Islamic law adopted in Britain

[Diuretic]

So when a Muslim woman wants a divorce she has to go before a Muslim tribunal? When her husband beats her, steals her property and treats her like a slave, she must resort to a Muslim Tribunal? Yup sure sounds like enlightenment to me.

No.

 

[jillian]

So when a Muslim woman wants a divorce she has to go before a Muslim tribunal? When her husband beats her, steals her property and treats her like a slave, she must resort to a Muslim Tribunal? Yup sure sounds like enlightenment to me.

Ummmmm... no moreso than when a Catholic goes to his/her church for a religious divorce or a Jew goes to a Beit Din...

I'm not quite sure why the hysteria over this. Religious people of many stripes go to the state for civil remedies but to their religious tribunals for relief that will be recognized by their religion. A case dealing with the issue of how far those religious tribunals can go was actually just decided by the NYS Court of Appeals.

 

[007]

Let me explain something to retarded jesus freak americans.

The UK...and every other European country...laugh at ALL religions.

Islam, christianity, Hinduism... they are all exactly the same.

If anyone in public office admits to being religious...they are laughed out of town.

It is alot more embarassing than admitting to being a transvestite.

So there is ZERO chance of islam or any other religion ever taking any power in the UK//

Do you understand that jesus freak americans?

On top of being a total fucking jerk off, YOU are a LIAR.

Heeeeeerrree's your picture...

 

[ErikViking]

Under the act, the sharia courts are classified as arbitration tribunals. The rulings of arbitration tribunals are binding in law, provided that both parties in the dispute agree to give it the power to rule on their case.

I don't like this. A good society, I think, should be very keen on protecting its weakest members. There is a clear risk that this kind of legislation makes it impossible for some people to get a fair treatment.

One law, equal to everyone - that feels better to me. Muslim, Jew or Christian should be of no importance. and a person shouldn't be even able to decline the protection from the justice system.

But hey, then again I'm a socialist dog!

 

[roomy]

There is as much chance of Muslims taking over Britain as there is America having a Black President

 

[Bootneck]

Come now people! This story is typical British media hype and sensationalism. It is entirely misleading!

Firstly, these so called courts have existed for some time in one form or another. They exist in most muslim communities. They always have and they always will. In effect, they are not really courts as we know them. They are courts of arbitration, essentially assemblies of community leaders whose prime concern is Muslim propriety rather than criminal law.

The 'courts' can only deal with arbitration to do with family matters such as family disputes, disputes on debt, inheritance disputes, mosque disputes. They have no jurisdiction to deal with criminal offences.

Secondly, It is entirely misleading to say that these courts have suddenly been given the force of law. The UK Arbitration Act of 1996 permits disputes to be resolved using alternatives to courts of law such as tribunals. This is a method known as 'alternative dispute resolution'. Under the Act, the rulings of arbitration tribunals are binding in law, provided that both parties in the dispute agree to give it the power to rule on their case. The rulings of the sharia courts, have been enforceable through the law courts since this Act was introduced in 1996, as is dispute resolution for ALL. It is only now that muslims realised they could also benefit from it.

There is nothing sinister or threatening here. It is a storm in a teacup being brewed up by a less than honest media.

For those who want to know more:

Muslim Arbitration Tribunal

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

yup, Of Course Jews Have Been Demanding That According To Their Religion Government Must Be Religious Right? This Is Foolish In The Extreme. It Tells Muslims One Thing, That The West Is Weak.

It Encourages Them To Push For More And It Tells Them They Will Get What They Want. But You Spin It Anyway You Want. Remind Us Again How Christian Religion Is Bad But Muslims Should Have Their Own Laws.

Bingo!

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

Come now people! This story is typical British media hype and sensationalism. It is entirely misleading!

Firstly, these so called courts have existed for some time in one form or another. They exist in most muslim communities. They always have and they always will. In effect, they are not really courts as we know them. They are courts of arbitration, essentially assemblies of community leaders whose prime concern is Muslim propriety rather than criminal law.

The 'courts' can only deal with arbitration to do with family matters such as family disputes, disputes on debt, inheritance disputes, mosque disputes. They have no jurisdiction to deal with criminal offences.

Secondly, It is entirely misleading to say that these courts have suddenly been given the force of law. The UK Arbitration Act of 1996 permits disputes to be resolved using alternatives to courts of law such as tribunals. This is a method known as 'alternative dispute resolution'. Under the Act, the rulings of arbitration tribunals are binding in law, provided that both parties in the dispute agree to give it the power to rule on their case. The rulings of the sharia courts, have been enforceable through the law courts since this Act was introduced in 1996, as is dispute resolution for ALL. It is only now that muslims realised they could also benefit from it.

There is nothing sinister or threatening here. It is a storm in a teacup being brewed up by a less than honest media.

For those who want to know more:

Muslim Arbitration Tribunal

Yeah... Clearly this is no big deal. Just as it was no big deal when British Law oulawed the right of the individual subject to defend themselves... "PEACE IN OUR TIME!" (Translated from PC -hink this simply means: "We don't want no trouble. Let the Government and the Social Scientists worry about it, they know best."

 

[plt42]

Let me explain something to retarded jesus freak americans.

The UK...and every other European country...laugh at ALL religions.

Islam, christianity, Hinduism... they are all exactly the same.

If anyone in public office admits to being religious...they are laughed out of town.

It is alot more embarassing than admitting to being a transvestite.

So there is ZERO chance of islam or any other religion ever taking any power in the UK//

Do you understand that jesus freak americans?

Mikey... I'd like to recommend two books that might help your credibility here.

1) How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie
2) The Art of the Deal by Donald J. Trump

You do read, don't you?

 

[WillowTree]

Yeah... Clearly this is no big deal. Just as it was no big deal when British Law oulawed the right of the individual subject to defend themselves... "PEACE IN OUR TIME!" (Translated from PC -hink this simply means: "We don't want no trouble. Let the Government and the Social Scientists worry about it, they know best."

exactly, make one wonder why, if British law was a just law fair and equitable, there is a need for a seperate law at all. Says the people immigrating to British soil do not want to assimilate. And, for sure, given and inch they will want a mile and it shall be done. Just like the Brits don't teach the holocaust anymore, or the crusades. Why is that?

 

[MichaelCollins]

exactly, make one wonder why, if British law was a just law fair and equitable, there is a need for a seperate law at all. Says the people immigrating to British soil do not want to assimilate. And, for sure, given and inch they will want a mile and it shall be done. Just like the Brits don't teach the holocaust anymore, or the crusades. Why is that?

Is there any other response...but pity?

Hardly surprising ..that BUSHTEAM thought they could control the minds of these peasants with fear and hatred ...

You just couldnt make this gullibility up.

 

[Shogun]

regarding British law, well, I dont have a dog in that race.


But I would vehemently opposed anything like this applied to the US.

 

[WillowTree]

regarding British law, well, I dont have a dog in that race.


But I would vehemently opposed anything like this applied to the US.

What do you know? You are a religious American Jesus freak.


michael collins says so...

 

[Shogun]

What do you know? You are a religious American Jesus freak.


michael collins says so...

not at all. Im just even handed in my refusal to allow any form of dogma junkie bullshit into my government.

 

[PubliusInfinitum]

I don't like this. A good society, I think, should be very keen on protecting its weakest members. There is a clear risk that this kind of legislation makes it impossible for some people to get a fair treatment.

One law, equal to everyone - that feels better to me. Muslim, Jew or Christian should be of no importance. and a person shouldn't be even able to decline the protection from the justice system.

But hey, then again I'm a socialist dog!

You have to understand that the British population is now a stark majority of Secular Humanist PC morons...

Now "Cultural Diversity" is a mainstay tenet of Political Correctness... It's been preached from the High Pulpit of Secular Humanism for decades and is largely responsible for the decline of western civilization. It foists upon a given culture the absurdity that all cultures are equal... as a result of this, the long time immigration tradition of assimilation has been set aside. Immigrants into various cultures no longer seek to assimilate into the host culture, maintaining their native language, traditions and practices.

Britain is now rife with Muslims... Muslims are, in just the last 7 years demanding exponentially more rights and priviledges specific to their faith... and as the idiot Michael Collins points out, while Britains are moving away from a faith based population and as the British birth rate falls, the birth rates of Muslims is increasing and Muslims in the UK are taking more and more rights and priviledges. Britains are now looking at a very politically mobile segment of their culture coming to power; it will not be long before we see Muslims coming to the British Legislature, where at some point they will find themselves with a majority of votes... These are highly devout believers, who are very patient and willing to sacrifice to accomplish long term goals and when they have accumulated power; Islam will become the law of the land the UK and the common Brit will be powerless to do a damn thing about it.

Let us not forget that British subjects are disarmed. In a few years the right to self defense will have gone without government protections in the UK for three generations... and those secularist who find themselves facing Sharia Law will be helpless but to convert to Islam or accept their execution for denying the existance of God...

Frankly, I find it hard to wish against; as they will have brought it upon themselves, in the face of more than sufficient evidence to warn a reasonably intelligent person.

 

[WillowTree]

not at all. Im just even handed in my refusal to allow any form of dogma junkie bullshit into my government.

I said that tongue in cheek. But I applaud you. And totally agree with you. You see people like MC have to scream obscenities at Americans. They have lost what we have. They have lost their country.

 

[Bootneck]

exactly, make one wonder why, if British law was a just law fair and equitable, there is a need for a seperate law at all. Says the people immigrating to British soil do not want to assimilate. And, for sure, given and inch they will want a mile and it shall be done.

If you don't know what you're talking about, it's better to keep your mouth shut and appear foolish, rather than opening it and proving it beyond doubt!

Read my frigging post again!!! Then perhaps it may dawn on you that there is no law specifically for muslims. They are making use of a clause in the Arbitration Act, made law in 1996, that allows ANYONE of ANY RACE, COLOUR or RELIGION to set up an arbitration tribunal to rule on family disputes. The rulings of which are enforceable in a legal court.

Just like the Brits don't teach the holocaust anymore, or the crusades. Why is that?

It's compulsory under the national curriculum, ignoramus!!!:

The Secretary of State for Children, Schools and Families (Ed Balls): More than 1,500 students have now had the opportunity to visit the concentration camps at Auschwitz-Birkenau as a result of the work of the Holocaust Educational Trust and to build on the learning that they have received through the national curriculum about the horrors of the holocaust and the lessons that we should learn from it. I can announce today that we will allocate £4.65 million for the next three years to ensure that that work can continue. I can also reassure my hon. Friend that a proper evaluation of the funding on those trips, as well as of their impact on young people’s citizenship and their understanding of the world, will be built into the HET’s work as part of that three-year funding.

House of Commons Hansard Debates for 04 Feb 2008 (pt 0002)


If you want to take a pop at my country MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR FUCKING facts right!!!!!!!

 

[Bootneck]

You have to understand that the British population is now a stark majority of Secular Humanist PC morons...

Now "Cultural Diversity" is a mainstay tenet of Political Correctness... It's been preached from the High Pulpit of Secular Humanism for decades and is largely responsible for the decline of western civilization. It foists upon a given culture the absurdity that all cultures are equal... as a result of this, the long time immigration tradition of assimilation has been set aside. Immigrants into various cultures no longer seek to assimilate into the host culture, maintaining their native language, traditions and practices.

Britain is now rife with Muslims... Muslims are, in just the last 7 years demanding exponentially more rights and priviledges specific to their faith... and as the idiot Michael Collins points out, while Britains are moving away from a faith based population and as the British birth rate falls, the birth rates of Muslims is increasing and Muslims in the UK are taking more and more rights and priviledges. Britains are now looking at a very politically mobile segment of their culture coming to power; it will not be long before we see Muslims coming to the British Legislature, where at some point they will find themselves with a majority of votes... These are highly devout believers, who are very patient and willing to sacrifice to accomplish long term goals and when they have accumulated power; Islam will become the law of the land the UK and the common Brit will be powerless to do a damn thing about it.

Let us not forget that British subjects are disarmed. In a few years the right to self defense will have gone without government protections in the UK for three generations... and those secularist who find themselves facing Sharia Law will be helpless but to convert to Islam or accept their execution for denying the existance of God...

Frankly, I find it hard to wish against; as they will have brought it upon themselves, in the face of more than sufficient evidence to warn a reasonably intelligent person.

Welcome to the US version of Michael Collins

 

[WillowTree]

If you don't know what you're talking about, it's better to keep your mouth shut and appear foolish, rather than opening it and proving it beyond doubt!

Read my frigging post again!!! Then perhaps it may dawn on you that there is no law specifically for muslims. They are making use of a clause in the Arbitration Act, made law in 1996, that allows ANYONE of ANY RACE, COLOUR or RELIGION to set up an arbitration tribunal to rule on family disputes. The rulings of which are enforceable in a legal court.



It's compulsory under the national curriculum, ignoramus!!!:

The Secretary of State for Children, Schools and Families (Ed Balls): More than 1,500 students have now had the opportunity to visit the concentration camps at Auschwitz-Birkenau as a result of the work of the Holocaust Educational Trust and to build on the learning that they have received through the national curriculum about the horrors of the holocaust and the lessons that we should learn from it. I can announce today that we will allocate £4.65 million for the next three years to ensure that that work can continue. I can also reassure my hon. Friend that a proper evaluation of the funding on those trips, as well as of their impact on young people’s citizenship and their understanding of the world, will be built into the HET’s work as part of that three-year funding.

House of Commons Hansard Debates for 04 Feb 2008 (pt 0002)


If you want to take a pop at my country MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR FUCKING facts right!!!!!!!

call me foolish, but why do you need a seperate arbitration for Muslims???? English law not fair and equitable??????

 

[WillowTree]

If you want to take a pop at my country MAKE SURE YOU HAVE YOUR FUCKING facts right!!!!!!!





Hee heee, kinda like you guys popping off about the USA.