Islam on trial

[TNHarley]

Gandhi is a Liberal Wet Dream to appeasement of Islam. No one can question that he went to EXTREMES to push Pacifism and Peace with Islam and the Muslims..........In the end, the area was divided into India and Pakistan. Along Religious lines.......At this border between these 2 countries............they have border fights all the time.........

Gandhi FAILED because HE REFUSED TO SEE the DIFFERENCE in the cultures. The Muslim leaders still looked down on him with disdain.

If Gandhi couldn't do it then, then WHO THE HELL COULD DO IT NOW???????

It's not possible. Only the Naive think it can be done. Which fits the Liberal Agenda to the T...................

Why are you trying to conflate "religion" with "culture"?

Religion is part of their culture........Geesh...........You don't get it.

Religion and culture are separate entities.
By definition.
Period.

Don't try to rhetorically fuck with an Anthropologist. He'll whup you wid a switch made out of a linguistic branch.

Very true. However, Islam is a political system.. A way of life all on its own. Islam tells you how to deal with property, hygiene, politics etc

Don't think so, no. Especially hygiene, since you brought it up. That's entirely cultural.

Yep. And islam tells them what to do.
My point lol

 

[Pogo]

Why are you trying to conflate "religion" with "culture"?

Religion is part of their culture........Geesh...........You don't get it.

Religion and culture are separate entities.
By definition.
Period.

Don't try to rhetorically fuck with an Anthropologist. He'll whup you wid a switch made out of a linguistic branch.

Very true. However, Islam is a political system.. A way of life all on its own. Islam tells you how to deal with property, hygiene, politics etc

Don't think so, no. Especially hygiene, since you brought it up. That's entirely cultural.

Yep. And islam tells them what to do.
My point lol

A bit like here, innit? --- Everybody Must Get Stoned

​

 

[TNHarley]

Religion is part of their culture........Geesh...........You don't get it.

Religion and culture are separate entities.
By definition.
Period.

Don't try to rhetorically fuck with an Anthropologist. He'll whup you wid a switch made out of a linguistic branch.

Very true. However, Islam is a political system.. A way of life all on its own. Islam tells you how to deal with property, hygiene, politics etc

Don't think so, no. Especially hygiene, since you brought it up. That's entirely cultural.

Yep. And islam tells them what to do.
My point lol

A bit like here, innit? --- Everybody Must Get Stoned

​

Does that make you feel better?

 

[eagle1462010]

Gandhi is a Liberal Wet Dream to appeasement of Islam. No one can question that he went to EXTREMES to push Pacifism and Peace with Islam and the Muslims..........In the end, the area was divided into India and Pakistan. Along Religious lines.......At this border between these 2 countries............they have border fights all the time.........

Gandhi FAILED because HE REFUSED TO SEE the DIFFERENCE in the cultures. The Muslim leaders still looked down on him with disdain.

If Gandhi couldn't do it then, then WHO THE HELL COULD DO IT NOW???????

It's not possible. Only the Naive think it can be done. Which fits the Liberal Agenda to the T...................

Why are you trying to conflate "religion" with "culture"?

Religion is part of their culture........Geesh...........You don't get it.

Religion and culture are separate entities.
By definition.
Period.

Don't try to rhetorically fuck with an Anthropologist. He'll whup you wid a switch made out of a linguistic branch.

Religion has no place in a people's culture.................



Pogo the new Gandhi..........with all the answers..........Go forth and show us the way Gandhi..........and WIN where he failed........Just remember a bullet proof vest and armed escort.

Ghandi didn't "fail". Unless your idea of "winning" is for nobody to ever disagree with you or some shit.

He failed in respect to the OP. Islam and Hindu's eventually moved from their homes in the respective of the countries of Pakistan and India. Primarily across RELIGIOUS LINES.

He Won in regards to removing British Colonialism and the creation of India. But spare me that he won over the conflict between Hindu and Muslim.

Video of India becoming a country.

 

[eagle1462010]

A Million Died in the creation......As the 2 religions killed each other in the birth of 2 new nations.

 

[Pogo]

Religion and culture are separate entities.
By definition.
Period.

Don't try to rhetorically fuck with an Anthropologist. He'll whup you wid a switch made out of a linguistic branch.

Very true. However, Islam is a political system.. A way of life all on its own. Islam tells you how to deal with property, hygiene, politics etc

Don't think so, no. Especially hygiene, since you brought it up. That's entirely cultural.

Yep. And islam tells them what to do.
My point lol

A bit like here, innit? --- Everybody Must Get Stoned

​

Does that make you feel better?

Yeah I love that scene for the hypocrisy it exposes. Of course the original text it's based on is much more comprehensive:

Dear Dr. Laura,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that
Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.

​

Aptly demonstrates the fallacies of Double Standards and selective interpretation. Verily, 'tis a rhetorical truncheon.

 

[TNHarley]

Very true. However, Islam is a political system.. A way of life all on its own. Islam tells you how to deal with property, hygiene, politics etc

Don't think so, no. Especially hygiene, since you brought it up. That's entirely cultural.

Yep. And islam tells them what to do.
My point lol

A bit like here, innit? --- Everybody Must Get Stoned

​

Does that make you feel better?

Yeah I love that scene for the hypocrisy it exposes. Of course the original text it's based on is much more comprehensive:

Dear Dr. Laura,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that
Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.

​

Aptly demonstrates the fallacies of Double Standards and selective interpretation. Verily, 'tis a rhetorical truncheon.

what hypocrisy?

 

[Pogo]

Why are you trying to conflate "religion" with "culture"?

Religion is part of their culture........Geesh...........You don't get it.

Religion and culture are separate entities.
By definition.
Period.

Don't try to rhetorically fuck with an Anthropologist. He'll whup you wid a switch made out of a linguistic branch.

Religion has no place in a people's culture.................



Pogo the new Gandhi..........with all the answers..........Go forth and show us the way Gandhi..........and WIN where he failed........Just remember a bullet proof vest and armed escort.

Ghandi didn't "fail". Unless your idea of "winning" is for nobody to ever disagree with you or some shit.

He failed in respect to the OP. Islam and Hindu's eventually moved from their homes in the respective of the countries of Pakistan and India. Primarily across RELIGIOUS LINES.

He Won in regards to removing British Colonialism and the creation of India. But spare me that he won over the conflict between Hindu and Muslim.

Video of India becoming a country.

---- and the fact that you're completely head-in-the-sand oblivious to how the UK set that scene up WITH its colonialism (a paradigm repeated in countless other hot spots particularly in the ME and Africa) proves my earlier point that the distinction between religions and politics is as lost on you as is the distinction between religion and culture.

Thanks for playin' and be sure to play World Politics for Dummies at home. Minutes of fun for the whole family. Ages 14 and down.

 

[Pogo]

Don't think so, no. Especially hygiene, since you brought it up. That's entirely cultural.

Yep. And islam tells them what to do.
My point lol

A bit like here, innit? --- Everybody Must Get Stoned

​

Does that make you feel better?

Yeah I love that scene for the hypocrisy it exposes. Of course the original text it's based on is much more comprehensive:

Dear Dr. Laura,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that
Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.

​

Aptly demonstrates the fallacies of Double Standards and selective interpretation. Verily, 'tis a rhetorical truncheon.

what hypocrisy?

Obviously, the hypocrisy of claiming Entity A (in this case "Islam") is singularly responsible for X, Y and Z degradation elementally, while utterly ignoring that entity B (in this case Christianism) contains exactly the same elements. Therefore the causation is proven fallacious. Post Hoc fallacy, hi-test blend.

Want some cherries? Somebody picked a yuuuuge bushel here.

 

[eagle1462010]

Religion is part of their culture........Geesh...........You don't get it.

Religion and culture are separate entities.
By definition.
Period.

Don't try to rhetorically fuck with an Anthropologist. He'll whup you wid a switch made out of a linguistic branch.

Religion has no place in a people's culture.................



Pogo the new Gandhi..........with all the answers..........Go forth and show us the way Gandhi..........and WIN where he failed........Just remember a bullet proof vest and armed escort.

Ghandi didn't "fail". Unless your idea of "winning" is for nobody to ever disagree with you or some shit.

He failed in respect to the OP. Islam and Hindu's eventually moved from their homes in the respective of the countries of Pakistan and India. Primarily across RELIGIOUS LINES.

He Won in regards to removing British Colonialism and the creation of India. But spare me that he won over the conflict between Hindu and Muslim.

Video of India becoming a country.

---- and the fact that you're completely head-in-the-sand oblivious to how the UK set that scene up WITH its colonialism (a paradigm repeated in countless other hot spots particularly in the ME and Africa) proves my earlier point that the distinction between religions and politics is as lost on you as is the distinction between religion and culture.

Thanks for playin' and be sure to play World Politics for Dummies at home. Minutes of fun for the whole family. Ages 14 and down.

You said Ghandi wasn't a failure............His position was for 1 STATE...............Did that happen?

He wanted the British rule gone..............and they did go...........but the division of the countries was based on the population of RELGION.........In the area of the GENOCIDE................the majority was Muslim...........and the remaining other ethnic groups were SLAUGHTERED BY MUSLIMS there............

15 Million were driven from their homes...from both sides.............and at least a million died.

The BORDERS were set PRIMARILY between RELIGIOUS LINES...........You are a BS artist and a FOOL.

Tell me the meaning of the Hindu Kursh mountains...............that would be a hoot.

 

[Pogo]

Religion and culture are separate entities.
By definition.
Period.

Don't try to rhetorically fuck with an Anthropologist. He'll whup you wid a switch made out of a linguistic branch.

Religion has no place in a people's culture.................



Pogo the new Gandhi..........with all the answers..........Go forth and show us the way Gandhi..........and WIN where he failed........Just remember a bullet proof vest and armed escort.

Ghandi didn't "fail". Unless your idea of "winning" is for nobody to ever disagree with you or some shit.

He failed in respect to the OP. Islam and Hindu's eventually moved from their homes in the respective of the countries of Pakistan and India. Primarily across RELIGIOUS LINES.

He Won in regards to removing British Colonialism and the creation of India. But spare me that he won over the conflict between Hindu and Muslim.

Video of India becoming a country.

---- and the fact that you're completely head-in-the-sand oblivious to how the UK set that scene up WITH its colonialism (a paradigm repeated in countless other hot spots particularly in the ME and Africa) proves my earlier point that the distinction between religions and politics is as lost on you as is the distinction between religion and culture.

Thanks for playin' and be sure to play World Politics for Dummies at home. Minutes of fun for the whole family. Ages 14 and down.

You said Ghandi wasn't a failure............His position was for 1 STATE...............Did that happen?

"No wait -- move it over there, by the strawman"

 

[TNHarley]

Yep. And islam tells them what to do.
My point lol

A bit like here, innit? --- Everybody Must Get Stoned

​

Does that make you feel better?

Yeah I love that scene for the hypocrisy it exposes. Of course the original text it's based on is much more comprehensive:

Dear Dr. Laura,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that
Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.

​

Aptly demonstrates the fallacies of Double Standards and selective interpretation. Verily, 'tis a rhetorical truncheon.

what hypocrisy?

Obviously, the hypocrisy of claiming Entity A (in this case "Islam") is singularly responsible for X, Y and Z degradation elementally, while utterly ignoring that entity B (in this case Christianism) contains exactly the same elements. Therefore the causation is proven fallacious. Post Hoc fallacy, hi-test blend.

Want some cherries? Somebody picked a yuuuuge bushel here.

OT? LOL ok
Seems like all you did was change the subject so you might could "win" something but you didn't. We are talking about Islam. Besides, I am agnostic so I dont give a shit about other religions. We are talking about Islam.
Weren't you pretty overbearing on debate fallacies, just yesterday?
I don't cherry pick on religion. I am as strait as they come on this subject.
But when people want to talk about religion, and ignore certain aspects that are still practiced today; THAT would be cherry picking.

 

[eagle1462010]

Religion has no place in a people's culture.................



Pogo the new Gandhi..........with all the answers..........Go forth and show us the way Gandhi..........and WIN where he failed........Just remember a bullet proof vest and armed escort.

Ghandi didn't "fail". Unless your idea of "winning" is for nobody to ever disagree with you or some shit.

He failed in respect to the OP. Islam and Hindu's eventually moved from their homes in the respective of the countries of Pakistan and India. Primarily across RELIGIOUS LINES.

He Won in regards to removing British Colonialism and the creation of India. But spare me that he won over the conflict between Hindu and Muslim.

Video of India becoming a country.

---- and the fact that you're completely head-in-the-sand oblivious to how the UK set that scene up WITH its colonialism (a paradigm repeated in countless other hot spots particularly in the ME and Africa) proves my earlier point that the distinction between religions and politics is as lost on you as is the distinction between religion and culture.

Thanks for playin' and be sure to play World Politics for Dummies at home. Minutes of fun for the whole family. Ages 14 and down.

You said Ghandi wasn't a failure............His position was for 1 STATE...............Did that happen?

"No wait -- move it over there, by the strawman"

Let's move the post again then shall we............Mr. Religion plays no part in Culture...........Were the British at fault in the creation of Bangladesh??????? What happened to them........................

1971 and it is known as the Bangladesh Genocide. As Pakistani forces slaughtered and raped in the area and went to War. India joined in the fight and won.....and the creation of Bangladesh occurred.......................

1971 Bangladesh genocide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bangladesh Liberation War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Pogo]

A bit like here, innit? --- Everybody Must Get Stoned

​

Does that make you feel better?

Yeah I love that scene for the hypocrisy it exposes. Of course the original text it's based on is much more comprehensive:

Dear Dr. Laura,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that
Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.

​

Aptly demonstrates the fallacies of Double Standards and selective interpretation. Verily, 'tis a rhetorical truncheon.

what hypocrisy?

Obviously, the hypocrisy of claiming Entity A (in this case "Islam") is singularly responsible for X, Y and Z degradation elementally, while utterly ignoring that entity B (in this case Christianism) contains exactly the same elements. Therefore the causation is proven fallacious. Post Hoc fallacy, hi-test blend.

Want some cherries? Somebody picked a yuuuuge bushel here.

OT? LOL ok
Seems like all you did was change the subject so you might could "win" something but you didn't. We are talking about Islam. Besides, I am agnostic so I dont give a shit about other religions. We are talking about Islam.
Weren't you pretty overbearing on debate fallacies, just yesterday?
I don't cherry pick on religion. I am as strait as they come on this subject.
But when people want to talk about religion, and ignore certain aspects that are still practiced today; THAT would be cherry picking.

I don't either -- I'm not taking any side for or against either religion; I don't believe in either one. I'm just observing really bad logic, and pointing out that that's what it is.

And I'm not referring to you anyway, just explaining the earlier analogy of Leviticus and shit. They (the fallacists) like to point a finger at (what they imagine from Pam Geller is) the Qu'ran, while completely ignoring the Leviticusly Deuteronomous idiocy that is its absolute mirror.

As I always say in my advertising voiceover: "Having it both ways --- Priceless!"

 

[eagle1462010]

A Hindu hell on earth: Families are being torn apart by their

They had waited for years. So when the opportunity came they took it, even if it meant leaving behind friends and neighbours, brothers and husbands. Even a three-day-old baby boy. Seven weeks ago, almost 500 Hindus from Pakistan crossed into India on the pretence of visiting a religious festival. In reality, they had come to escape religious persecution and poverty. Some said they would rather commit suicide than go back.

“Pakistan is worse than hell for Hindus,” said one of those who managed to flee, Laxman Das, a fruit trader from Hyderabad.

The Hindus, who came in three groups, said their biggest motivation to leave was the challenge of educating their children. There was discrimination in government schools, where they were referred to as “kafirs”, told to go and work in the fields and obliged to recite the six kalimas, or tenets, of Islam.


Religion is their government, their culture, and their law......unless you live under a rock.

 

[TNHarley]

Does that make you feel better?

Yeah I love that scene for the hypocrisy it exposes. Of course the original text it's based on is much more comprehensive:

Dear Dr. Laura,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that
Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.

​

Aptly demonstrates the fallacies of Double Standards and selective interpretation. Verily, 'tis a rhetorical truncheon.

what hypocrisy?

Obviously, the hypocrisy of claiming Entity A (in this case "Islam") is singularly responsible for X, Y and Z degradation elementally, while utterly ignoring that entity B (in this case Christianism) contains exactly the same elements. Therefore the causation is proven fallacious. Post Hoc fallacy, hi-test blend.

Want some cherries? Somebody picked a yuuuuge bushel here.

OT? LOL ok
Seems like all you did was change the subject so you might could "win" something but you didn't. We are talking about Islam. Besides, I am agnostic so I dont give a shit about other religions. We are talking about Islam.
Weren't you pretty overbearing on debate fallacies, just yesterday?
I don't cherry pick on religion. I am as strait as they come on this subject.
But when people want to talk about religion, and ignore certain aspects that are still practiced today; THAT would be cherry picking.

I don't either -- I'm not taking any side for or against either religion; I don't believe in either one. I'm just observing really bad logic, and pointing out that that's what it is.

And I'm not referring to you anyway, just explaining the earlier analogy of Leviticus and shit. They (the fallacists) like to point a finger at (what they imagine from Pam Geller is) the Qu'ran, while completely ignoring the Leviticusly Deuteronomous idiocy that is its absolute mirror.

As I always say in my advertising voiceover: "Having it both ways --- Priceless!"

My logic isn't bad. At all. In fact, it is nothing but truth.
The OT means NOTHING when we are discussing Islam. Because, obviously, it is a derailment.
Pogo, you are one smart guy. Seriously. From top to bottom. I enjoy 90% of your posts. But when you are discussing Islam, you are about as dishonest as they come. You even admitted to me you didn't know what sections I was referring to one day, and STILL continued to argue with me... You are too smart for that shit man.

 

[eagle1462010]

Does that make you feel better?

Yeah I love that scene for the hypocrisy it exposes. Of course the original text it's based on is much more comprehensive:

Dear Dr. Laura,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that
Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.

​

Aptly demonstrates the fallacies of Double Standards and selective interpretation. Verily, 'tis a rhetorical truncheon.

what hypocrisy?

Obviously, the hypocrisy of claiming Entity A (in this case "Islam") is singularly responsible for X, Y and Z degradation elementally, while utterly ignoring that entity B (in this case Christianism) contains exactly the same elements. Therefore the causation is proven fallacious. Post Hoc fallacy, hi-test blend.

Want some cherries? Somebody picked a yuuuuge bushel here.

OT? LOL ok
Seems like all you did was change the subject so you might could "win" something but you didn't. We are talking about Islam. Besides, I am agnostic so I dont give a shit about other religions. We are talking about Islam.
Weren't you pretty overbearing on debate fallacies, just yesterday?
I don't cherry pick on religion. I am as strait as they come on this subject.
But when people want to talk about religion, and ignore certain aspects that are still practiced today; THAT would be cherry picking.

I don't either -- I'm not taking any side for or against either religion; I don't believe in either one. I'm just observing really bad logic, and pointing out that that's what it is.

And I'm not referring to you anyway, just explaining the earlier analogy of Leviticus and shit. They (the fallacists) like to point a finger at (what they imagine from Pam Geller is) the Qu'ran, while completely ignoring the Leviticusly Deuteronomous idiocy that is its absolute mirror.

As I always say in my advertising voiceover: "Having it both ways --- Priceless!"

What your analogy refuses to show is which side of the equation is currently butchering people on earth..............People like you keep quoting Christian verses to soften what RADICAL ISLAM is doing and HAS DONE.

You will overlook the evidence of past Genocides and say LOOK..........CHRISTIANS BAD TOO.................After the slaughter by the hands of those of Radical Islam. As you ignore the crimes against Humanity performed by these Religions and countries in the name of Religion..................

Their Gov't is their Religion is their culture..............as you refuse to answer to evidence posted to exact GENOCIDES proving the dang point.

As you refuse to see that Gandhi couldn't even stop it.

 

[TNHarley]

Christianity in NO WAY compares to Islam.
Fools party.

 

[Pogo]

Christianity in NO WAY compares to Islam.
Fools party.

Of course it does.

Monotheist, male-centered Middle Eastern medieval murmuring madness. They have all the "differences" of a Toyota and a Honda.

 

[Pogo]

Yeah I love that scene for the hypocrisy it exposes. Of course the original text it's based on is much more comprehensive:

Dear Dr. Laura,

Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that
Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.

I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.

a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?

b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?

c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.

d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?

e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?

f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?

g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?

i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?

j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)

I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.

Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.

Your devoted disciple and adoring fan.

​

Aptly demonstrates the fallacies of Double Standards and selective interpretation. Verily, 'tis a rhetorical truncheon.

what hypocrisy?

Obviously, the hypocrisy of claiming Entity A (in this case "Islam") is singularly responsible for X, Y and Z degradation elementally, while utterly ignoring that entity B (in this case Christianism) contains exactly the same elements. Therefore the causation is proven fallacious. Post Hoc fallacy, hi-test blend.

Want some cherries? Somebody picked a yuuuuge bushel here.

OT? LOL ok
Seems like all you did was change the subject so you might could "win" something but you didn't. We are talking about Islam. Besides, I am agnostic so I dont give a shit about other religions. We are talking about Islam.
Weren't you pretty overbearing on debate fallacies, just yesterday?
I don't cherry pick on religion. I am as strait as they come on this subject.
But when people want to talk about religion, and ignore certain aspects that are still practiced today; THAT would be cherry picking.

I don't either -- I'm not taking any side for or against either religion; I don't believe in either one. I'm just observing really bad logic, and pointing out that that's what it is.

And I'm not referring to you anyway, just explaining the earlier analogy of Leviticus and shit. They (the fallacists) like to point a finger at (what they imagine from Pam Geller is) the Qu'ran, while completely ignoring the Leviticusly Deuteronomous idiocy that is its absolute mirror.

As I always say in my advertising voiceover: "Having it both ways --- Priceless!"

My logic isn't bad. At all. In fact, it is nothing but truth.
The OT means NOTHING when we are discussing Islam. Because, obviously, it is a derailment.
Pogo, you are one smart guy. Seriously. From top to bottom. I enjoy 90% of your posts. But when you are discussing Islam, you are about as dishonest as they come. You even admitted to me you didn't know what sections I was referring to one day, and STILL continued to argue with me... You are too smart for that shit man.

Quote me summa this here "dishonesty", o my brother.