"Israeli policies don't affect anti-Semitism"

[Victory67]

EU parliament chief: Israeli policies have no impact on European anti-Semitism | JPost | Israel News

This is what the European Union Parliament Chief said at the Knesset.

This man is either as ignorant as a dead tree stump or is working his hardest to make Israelis happy.

Of course Isreali policies increase or decrease anti-Semitism.

Just as American policies increase or decrease hatred of the USA.

Its absurd to believe otherwise.

When Israel does the right thing and treats the territories and the Palestinians fairly, Israelis and by extension Jews are judged by this.

When Israel expands settlements, steals more Arab land, kills more Palestinian children, strips more Palestinians of their Permanent Residency status in East Jerusalem, Israelis and by extension Jews are judged by this.

Its only common sense.

 

[toastman]

EU parliament chief: Israeli policies have no impact on European anti-Semitism | JPost | Israel News

This is what the European Union Parliament Chief said at the Knesset.

This man is either as ignorant as a dead tree stump or is working his hardest to make Israelis happy.

Of course Isreali policies increase or decrease anti-Semitism.

Just as American policies increase or decrease hatred of the USA.

Its absurd to believe otherwise.

When Israel does the right thing and treats the territories and the Palestinians fairly, Israelis and by extension Jews are judged by this.

When Israel expands settlements, steals more Arab land, kills more Palestinian children, strips more Palestinians of their Permanent Residency status in East Jerusalem, Israelis and by extension Jews are judged by this.

Its only common sense.

So you think it's fair to display hatred towards Jews in Europe because of Israel's policies?

 

[Victory67]

So you think it's fair to display hatred towards Jews in Europe because of Israel's policies?

Fair? No.

Logical? No.

Reality of the world we live in? Yes.

Israel needs to understand that their behavior reflects on all Israelis and by extension all Jews.

 

[Coyote]

EU parliament chief: Israeli policies have no impact on European anti-Semitism | JPost | Israel News

This is what the European Union Parliament Chief said at the Knesset.

This man is either as ignorant as a dead tree stump or is working his hardest to make Israelis happy.

Of course Isreali policies increase or decrease anti-Semitism.

Just as American policies increase or decrease hatred of the USA.

Its absurd to believe otherwise.

When Israel does the right thing and treats the territories and the Palestinians fairly, Israelis and by extension Jews are judged by this.

When Israel expands settlements, steals more Arab land, kills more Palestinian children, strips more Palestinians of their Permanent Residency status in East Jerusalem, Israelis and by extension Jews are judged by this.

Its only common sense.

So you think it's fair to display hatred towards Jews in Europe because of Israel's policies?

Totally not.

Israel is a soveriegn nation, and Jews around the world are no more responsible for it's actions and policies than Muslims around the world are for policies in Muslim dominant countries or Christians around the world are for policies are in Christian dominant countries.

The author of the article makes a good point:

]Anti-Semitism has been a constant in Europe, and that hasn't changed irrespective of what goes on in the Middle East, the president of the European Parliament, who is in Israel to deliver a speech to the Knesset later Wednesday, told The Jerusalem Post.

"Anti-Semitism always existed in Europe," said EU Parliament chief Martin Schulz. "I thought that after World War II we were stronger in fighting such demons in politics. This is a deception. Nothing disappeared, all the prejudice is there."

I think we saw that in the Norway anti-semitism thread where there was plenty of historic evidence to support this, unfortunately.

But there are two parts to this:

Do Israel's policies have an effect on anti-semitism? Not really, other than to provide fuel and justification for an already existing attitude that is directed towards jews in general.

Is criticism of Israel's policies anti-semitism? There is legitimate criticism of Israel's policies and anger at Israel that is directed at Israel specifically, and is fueled by some of it's policies and actions, not by anti-semitism.

The distinction can get blurred because there can be an overlap (Israel's actions provide a mask of "legitimacy" to existing anti-semitic attitudes) - but it's there and it's important to make that distinction.

 

[Victory67]

Totally not.

Israel is a soveriegn nation, and Jews around the world are no more responsible for it's actions and policies than Muslims around the world are for policies in Muslim dominant countries or Christians around the world are for policies are in Christian dominant countries.

The author of the article makes a good point:

]Anti-Semitism has been a constant in Europe, and that hasn't changed irrespective of what goes on in the Middle East, the president of the European Parliament, who is in Israel to deliver a speech to the Knesset later Wednesday, told The Jerusalem Post.

"Anti-Semitism always existed in Europe," said EU Parliament chief Martin Schulz. "I thought that after World War II we were stronger in fighting such demons in politics. This is a deception. Nothing disappeared, all the prejudice is there."

I think we saw that in the Norway anti-semitism thread where there was plenty of historic evidence to support this, unfortunately.

But there are two parts to this:

Do Israel's policies have an effect on anti-semitism? Not really, other than to provide fuel and justification for an already existing attitude that is directed towards jews in general.

Is criticism of Israel's policies anti-semitism? There is legitimate criticism of Israel's policies and anger at Israel that is directed at Israel specifically, and is fueled by some of it's policies and actions, not by anti-semitism.

The distinction can get blurred because there can be an overlap (Israel's actions provide a mask of "legitimacy" to existing anti-semitic attitudes) - but it's there and it's important to make that distinction.

It is easy to distinguish anti-Semitism from criticism of Israel. Its all in the language used.

Anti-Semites who criticise Israel can't help themselves but to eventually start talking about the Talmud, denying the Holocaust, accusing Jews of running the USA, accusing Jews of blood libels, saying the Jews aren't "real" Jews, you know the drill. I think you do.

 

[toastman]

I think anti - semites in Europe are just using this as an excuse to hate on the Jews

 

[Indeependent]

The State of Israel is antithetical to Church Dogma.
Self-promoters who want to make money and/or become powerful use this as their platform.
I remember Louis Farrakhan going on a world tour.
After he made his money, he disappeared from sight.

 

[Lipush]

EU parliament chief: Israeli policies have no impact on European anti-Semitism | JPost | Israel News

This is what the European Union Parliament Chief said at the Knesset.

This man is either as ignorant as a dead tree stump or is working his hardest to make Israelis happy.

Of course Isreali policies increase or decrease anti-Semitism.

Just as American policies increase or decrease hatred of the USA.

Its absurd to believe otherwise.

When Israel does the right thing and treats the territories and the Palestinians fairly, Israelis and by extension Jews are judged by this.

When Israel expands settlements, steals more Arab land, kills more Palestinian children, strips more Palestinians of their Permanent Residency status in East Jerusalem, Israelis and by extension Jews are judged by this.

Its only common sense.

What a rediculous bullshit.

Antisemites don't need reason to hate, and they surely aren't affected by Israel's policies.

 

[P F Tinmore]

EU parliament chief: Israeli policies have no impact on European anti-Semitism | JPost | Israel News

This is what the European Union Parliament Chief said at the Knesset.

This man is either as ignorant as a dead tree stump or is working his hardest to make Israelis happy.

Of course Isreali policies increase or decrease anti-Semitism.

Just as American policies increase or decrease hatred of the USA.

Its absurd to believe otherwise.

When Israel does the right thing and treats the territories and the Palestinians fairly, Israelis and by extension Jews are judged by this.

When Israel expands settlements, steals more Arab land, kills more Palestinian children, strips more Palestinians of their Permanent Residency status in East Jerusalem, Israelis and by extension Jews are judged by this.

Its only common sense.

So you think it's fair to display hatred towards Jews in Europe because of Israel's policies?

Totally not.

Israel is a soveriegn nation, and Jews around the world are no more responsible for it's actions and policies than Muslims around the world are for policies in Muslim dominant countries or Christians around the world are for policies are in Christian dominant countries.

The author of the article makes a good point:

]Anti-Semitism has been a constant in Europe, and that hasn't changed irrespective of what goes on in the Middle East, the president of the European Parliament, who is in Israel to deliver a speech to the Knesset later Wednesday, told The Jerusalem Post.

"Anti-Semitism always existed in Europe," said EU Parliament chief Martin Schulz. "I thought that after World War II we were stronger in fighting such demons in politics. This is a deception. Nothing disappeared, all the prejudice is there."

I think we saw that in the Norway anti-semitism thread where there was plenty of historic evidence to support this, unfortunately.

But there are two parts to this:

Do Israel's policies have an effect on anti-semitism? Not really, other than to provide fuel and justification for an already existing attitude that is directed towards jews in general.

Is criticism of Israel's policies anti-semitism? There is legitimate criticism of Israel's policies and anger at Israel that is directed at Israel specifically, and is fueled by some of it's policies and actions, not by anti-semitism.

The distinction can get blurred because there can be an overlap (Israel's actions provide a mask of "legitimacy" to existing anti-semitic attitudes) - but it's there and it's important to make that distinction.

Do Israel's policies have an effect on anti-semitism?

I think it does. When Israel kills 1400 people in Gaza, or shoots up an aid ship killing nine people, then shouts from the rooftops that it is a Jewish state, that can send ripples through Jewish communities around the world.

 

[Lipush]

So you think it's fair to display hatred towards Jews in Europe because of Israel's policies?

Fair? No.

Logical? No.

Reality of the world we live in? Yes.

Israel needs to understand that their behavior reflects on all Israelis and by extension all Jews.

That's true.

But Israel's policies don't affect Antisemites!

Those who hate Israelis and Jews won't start "loving" us even if we give up on all of our rights and drown ourselves in sea.

And those who simply don't agree with our policies for honest reasons, won't become antisemites because of those.

So no, Antisemitism has NOTHING to do with Israel's policies.

 

[Indeependent]

So you think it's fair to display hatred towards Jews in Europe because of Israel's policies?

Totally not.

Israel is a soveriegn nation, and Jews around the world are no more responsible for it's actions and policies than Muslims around the world are for policies in Muslim dominant countries or Christians around the world are for policies are in Christian dominant countries.

The author of the article makes a good point:



I think we saw that in the Norway anti-semitism thread where there was plenty of historic evidence to support this, unfortunately.

But there are two parts to this:

Do Israel's policies have an effect on anti-semitism? Not really, other than to provide fuel and justification for an already existing attitude that is directed towards jews in general.

Is criticism of Israel's policies anti-semitism? There is legitimate criticism of Israel's policies and anger at Israel that is directed at Israel specifically, and is fueled by some of it's policies and actions, not by anti-semitism.

The distinction can get blurred because there can be an overlap (Israel's actions provide a mask of "legitimacy" to existing anti-semitic attitudes) - but it's there and it's important to make that distinction.

Do Israel's policies have an effect on anti-semitism?

I think it does. When Israel kills 1400 people in Gaza, or shoots up an aid ship killing nine people, then shouts from the rooftops that it is a Jewish state, that can send ripples through Jewish communities around the world.

The overwhelming majority of my co-workers are not Jews and they love it when Israel kills terrorists that hide behind children.

 

[toastman]

So you think it's fair to display hatred towards Jews in Europe because of Israel's policies?

Totally not.

Israel is a soveriegn nation, and Jews around the world are no more responsible for it's actions and policies than Muslims around the world are for policies in Muslim dominant countries or Christians around the world are for policies are in Christian dominant countries.

The author of the article makes a good point:



I think we saw that in the Norway anti-semitism thread where there was plenty of historic evidence to support this, unfortunately.

But there are two parts to this:

Do Israel's policies have an effect on anti-semitism? Not really, other than to provide fuel and justification for an already existing attitude that is directed towards jews in general.

Is criticism of Israel's policies anti-semitism? There is legitimate criticism of Israel's policies and anger at Israel that is directed at Israel specifically, and is fueled by some of it's policies and actions, not by anti-semitism.

The distinction can get blurred because there can be an overlap (Israel's actions provide a mask of "legitimacy" to existing anti-semitic attitudes) - but it's there and it's important to make that distinction.

Do Israel's policies have an effect on anti-semitism?

I think it does. When Israel kills 1400 people in Gaza, or shoots up an aid ship killing nine people, then shouts from the rooftops that it is a Jewish state, that can send ripples through Jewish communities around the world.

Shoots up an aid ship

LOL Oh Tinmore, you never cease to amaze me ! I think what you meant to say is the navy seals boarded a ship that had the intention of breaking the blockade (they told the world their intention before leaving their dock), and fired at those who were beating and stabbing their fellow seals.
Of course, propagandists like yourself use this incident to vilify Israel by completely distorting the truth.

 

[Roudy]

EU parliament chief: Israeli policies have no impact on European anti-Semitism | JPost | Israel News

This is what the European Union Parliament Chief said at the Knesset.

This man is either as ignorant as a dead tree stump or is working his hardest to make Israelis happy.

Of course Isreali policies increase or decrease anti-Semitism.

Just as American policies increase or decrease hatred of the USA.

Its absurd to believe otherwise.

When Israel does the right thing and treats the territories and the Palestinians fairly, Israelis and by extension Jews are judged by this.

When Israel expands settlements, steals more Arab land, kills more Palestinian children, strips more Palestinians of their Permanent Residency status in East Jerusalem, Israelis and by extension Jews are judged by this.

Its only common sense.

He's right. Most anti semites were rabid anti semites to begin with. There is probably nothing Israel can or cannot do to change their thinking. Short of it's total destruction that is.

 

[Victory67]

That's true.

But Israel's policies don't affect Antisemites!

Those who hate Israelis and Jews won't start "loving" us even if we give up on all of our rights and drown ourselves in sea.

And those who simply don't agree with our policies for honest reasons, won't become antisemites because of those.

So no, Antisemitism has NOTHING to do with Israel's policies.

Do American actions affect how people around the world feel about Americans?

Of course.

Do events in France affect how people freel about the French? You bet.

Are opinions about the British influenced by British foreign policies? Surely.

That's why opinions about Jews are affected by the actions of The Jewish State.

Its all the same logic. Understand?

 

[Roudy]

So you think it's fair to display hatred towards Jews in Europe because of Israel's policies?

Totally not.

Israel is a soveriegn nation, and Jews around the world are no more responsible for it's actions and policies than Muslims around the world are for policies in Muslim dominant countries or Christians around the world are for policies are in Christian dominant countries.

The author of the article makes a good point:



I think we saw that in the Norway anti-semitism thread where there was plenty of historic evidence to support this, unfortunately.

But there are two parts to this:

Do Israel's policies have an effect on anti-semitism? Not really, other than to provide fuel and justification for an already existing attitude that is directed towards jews in general.

Is criticism of Israel's policies anti-semitism? There is legitimate criticism of Israel's policies and anger at Israel that is directed at Israel specifically, and is fueled by some of it's policies and actions, not by anti-semitism.

The distinction can get blurred because there can be an overlap (Israel's actions provide a mask of "legitimacy" to existing anti-semitic attitudes) - but it's there and it's important to make that distinction.

Do Israel's policies have an effect on anti-semitism?

I think it does. When Israel kills 1400 people in Gaza, or shoots up an aid ship killing nine people, then shouts from the rooftops that it is a Jewish state, that can send ripples through Jewish communities around the world.

When Gazans keep shooting rockets into Israel from the same rooftops, they should know that at some point those very same rooftops will be leveled.

 

[Roudy]

Totally not.

Israel is a soveriegn nation, and Jews around the world are no more responsible for it's actions and policies than Muslims around the world are for policies in Muslim dominant countries or Christians around the world are for policies are in Christian dominant countries.

The author of the article makes a good point:



I think we saw that in the Norway anti-semitism thread where there was plenty of historic evidence to support this, unfortunately.

But there are two parts to this:

Do Israel's policies have an effect on anti-semitism? Not really, other than to provide fuel and justification for an already existing attitude that is directed towards jews in general.

Is criticism of Israel's policies anti-semitism? There is legitimate criticism of Israel's policies and anger at Israel that is directed at Israel specifically, and is fueled by some of it's policies and actions, not by anti-semitism.

The distinction can get blurred because there can be an overlap (Israel's actions provide a mask of "legitimacy" to existing anti-semitic attitudes) - but it's there and it's important to make that distinction.

Do Israel's policies have an effect on anti-semitism?

I think it does. When Israel kills 1400 people in Gaza, or shoots up an aid ship killing nine people, then shouts from the rooftops that it is a Jewish state, that can send ripples through Jewish communities around the world.

The overwhelming majority of my co-workers are not Jews and they love it when Israel kills terrorists that hide behind children.

That because not only are Israel and the US close allies, but they also fight the same enemy.

 

[montelatici]

Totally not.

Israel is a soveriegn nation, and Jews around the world are no more responsible for it's actions and policies than Muslims around the world are for policies in Muslim dominant countries or Christians around the world are for policies are in Christian dominant countries.

The author of the article makes a good point:



I think we saw that in the Norway anti-semitism thread where there was plenty of historic evidence to support this, unfortunately.

But there are two parts to this:

Do Israel's policies have an effect on anti-semitism? Not really, other than to provide fuel and justification for an already existing attitude that is directed towards jews in general.

Is criticism of Israel's policies anti-semitism? There is legitimate criticism of Israel's policies and anger at Israel that is directed at Israel specifically, and is fueled by some of it's policies and actions, not by anti-semitism.

The distinction can get blurred because there can be an overlap (Israel's actions provide a mask of "legitimacy" to existing anti-semitic attitudes) - but it's there and it's important to make that distinction.

Do Israel's policies have an effect on anti-semitism?

I think it does. When Israel kills 1400 people in Gaza, or shoots up an aid ship killing nine people, then shouts from the rooftops that it is a Jewish state, that can send ripples through Jewish communities around the world.

The overwhelming majority of my co-workers are not Jews and they love it when Israel kills terrorists that hide behind children.

Brainwashed Americans would feel that way. Thankfully, the rest of the world thinks differently.

 

[Indeependent]

That's true.

But Israel's policies don't affect Antisemites!

Those who hate Israelis and Jews won't start "loving" us even if we give up on all of our rights and drown ourselves in sea.

And those who simply don't agree with our policies for honest reasons, won't become antisemites because of those.

So no, Antisemitism has NOTHING to do with Israel's policies.

Do American actions affect how people around the world feel about Americans?

Of course.

Do events in France affect how people freel about the French? You bet.

Are opinions about the British influenced by British foreign policies? Surely.

That's why opinions about Jews are affected by the actions of The Jewish State.

Its all the same logic. Understand?

Some of us react to behavior by researching the context.
Some people react with their knees.

 

[Victory67]

That because not only are Israel and the US close allies, but they also fight the same enemy.

Palestine is not our enemy.

 

[toastman]

So you think it's fair to display hatred towards Jews in Europe because of Israel's policies?

Totally not.

Israel is a soveriegn nation, and Jews around the world are no more responsible for it's actions and policies than Muslims around the world are for policies in Muslim dominant countries or Christians around the world are for policies are in Christian dominant countries.

The author of the article makes a good point:



I think we saw that in the Norway anti-semitism thread where there was plenty of historic evidence to support this, unfortunately.

But there are two parts to this:

Do Israel's policies have an effect on anti-semitism? Not really, other than to provide fuel and justification for an already existing attitude that is directed towards jews in general.

Is criticism of Israel's policies anti-semitism? There is legitimate criticism of Israel's policies and anger at Israel that is directed at Israel specifically, and is fueled by some of it's policies and actions, not by anti-semitism.

The distinction can get blurred because there can be an overlap (Israel's actions provide a mask of "legitimacy" to existing anti-semitic attitudes) - but it's there and it's important to make that distinction.

Do Israel's policies have an effect on anti-semitism?

I think it does. When Israel kills 1400 people in Gaza, or shoots up an aid ship killing nine people, then shouts from the rooftops that it is a Jewish state, that can send ripples through Jewish communities around the world.

So when Palestinians launched hundreds of suicide bombings from 2000-2005, or when they hijacked planes or when they threw a wheelchair bound man into the ocean, does that give a reason to hate Muslims ?