It Ain't Over 'Til The Fat Man Sings

[edthecynic]

Find for us a single vote Rand Paul has taken for pork-barrel spending. Could it possibly be, as Rand reminded the Governor against whom he's apparently "out of his depth," that Kentucky receives more federal money than New Jersey because it has two military bases stationed within its borders?

WOW! Two whole military bases. NJ has 7!!!!!!!

Air Force Bases


McGuire AFB
New Hanover, New Jersey
Comments (0)

McGuire Air Force Base is located almost 30 km away from Trenton and one of the 24 bases that were directly forced by the US government to merge in order to complete each other. The merge occurred due to the 2005 commission respon...


ARMY BASES


Fort Dix
Burlington, New Jersey
Comments (10)

Fort Dix – also referred to as JB MDL Dix – is located 25 km south of Trenton. It is operated by the US Air Force, under the jurisdiction of USARC (Army Reserve Control). It is one of the few bases throughout the American terr...





Picatinny Arsenal
Morris County, New Jersey
Comments (3)

Picatinny Arsenal covers more than 6400 acres and is located close to Lake Denmark, in New Jersey. It is popular for inventing the famous tactical rail, also referred to as the Picatinny rail. It is a specific bracket that can be ...


COAST GUARD BASES


Loran Support Unit
Wildwood, New Jersey
Comments (1)

Run and operated by the United States Coast Guard, Loran Support Unit is located in Wildwood, New Jersey and under Gary Thomas’s command. The unit is responsible for the LRNS – Long Range Navigation System. There are a few...



Training Center Cape May
Cape May, New Jersey
Comments (0)

Training Center Cape May is the most important training center for all the recruits and aspirants to the United States Coast Guard. The center is obviously operated by the US Coast Guard and commanded by Captain William G. Kelly. ...


Navy Bases


NAES Lakehurst
Lakehurst, New Jersey
Comments (0)

Naval Air Engineering Station Lakehurst is one of the largest military installations and is located in the central part of New Jersey, only 40 kilometers away from Trenton. The base is operated by the United States Navy and has re...



NWS Earle
Colts Neck, New Jersey
Comments (0)

Naval Weapons Stations Earle is a military facility operated by the United States Navy in New Jersey. Its most distinguishing characteristic is the huge pier located in the nearby bay. It is longer than four kilometers. It helps t...

McGuire AFB - 5.364 sq mi
87th Air Base Wing

Fort Dix - 10.389 sq mi
87th Air Base Wing

Picatinny Arsenal - 10 sq mi
Not really a base at all.

Can't find much information regarding the Coast Guard bases to this effect.

NAES Lakehurst - 11.581 sq mi
87th Air Base Wing

NWS Earle - 17.397 sq mi


As opposed to the bases in Kentucky

Fort Campbell - 160.02 sq mi
101st Airborne Division
160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment
5th Special Forces Group
52nd Ordnance Group (EOD)
86th Combat Support Hospital
101st Sustainment Brigade (United States)
716th Military Police Battalion
19th Air Support Operations Squadron
63rd Chemical Company
1000th MP Battalion (CID)
Sabalauski Air Assault School
Blanchfield Army Community Hospital
NCO Academy

Fort Knox - 170.31 sq mi

Not much of a comparison really.

as is typical of the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood, they can find only what they want to find!


Fort Dix Units assigned[edit]

• 108th Air Wing[12]
• Army Support Activity[12]
• Marine Aircraft Group 49[12]
• 72d Field Artillery Brigade[12]
• 99th Regional Support Command[12]
• 2d Brigade, 75th Division[12]
• USCG Atlantic Strike Team[12]
• U.S. Air Force Expeditionary Center[12]
• Military Entrance Processing Station[12]
• NCO Academy[12]
• Navy Operational Support Center[12]
• 174th Infantry Brigade[12]
• Fleet Logistics Squadron (VR-64)[12]

McGuire AFB Units[edit]

The 305th Air Mobility Wing along with the 21st Expeditionary Mobility Task Force, 108th Air Refueling Wing (ANG), 621st Contingency Response Wing, and the 514th Air Mobility Wing (AFRC), has supported every major type of air mobility mission over the past 15 years. The following units are assigned to McGuire AFB:

• 87th Air Base Wing
• 305th Air Mobility Wing

305th Maintenance Group305th Medical Group

• 514th Air Mobility Wing (AFRC)
• 108th Air Refueling Wing (New Jersey ANG)

McGuire the only base in both the Air Mobility Command and the entire U.S. Air Force hosting three AMC-gained flying wings of the Regular Air Force, Air Force Reserve and Air National Guard.
McGuire is also host to:

• United States Air Force Expeditionary Center (USAF EC)—physically located on JB MDL Dix and is a tenant unit of Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst.
  • 621st Contingency Response Wing [1] (CRW)
• 373rd Training Squadron (373 TRS), Detachment 1
• AMC Test and Evaluation Squadron (TES)

McGuire hosts the flying needs of its mission partners on JB MDL. Air Force and civilian AMC-contracted aircraft use McGuire's two runways to facilitate this mission. Many hundreds of thousands of Air Force, Army, Navy, and Marine Corps personnel have left the United States for overseas locations from McGuire AFB.




Lakehurst organizations[edit]

• NAVAIR NAVAIR at NAES Lakehurst specialises in Aircraft Launch and Recovery Equipment (ALRE) and Support Equipment (SE). The Aircraft Platform Interface (API) aims to ensure that fixed and vertical wing aircraft operate safely and effectively from aircraft carriers, air capable ships and expeditionary airfields worldwide.[4]
• Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division[4]
• Center for Naval Educational Training, CNATT[4]
• Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 21 (Navy Reserve)[4]
• Army 1st Brigade Mid-Atlantic Recruiting Battalion (United States Army Recruiting Command)[4]
• Exercise EAGLE FLAG (USAF Expeditionary Center)[4][5]
• New Jersey Army National Guard Aviation Unit[4]
• there are other tenet organisations from Ocean County, the state of New Jersey, United States Air Force, New Jersey Air National Guard, United States Public Health Service and the United States Department of Justice.

 

[Avorysuds]

It's great how desperate the far radical left has become. Guess Obama didn't quite live up to any of his claims, nothing to run off in 2016 so better start calling Republicans racist!

 

[rightwinger]

It's great how desperate the far radical left has become. Guess Obama didn't quite live up to any of his claims, nothing to run off in 2016 so better start calling Republicans racist!

Come 2016....

Exactly what can the Republicans claim they have done for America over the last eight years?

 

[percysunshine]

It could be argued that military expenditures benefit the entire country, not just the state any particular base happens to be in. The same argument could be made for any federal service, be it an air force base in Guam or an FBI office in North Dakota. So subtract out the direct payments to any federal agency or employee before doing the calculation.

Anyone got those numbers? Bueller?...Bueller?

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

WOW! Two whole military bases. NJ has 7!!!!!!!

Air Force Bases


McGuire AFB
New Hanover, New Jersey
Comments (0)

McGuire Air Force Base is located almost 30 km away from Trenton and one of the 24 bases that were directly forced by the US government to merge in order to complete each other. The merge occurred due to the 2005 commission respon...


ARMY BASES


Fort Dix
Burlington, New Jersey
Comments (10)

Fort Dix – also referred to as JB MDL Dix – is located 25 km south of Trenton. It is operated by the US Air Force, under the jurisdiction of USARC (Army Reserve Control). It is one of the few bases throughout the American terr...





Picatinny Arsenal
Morris County, New Jersey
Comments (3)

Picatinny Arsenal covers more than 6400 acres and is located close to Lake Denmark, in New Jersey. It is popular for inventing the famous tactical rail, also referred to as the Picatinny rail. It is a specific bracket that can be ...


COAST GUARD BASES


Loran Support Unit
Wildwood, New Jersey
Comments (1)

Run and operated by the United States Coast Guard, Loran Support Unit is located in Wildwood, New Jersey and under Gary Thomas’s command. The unit is responsible for the LRNS – Long Range Navigation System. There are a few...



Training Center Cape May
Cape May, New Jersey
Comments (0)

Training Center Cape May is the most important training center for all the recruits and aspirants to the United States Coast Guard. The center is obviously operated by the US Coast Guard and commanded by Captain William G. Kelly. ...


Navy Bases


NAES Lakehurst
Lakehurst, New Jersey
Comments (0)

Naval Air Engineering Station Lakehurst is one of the largest military installations and is located in the central part of New Jersey, only 40 kilometers away from Trenton. The base is operated by the United States Navy and has re...



NWS Earle
Colts Neck, New Jersey
Comments (0)

Naval Weapons Stations Earle is a military facility operated by the United States Navy in New Jersey. Its most distinguishing characteristic is the huge pier located in the nearby bay. It is longer than four kilometers. It helps t...

McGuire AFB - 5.364 sq mi
87th Air Base Wing

Fort Dix - 10.389 sq mi
87th Air Base Wing

Picatinny Arsenal - 10 sq mi
Not really a base at all.

Can't find much information regarding the Coast Guard bases to this effect.

NAES Lakehurst - 11.581 sq mi
87th Air Base Wing

NWS Earle - 17.397 sq mi


As opposed to the bases in Kentucky

Fort Campbell - 160.02 sq mi
101st Airborne Division
160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment
5th Special Forces Group
52nd Ordnance Group (EOD)
86th Combat Support Hospital
101st Sustainment Brigade (United States)
716th Military Police Battalion
19th Air Support Operations Squadron
63rd Chemical Company
1000th MP Battalion (CID)
Sabalauski Air Assault School
Blanchfield Army Community Hospital
NCO Academy

Fort Knox - 170.31 sq mi

Not much of a comparison really.

as is typical of the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood, they can find only what they want to find!


Fort Dix Units assigned[edit]

• 108th Air Wing[12]
• Army Support Activity[12]
• Marine Aircraft Group 49[12]
• 72d Field Artillery Brigade[12]
• 99th Regional Support Command[12]
• 2d Brigade, 75th Division[12]
• USCG Atlantic Strike Team[12]
• U.S. Air Force Expeditionary Center[12]
• Military Entrance Processing Station[12]
• NCO Academy[12]
• Navy Operational Support Center[12]
• 174th Infantry Brigade[12]
• Fleet Logistics Squadron (VR-64)[12]

McGuire AFB Units[edit]

The 305th Air Mobility Wing along with the 21st Expeditionary Mobility Task Force, 108th Air Refueling Wing (ANG), 621st Contingency Response Wing, and the 514th Air Mobility Wing (AFRC), has supported every major type of air mobility mission over the past 15 years. The following units are assigned to McGuire AFB:

• 87th Air Base Wing
• 305th Air Mobility Wing

305th Maintenance Group305th Medical Group

• 514th Air Mobility Wing (AFRC)
• 108th Air Refueling Wing (New Jersey ANG)

McGuire the only base in both the Air Mobility Command and the entire U.S. Air Force hosting three AMC-gained flying wings of the Regular Air Force, Air Force Reserve and Air National Guard.
McGuire is also host to:

• United States Air Force Expeditionary Center (USAF EC)—physically located on JB MDL Dix and is a tenant unit of Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst.
  • 621st Contingency Response Wing [1] (CRW)
• 373rd Training Squadron (373 TRS), Detachment 1
• AMC Test and Evaluation Squadron (TES)

McGuire hosts the flying needs of its mission partners on JB MDL. Air Force and civilian AMC-contracted aircraft use McGuire's two runways to facilitate this mission. Many hundreds of thousands of Air Force, Army, Navy, and Marine Corps personnel have left the United States for overseas locations from McGuire AFB.




Lakehurst organizations[edit]

• NAVAIR NAVAIR at NAES Lakehurst specialises in Aircraft Launch and Recovery Equipment (ALRE) and Support Equipment (SE). The Aircraft Platform Interface (API) aims to ensure that fixed and vertical wing aircraft operate safely and effectively from aircraft carriers, air capable ships and expeditionary airfields worldwide.[4]
• Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division[4]
• Center for Naval Educational Training, CNATT[4]
• Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 21 (Navy Reserve)[4]
• Army 1st Brigade Mid-Atlantic Recruiting Battalion (United States Army Recruiting Command)[4]
• Exercise EAGLE FLAG (USAF Expeditionary Center)[4][5]
• New Jersey Army National Guard Aviation Unit[4]
• there are other tenet organisations from Ocean County, the state of New Jersey, United States Air Force, New Jersey Air National Guard, United States Public Health Service and the United States Department of Justice.

The what Brotherhood? Anyways, I see nothing here that shows that any of the bases you listed from NJ are in any way comparable whatsoever to the two massive bases in Kentucky.

 

[edthecynic]

NJ gets 61 cents for every federal dollar they send in and that little **** Rand Paul accuses them of gimme, gimme, gimme when they have a natural disaster

Fucking Paul even voted against Sandy disaster relief

And the little pussy denies doing it!!!

 

[edthecynic]

McGuire AFB - 5.364 sq mi
87th Air Base Wing

Fort Dix - 10.389 sq mi
87th Air Base Wing

Picatinny Arsenal - 10 sq mi
Not really a base at all.

Can't find much information regarding the Coast Guard bases to this effect.

NAES Lakehurst - 11.581 sq mi
87th Air Base Wing

NWS Earle - 17.397 sq mi


As opposed to the bases in Kentucky

Fort Campbell - 160.02 sq mi
101st Airborne Division
160th Special Operations Aviation Regiment
5th Special Forces Group
52nd Ordnance Group (EOD)
86th Combat Support Hospital
101st Sustainment Brigade (United States)
716th Military Police Battalion
19th Air Support Operations Squadron
63rd Chemical Company
1000th MP Battalion (CID)
Sabalauski Air Assault School
Blanchfield Army Community Hospital
NCO Academy

Fort Knox - 170.31 sq mi

Not much of a comparison really.

as is typical of the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood, they can find only what they want to find!


Fort Dix Units assigned[edit]

• 108th Air Wing[12]
• Army Support Activity[12]
• Marine Aircraft Group 49[12]
• 72d Field Artillery Brigade[12]
• 99th Regional Support Command[12]
• 2d Brigade, 75th Division[12]
• USCG Atlantic Strike Team[12]
• U.S. Air Force Expeditionary Center[12]
• Military Entrance Processing Station[12]
• NCO Academy[12]
• Navy Operational Support Center[12]
• 174th Infantry Brigade[12]
• Fleet Logistics Squadron (VR-64)[12]

McGuire AFB Units[edit]

The 305th Air Mobility Wing along with the 21st Expeditionary Mobility Task Force, 108th Air Refueling Wing (ANG), 621st Contingency Response Wing, and the 514th Air Mobility Wing (AFRC), has supported every major type of air mobility mission over the past 15 years. The following units are assigned to McGuire AFB:

• 87th Air Base Wing
• 305th Air Mobility Wing

305th Maintenance Group305th Medical Group

• 514th Air Mobility Wing (AFRC)
• 108th Air Refueling Wing (New Jersey ANG)

McGuire the only base in both the Air Mobility Command and the entire U.S. Air Force hosting three AMC-gained flying wings of the Regular Air Force, Air Force Reserve and Air National Guard.
McGuire is also host to:

• United States Air Force Expeditionary Center (USAF EC)—physically located on JB MDL Dix and is a tenant unit of Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst.
  • 621st Contingency Response Wing [1] (CRW)
• 373rd Training Squadron (373 TRS), Detachment 1
• AMC Test and Evaluation Squadron (TES)

McGuire hosts the flying needs of its mission partners on JB MDL. Air Force and civilian AMC-contracted aircraft use McGuire's two runways to facilitate this mission. Many hundreds of thousands of Air Force, Army, Navy, and Marine Corps personnel have left the United States for overseas locations from McGuire AFB.




Lakehurst organizations[edit]

• NAVAIR NAVAIR at NAES Lakehurst specialises in Aircraft Launch and Recovery Equipment (ALRE) and Support Equipment (SE). The Aircraft Platform Interface (API) aims to ensure that fixed and vertical wing aircraft operate safely and effectively from aircraft carriers, air capable ships and expeditionary airfields worldwide.[4]
• Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division[4]
• Center for Naval Educational Training, CNATT[4]
• Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 21 (Navy Reserve)[4]
• Army 1st Brigade Mid-Atlantic Recruiting Battalion (United States Army Recruiting Command)[4]
• Exercise EAGLE FLAG (USAF Expeditionary Center)[4][5]
• New Jersey Army National Guard Aviation Unit[4]
• there are other tenet organisations from Ocean County, the state of New Jersey, United States Air Force, New Jersey Air National Guard, United States Public Health Service and the United States Department of Justice.

The what Brotherhood? Anyways, I see nothing here that shows that any of the bases you listed from NJ are in any way comparable whatsoever to the two massive bases in Kentucky.

Of course you wouldn't!

 

[Kevin_Kennedy]

as is typical of the CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood, they can find only what they want to find!


Fort Dix Units assigned[edit]

• 108th Air Wing[12]
• Army Support Activity[12]
• Marine Aircraft Group 49[12]
• 72d Field Artillery Brigade[12]
• 99th Regional Support Command[12]
• 2d Brigade, 75th Division[12]
• USCG Atlantic Strike Team[12]
• U.S. Air Force Expeditionary Center[12]
• Military Entrance Processing Station[12]
• NCO Academy[12]
• Navy Operational Support Center[12]
• 174th Infantry Brigade[12]
• Fleet Logistics Squadron (VR-64)[12]

McGuire AFB Units[edit]

The 305th Air Mobility Wing along with the 21st Expeditionary Mobility Task Force, 108th Air Refueling Wing (ANG), 621st Contingency Response Wing, and the 514th Air Mobility Wing (AFRC), has supported every major type of air mobility mission over the past 15 years. The following units are assigned to McGuire AFB:

• 87th Air Base Wing
• 305th Air Mobility Wing

305th Maintenance Group305th Medical Group

• 514th Air Mobility Wing (AFRC)
• 108th Air Refueling Wing (New Jersey ANG)

McGuire the only base in both the Air Mobility Command and the entire U.S. Air Force hosting three AMC-gained flying wings of the Regular Air Force, Air Force Reserve and Air National Guard.
McGuire is also host to:

• United States Air Force Expeditionary Center (USAF EC)—physically located on JB MDL Dix and is a tenant unit of Joint Base McGuire-Dix-Lakehurst.
  • 621st Contingency Response Wing [1] (CRW)
• 373rd Training Squadron (373 TRS), Detachment 1
• AMC Test and Evaluation Squadron (TES)

McGuire hosts the flying needs of its mission partners on JB MDL. Air Force and civilian AMC-contracted aircraft use McGuire's two runways to facilitate this mission. Many hundreds of thousands of Air Force, Army, Navy, and Marine Corps personnel have left the United States for overseas locations from McGuire AFB.




Lakehurst organizations[edit]

• NAVAIR NAVAIR at NAES Lakehurst specialises in Aircraft Launch and Recovery Equipment (ALRE) and Support Equipment (SE). The Aircraft Platform Interface (API) aims to ensure that fixed and vertical wing aircraft operate safely and effectively from aircraft carriers, air capable ships and expeditionary airfields worldwide.[4]
• Naval Air Warfare Center Aircraft Division[4]
• Center for Naval Educational Training, CNATT[4]
• Naval Mobile Construction Battalion 21 (Navy Reserve)[4]
• Army 1st Brigade Mid-Atlantic Recruiting Battalion (United States Army Recruiting Command)[4]
• Exercise EAGLE FLAG (USAF Expeditionary Center)[4][5]
• New Jersey Army National Guard Aviation Unit[4]
• there are other tenet organisations from Ocean County, the state of New Jersey, United States Air Force, New Jersey Air National Guard, United States Public Health Service and the United States Department of Justice.

The what Brotherhood? Anyways, I see nothing here that shows that any of the bases you listed from NJ are in any way comparable whatsoever to the two massive bases in Kentucky.

Of course you wouldn't!

Oh boy, you got me.

 

[Missourian]

Population of New Jersey 8.8 million.

Population of Kentucky 4.3 million.

Area of New Jersey...8,729 square miles.

Area of Kentucky...40,409 square miles.

So, let us rational people do some math...Kentucky has half the population, but almost 5 times the area.

Christie is an idiot.

Federal aid is not dispensed by the square mile

If it was, Texas would not be a donor state. Neither would California

You mean Texas, the second most populated state.

And California, the MOST populous state in the union.

It's not ALL about square miles or lower population or lack of mega cities, but they are all variables.

I which I could cut and paste the chart from this article, but I can't...so you'll have to go look.

Why Do Some States Feast on Federal Spending, Not Others? | Tax Foundation

 

[edthecynic]

The what Brotherhood? Anyways, I see nothing here that shows that any of the bases you listed from NJ are in any way comparable whatsoever to the two massive bases in Kentucky.

Of course you wouldn't!

Oh boy, you got me.

I sure did! You could only SEE one base, the 87th Air Base Wing for Fort Dix, McGuire, and Lakehurst combined and 13 bases for Fort Campbell, yet I saw 13 bases for Fort Dix alone not including the 87th Air Base Wing.

The CON$ervoFascist Brotherhood sees only what they want to see.

 

[edthecynic]

Population of New Jersey 8.8 million.

Population of Kentucky 4.3 million.

Area of New Jersey...8,729 square miles.

Area of Kentucky...40,409 square miles.

So, let us rational people do some math...Kentucky has half the population, but almost 5 times the area.

Christie is an idiot.

Federal aid is not dispensed by the square mile

If it was, Texas would not be a donor state. Neither would California

You mean Texas, the second most populated state.

And California, the MOST populous state in the union.

It's not ALL about square miles or lower population or lack of mega cities, but they are all variables.

I which I could cut and paste the chart from this article, but I can't...so you'll have to go look.

Why Do Some States Feast on Federal Spending, Not Others? | Tax Foundation

From your link:

"blue states" tend to be high-income areas that pay the vast majority of federal taxes. Some 84 percent of federal individual income taxes—which account for over 40 percent of federal revenue—are paid by the those in the top 25 percent of the income distribution. The majority of these taxpayers live in wealthy, urban, politically "blue" areas like New York, California, and Massachusetts.

 

[rdean]

Chris Christie vs. Rand Paul

Former U.S. Attorney to New Jersey and Governor of New Jersey (and member of the Genovese Family)
vs.
The Eye Doctor from the Kentucky Holler

Rand Paul is out of his depth.

This is going to be fun.

Christie said, "I find it interesting that Senator Paul is accusing us of having a gimme, gimme, gimme attitude toward federal spending when in fact New Jersey is a donor state, we get 61 cents back on every dollar we send to Washington. And interestingly Kentucky gets 1.51 on every dollar they sent to Washington...".

Ouch.

Bunk.

New Jersey has a huge population and is the size of a postage stamp.

Kentucky is huge with a tiny population.

But you still have to build federal roads and bridges.

This stupid "donor state" crap has been debunked a thousand times.

That Christie chose to run with this left wing talking point tells all anyone needs to know about him.

Dole, McCain, Romney, Chistie...another loser liberal in republican clothing.

The stupid donor crap has NOT been debunked a thousand times. Right wingers say that about everything they don't want to believe. Like evolution. Trickle down not working. Iraq not having WMD's. Just tonight someone said Zimmerman had his nose broken. Santorum never said education is for snobs. All these things were just said tonight.

 

[rdean]

Federal aid is not dispensed by the square mile

If it was, Texas would not be a donor state. Neither would California

You mean Texas, the second most populated state.

And California, the MOST populous state in the union.

It's not ALL about square miles or lower population or lack of mega cities, but they are all variables.

I which I could cut and paste the chart from this article, but I can't...so you'll have to go look.

Why Do Some States Feast on Federal Spending, Not Others? | Tax Foundation

From your link:

"blue states" tend to be high-income areas that pay the vast majority of federal taxes. Some 84 percent of federal individual income taxes—which account for over 40 percent of federal revenue—are paid by the those in the top 25 percent of the income distribution. The majority of these taxpayers live in wealthy, urban, politically "blue" areas like New York, California, and Massachusetts.

California gives twice as much as the next largest donor. Which is Texas. Republicans screaming "cut taxes" would leave most Republicans in a terrible bind. But they have this weird Fox induced idea that it's Republicans who support the country and are paying all the bills. When it turns out, Republicans ARE the bills.

 

[Missourian]

Ft Dix is all but gone. The 2005 BRAC folded it into McGuire, along with Lakehurst.

Poputaion of Ft Dix:


Army Tenants : 3,034
Other Military Tenants: 425
Civilians: 3,557


(link)



Population of McGuire AFB:


As of the 2010 United States Census, the McGuire Air Force Base CDP had a total population of 3,710,[4] of which 737 were in New Hanover Township and 2,973 were in North Hanover Township.[11]


​

Population of Ft Campbell:

Ft Campbell is the 5th largest military population in the Army, and the 7th largest in the entire Department of defense. (link)


Population Active duty 30,438
Civilian 4,000


​

Population of Ft Knox:

Fort Knox has a population of over 40,000 Soldiers, family members and civilian employees. (link)


​

Plus 15,000 plus trainees that cycle through EACH POST per year.


Dix/McGuire isn't a pissant in a flash flood compared to that.

 

[Missourian]

Chris Christie vs. Rand Paul

Former U.S. Attorney to New Jersey and Governor of New Jersey (and member of the Genovese Family)
vs.
The Eye Doctor from the Kentucky Holler

Rand Paul is out of his depth.

This is going to be fun.

Christie said, "I find it interesting that Senator Paul is accusing us of having a gimme, gimme, gimme attitude toward federal spending when in fact New Jersey is a donor state, we get 61 cents back on every dollar we send to Washington. And interestingly Kentucky gets 1.51 on every dollar they sent to Washington...".

Ouch.

Bunk.

New Jersey has a huge population and is the size of a postage stamp.

Kentucky is huge with a tiny population.

But you still have to build federal roads and bridges.

This stupid "donor state" crap has been debunked a thousand times.

That Christie chose to run with this left wing talking point tells all anyone needs to know about him.

Dole, McCain, Romney, Chistie...another loser liberal in republican clothing.

The stupid donor crap has NOT been debunked a thousand times. Right wingers say that about everything they don't want to believe. Like evolution. Trickle down not working. Iraq not having WMD's. Just tonight someone said Zimmerman had his nose broken. Santorum never said education is for snobs. All these things were just said tonight.

Rdean, your credibility is less than zero.

Let the adults talk.

 

[Missourian]

Federal aid is not dispensed by the square mile

If it was, Texas would not be a donor state. Neither would California

You mean Texas, the second most populated state.

And California, the MOST populous state in the union.

It's not ALL about square miles or lower population or lack of mega cities, but they are all variables.

I which I could cut and paste the chart from this article, but I can't...so you'll have to go look.

Why Do Some States Feast on Federal Spending, Not Others? | Tax Foundation

From your link:

"blue states" tend to be high-income areas that pay the vast majority of federal taxes. Some 84 percent of federal individual income taxes—which account for over 40 percent of federal revenue—are paid by the those in the top 25 percent of the income distribution. The majority of these taxpayers live in wealthy, urban, politically "blue" areas like New York, California, and Massachusetts.

And I'm not debating that.

Higher cost of living means you have to make more money, which mean you have to pay more taxes.

A $400,000 home in New Jersey, is a $50,000 to $80,000 home in Kentucky.

$4.50 gas in New Jersey is $3.25 in Kentucky.

Cost of living lowest to highest...Kentucky is the 3rd lowest.

New Jersey is the 3rd HIGHEST. (link)

As the link said, because of the progressive tax system, the more you make, the more you pay...even though a New Jersey dollar doesn't go nearly as far as a Kentucky dollar.

Get it now?

My Missouri 2000 square foot 3 bedroom 2 bath was $35,000.

My pickup was $700.

My wife's Buick Park Avenue was $2200.

A Missourian making $40,000 a year lives better that a New Jersian making three times as much, and paying taxes on three times as much.

There are a lot of variables that go into this "Donor" equation.

Texas is a red state, and a donor state.

New Mexico is the biggest recipient state, and it is a blue state.

 

[LoneLaugher]

Bunk.

New Jersey has a huge population and is the size of a postage stamp.

Kentucky is huge with a tiny population.

But you still have to build federal roads and bridges.

This stupid "donor state" crap has been debunked a thousand times.

That Christie chose to run with this left wing talking point tells all anyone needs to know about him.

Dole, McCain, Romney, Chistie...another loser liberal in republican clothing.

Do you think Kentucky spends more on roads and bridges than NJ does?

Absolutely.

Federal roads...Interstates and US Highways...that is what federal money pays for.

Here's the National Network for Jersey : National Network - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And here's the National Network for Kentucky: National Network - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Map: National Network - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

So, you tell me.


P.S. Tollways, toll bridges, thruways, toll tunnels DO NOT COUNT...they are not federally funded!

Where are the dollar figures?

 

[rdean]

You mean Texas, the second most populated state.

And California, the MOST populous state in the union.

It's not ALL about square miles or lower population or lack of mega cities, but they are all variables.

I which I could cut and paste the chart from this article, but I can't...so you'll have to go look.

Why Do Some States Feast on Federal Spending, Not Others? | Tax Foundation

From your link:

"blue states" tend to be high-income areas that pay the vast majority of federal taxes. Some 84 percent of federal individual income taxes—which account for over 40 percent of federal revenue—are paid by the those in the top 25 percent of the income distribution. The majority of these taxpayers live in wealthy, urban, politically "blue" areas like New York, California, and Massachusetts.

And I'm not debating that.

Higher cost of living means you have to make more money, which mean you have to pay more taxes.

A $400,000 home in New Jersey, is a $50,000 to $80,000 home in Kentucky.

$4.50 gas in New Jersey is $3.25 in Kentucky.

Cost of living lowest to highest...Kentucky is the 3rd lowest.

New Jersey is the 3rd HIGHEST. (link)

As the link said, because of the progressive tax system, the more you make, the more you pay...even though a New Jersey dollar doesn't go nearly as far as a Kentucky dollar.

Get it now?

My Missouri 2000 square foot 3 bedroom 2 bath was $35,000.

My pickup was $700.

My wife's Buick Park Avenue was $2200.

A Missourian making $40,000 a year lives better that a New Jersian making three times as much, and paying taxes on three times as much.

There are a lot of variables that go into this "Donor" equation.

Texas is a red state, and a donor state.

New Mexico is the biggest recipient state, and it is a blue state.

Texas is right on the border getting back 94 cents for every dollar it gives.

Illinois, where I live, gets back 75 cents for every dollar it gives.

And since New Mexico voted for Bush, it hasn't been Blue for very long. Maybe they are finally getting tired of terrible GOP policies. We can't seem to get Republicans to name a single policy that's good for the majority of voters. Can you think of one?

 

[Crackerjaxon]

Chris Christie vs. Rand Paul

Former U.S. Attorney to New Jersey and Governor of New Jersey (and member of the Genovese Family)
vs.
The Eye Doctor from the Kentucky Holler

Rand Paul is out of his depth.

This is going to be fun.

Christie said, "I find it interesting that Senator Paul is accusing us of having a gimme, gimme, gimme attitude toward federal spending when in fact New Jersey is a donor state, we get 61 cents back on every dollar we send to Washington. And interestingly Kentucky gets 1.51 on every dollar they sent to Washington...".

Ouch.

No, you're out of your depth on this forum. Twenty to a dime you don't know what a "holler" is.

It's just as well, though. I doubt you'd survive if you ventured into one.

 

[Darkwind]

Chris Christie vs. Rand Paul

Former U.S. Attorney to New Jersey and Governor of New Jersey (and member of the Genovese Family)
vs.
The Eye Doctor from the Kentucky Holler

Rand Paul is out of his depth.

This is going to be fun.

Christie said, "I find it interesting that Senator Paul is accusing us of having a gimme, gimme, gimme attitude toward federal spending when in fact New Jersey is a donor state, we get 61 cents back on every dollar we send to Washington. And interestingly Kentucky gets 1.51 on every dollar they sent to Washington...".

Ouch.

Bunk.

New Jersey has a huge population and is the size of a postage stamp.

Kentucky is huge with a tiny population.

But you still have to build federal roads and bridges.

This stupid "donor state" crap has been debunked a thousand times.

That Christie chose to run with this left wing talking point tells all anyone needs to know about him.

Dole, McCain, Romney, Chistie...another loser liberal in republican clothing.

How is New Jersey being (and the term is so phoney its amazing that the left use it with a straight face) a donor state germane to Christies whining about needing more money from the Feds? He DOES have a 'gimme, gimme, gimme' attitude and now attacks someone else for having that pointed out to him?

Perhaps you all will do a little research. The money that Kentucky gets from the feds, I think someone said it was 1.51 back for every dollar put in; how much of it is asked for by the State of Kentucky? The federal government mandates a lot of things and then sends money (for some of it) to cover the cost. These mandates are are forced upon the States by law.

So, Kentucky gets more back than it sends, and New Jersey gets less back than it sends.

Here is an idea. How about the Feds stop illicitly spreading the money they receive from the citizens and spend it ON ONLY THOSE PROGRAMS MANDATED BY THE CONSTITUTION!

Let the States fend for themselves and enact policy that favors them, their economies, and their needs.

That is how you get good governance. When you have a free tit hanging around, you never get weened off of it.