texas v White. The SCOTUS never decided secession in Texas v. White anymore than it settled presidential eligibility in Plessy v. Ferguson. There is no law prohibiting secession until the Constitution is amended saying just that. If prohibiting secession is so settled amending the Constitution should be a simple matter. Apparently, saying secession is prohibited serves just as well.
And do not confuse High Court decisions like Roe v. Wade with secession. Prohibiting secession takes a Right away from states; whereas, Roe v. Wade supposedly gave a Right to the infanticide crowd.
Your failure to understand how our Government and Country works does not negate the fact what I said is true. It is ILLEGAL for a State to leave the Union. EXCEPT with consent of Congress. Failing consent the State or States leaving would need one of two things to happen to be successful. One would be the US does not put down the insurrection. The second would be to militarily defeat the US.
If States chose to leave the Union I would decide based on their position which to join. I am to old and medically unfit to serve in the military. But I would still help the side I chose.
I believe that unless it is clear case of treason or a major event the military would shatter in a civil war. Some would defect, some would stay loyal to the US Government depending on the orders and plans for said insurrection.
Further I doubt any "civilian" force Obama created would fair any differently. The lazy and the spoiled are not going to join ANY Army. Nor are they going to arm themselves and buy enough ammunition to be a threat.