Islam on trial

Terrorism does not equal Islam. It is two different things. Anyone who has half a brain and knows how to reason understands that. The people you are afraid of and don't like are terrorists who have hijacked Islam to justiify their acts. They do not represent Islam--they only say they do. There are 1.7 Muslims in the world; only a tiny, miniscule minority are terrorists or support terrorism. The rest of Islam does not support them and is as afraid of them as everyone else is. It is a fact, indeed, that the majority of people right now fighting against ISIS are Muslims. Get a grip on reallity instead of being influenced by fear mongering.
What a relief................only 1.7 of them............geesh.............

Most terrorism on the planet comes from What faith........Alex.???????

Terrorism doesn't come from "faith". It come from politics.
LOL

You obviously haven't been on that side of the world. Faith drives their politics.......Religion rules their life and their Governments there. That is based on their faith in Islam..........Under the Koran, the Radical elements are practicing the letter of the Koran in killing the unbelievers............

You are Naive.
I have been on 'that side of the world' for over 8 years. You are crazy and stupid. You understand nothing.

I have lived in 3 Muslim countries, worked with Muslims, lived with them as neighbors, socialized with them as friends, known them as colleagues, etc., for over 8 years. All the BS you think you know about the average Muslim is not true. You know nothing. You're a bigot and an idiot and supremely uniformed.
 
Terrorism does not equal Islam. It is two different things. Anyone who has half a brain and knows how to reason understands that. The people you are afraid of and don't like are terrorists who have hijacked Islam to justiify their acts. They do not represent Islam--they only say they do. There are 1.7 Muslims in the world; only a tiny, miniscule minority are terrorists or support terrorism. The rest of Islam does not support them and is as afraid of them as everyone else is. It is a fact, indeed, that the majority of people right now fighting against ISIS are Muslims. Get a grip on reallity instead of being influenced by fear mongering.
What a relief................only 1.7 of them............geesh.............

Most terrorism on the planet comes from What faith........Alex.???????

Terrorism doesn't come from "faith". It come from politics.
LOL

You obviously haven't been on that side of the world. Faith drives their politics.......Religion rules their life and their Governments there. That is based on their faith in Islam..........Under the Koran, the Radical elements are practicing the letter of the Koran in killing the unbelievers............

You are Naive.
I have been on 'that side of the world' for over 8 years. You are crazy and stupid. You understand nothing.
So how do we stop Radical Islam then? Huh............The Gandhi approach..............that worked out so well didn't it?
 
Terrorism does not equal Islam. It is two different things. Anyone who has half a brain and knows how to reason understands that. The people you are afraid of and don't like are terrorists who have hijacked Islam to justiify their acts. They do not represent Islam--they only say they do. There are 1.7 Muslims in the world; only a tiny, miniscule minority are terrorists or support terrorism. The rest of Islam does not support them and is as afraid of them as everyone else is. It is a fact, indeed, that the majority of people right now fighting against ISIS are Muslims. Get a grip on reallity instead of being influenced by fear mongering.
What a relief................only 1.7 of them............geesh.............

Most terrorism on the planet comes from What faith........Alex.???????

Terrorism doesn't come from "faith". It come from politics.
LOL

You obviously haven't been on that side of the world. Faith drives their politics.......Religion rules their life and their Governments there. That is based on their faith in Islam..........Under the Koran, the Radical elements are practicing the letter of the Koran in killing the unbelievers............

You are Naive.
I have been on 'that side of the world' for over 8 years. You are crazy and stupid. You understand nothing.
So how do we stop Radical Islam then? Huh............The Gandhi approach..............that worked out so well didn't it?

Is "Ghandi" some sort of porn for you?

If I post a word like, say, "pacifism" do you cream your panties?
 
Terrorism does not equal Islam. It is two different things. Anyone who has half a brain and knows how to reason understands that. The people you are afraid of and don't like are terrorists who have hijacked Islam to justiify their acts. They do not represent Islam--they only say they do. There are 1.7 Muslims in the world; only a tiny, miniscule minority are terrorists or support terrorism. The rest of Islam does not support them and is as afraid of them as everyone else is. It is a fact, indeed, that the majority of people right now fighting against ISIS are Muslims. Get a grip on reallity instead of being influenced by fear mongering.
What a relief................only 1.7 of them............geesh.............

Most terrorism on the planet comes from What faith........Alex.???????

Terrorism doesn't come from "faith". It come from politics.
LOL

You obviously haven't been on that side of the world. Faith drives their politics.......Religion rules their life and their Governments there. That is based on their faith in Islam..........Under the Koran, the Radical elements are practicing the letter of the Koran in killing the unbelievers............

You are Naive.
I have been on 'that side of the world' for over 8 years. You are crazy and stupid. You understand nothing.
So how do we stop Radical Islam then? Huh............The Gandhi approach..............that worked out so well didn't it?
We stop it by continuing to resist it and to fight it. Again, the vast majority of the people fighting against ISIS are Muslims. They do not support such radicalism any more than anyone else does. It will end eventually, but as we know from history, such as European imperialism, it will not end overnight.
 
Terrorism does not equal Islam. It is two different things. Anyone who has half a brain and knows how to reason understands that. The people you are afraid of and don't like are terrorists who have hijacked Islam to justiify their acts. They do not represent Islam--they only say they do. There are 1.7 Muslims in the world; only a tiny, miniscule minority are terrorists or support terrorism. The rest of Islam does not support them and is as afraid of them as everyone else is. It is a fact, indeed, that the majority of people right now fighting against ISIS are Muslims. Get a grip on reallity instead of being influenced by fear mongering.
What a relief................only 1.7 of them............geesh.............

Most terrorism on the planet comes from What faith........Alex.???????

Terrorism doesn't come from "faith". It come from politics.
LOL

You obviously haven't been on that side of the world. Faith drives their politics.......Religion rules their life and their Governments there. That is based on their faith in Islam..........Under the Koran, the Radical elements are practicing the letter of the Koran in killing the unbelievers............

You are Naive.
I have been on 'that side of the world' for over 8 years. You are crazy and stupid. You understand nothing.
So how do we stop Radical Islam then? Huh............The Gandhi approach..............that worked out so well didn't it?

Ghandi was successful. His goal was to free India from the British Empire, and he did.
 
Terrorism does not equal Islam. It is two different things. Anyone who has half a brain and knows how to reason understands that. The people you are afraid of and don't like are terrorists who have hijacked Islam to justiify their acts. They do not represent Islam--they only say they do. There are 1.7 Muslims in the world; only a tiny, miniscule minority are terrorists or support terrorism. The rest of Islam does not support them and is as afraid of them as everyone else is. It is a fact, indeed, that the majority of people right now fighting against ISIS are Muslims. Get a grip on reallity instead of being influenced by fear mongering.
What a relief................only 1.7 of them............geesh.............

Most terrorism on the planet comes from What faith........Alex.???????

Terrorism doesn't come from "faith". It come from politics.
LOL

You obviously haven't been on that side of the world. Faith drives their politics.......Religion rules their life and their Governments there. That is based on their faith in Islam..........Under the Koran, the Radical elements are practicing the letter of the Koran in killing the unbelievers............

You are Naive.
I have been on 'that side of the world' for over 8 years. You are crazy and stupid. You understand nothing.

I have lived in 3 Muslim countries, worked with Muslims, lived with them as neighbors, socialized with them as friends, known them as colleagues, etc., for over 8 years. All the BS you think you know about the average Muslim is not true. You know nothing. You're a bigot and an idiot and supremely uniformed.

He seems to be desperately seeking a pretext for his aggression fantasies. Testosterone poisoning would be my diagnosis.

Ironic, considering he's pointing the finger elsewhere for ---- the same syndrome.
 
Why are you trying to conflate "religion" with "culture"?
Religion is part of their culture........Geesh...........You don't get it.

Religion and culture are separate entities.
By definition.
Period.

Don't try to rhetorically fuck with an Anthropologist. He'll whup you wid a switch made out of a linguistic branch.
Religion has no place in a people's culture.................

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

Pogo the new Gandhi..........with all the answers..........Go forth and show us the way Gandhi..........and WIN where he failed........Just remember a bullet proof vest and armed escort.

:rofl:

Ghandi didn't "fail". Unless your idea of "winning" is for nobody to ever disagree with you or some shit.
He failed in respect to the OP. Islam and Hindu's eventually moved from their homes in the respective of the countries of Pakistan and India. Primarily across RELIGIOUS LINES.

He Won in regards to removing British Colonialism and the creation of India. But spare me that he won over the conflict between Hindu and Muslim.

Video of India becoming a country.


Have you ever been to India, you fool. There are millions upon millions of Muslims living in India. You are, as I said, supremely ignorant and stupid. You've never been anywhere and think you know things that are not at all true.

This hate Muslims thread is tiresome. I'm leaving. I have no desire to discuss this issues with such bimbos.
 
Christianity in NO WAY compares to Islam.
Fools party.

Of course it does.

Monotheist, male-centered Middle Eastern medieval murmuring madness. They have all the "differences" of a Toyota and a Honda.
lol whatever pogo.
Christianity isn't a political system.
Christianity doesn't tell their followers to take over the world and force Christianity on the populace. When the people did that, they were interpreting it with greed.
Islam is the opposite. It tells you to kill, lie and you get rewarded for jihad.
Does Christianity reward people for murdering innocent people because they have a different outlook?
 
What a relief................only 1.7 of them............geesh.............

Most terrorism on the planet comes from What faith........Alex.???????

Terrorism doesn't come from "faith". It come from politics.
LOL

You obviously haven't been on that side of the world. Faith drives their politics.......Religion rules their life and their Governments there. That is based on their faith in Islam..........Under the Koran, the Radical elements are practicing the letter of the Koran in killing the unbelievers............

You are Naive.
I have been on 'that side of the world' for over 8 years. You are crazy and stupid. You understand nothing.
So how do we stop Radical Islam then? Huh............The Gandhi approach..............that worked out so well didn't it?

Ghandi was successful. His goal was to free India from the British Empire, and he did.

Moreover, and the way I had in mind, he remains a timeless inspiration.


"First they ignore you.
Then they laugh at you.
Then they attack you.
Then you win."

I'm always more interested in the spiritual than the politics. That seems to be over the head of the testosterone-drunk.
 
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what hypocrisy?

:wtf:

Obviously, the hypocrisy of claiming Entity A (in this case "Islam") is singularly responsible for X, Y and Z degradation elementally, while utterly ignoring that entity B (in this case Christianism) contains exactly the same elements. Therefore the causation is proven fallacious. Post Hoc fallacy, hi-test blend.

Want some cherries? Somebody picked a yuuuuge bushel here. :popcorn:
OT? LOL ok
Seems like all you did was change the subject so you might could "win" something but you didn't. We are talking about Islam. Besides, I am agnostic so I dont give a shit about other religions. We are talking about Islam.
Weren't you pretty overbearing on debate fallacies, just yesterday?
I don't cherry pick on religion. I am as strait as they come on this subject.
But when people want to talk about religion, and ignore certain aspects that are still practiced today; THAT would be cherry picking.

I don't either -- I'm not taking any side for or against either religion; I don't believe in either one. I'm just observing really bad logic, and pointing out that that's what it is.

And I'm not referring to you anyway, just explaining the earlier analogy of Leviticus and shit. They (the fallacists) like to point a finger at (what they imagine from Pam Geller is) the Qu'ran, while completely ignoring the Leviticusly Deuteronomous idiocy that is its absolute mirror.

As I always say in my advertising voiceover: "Having it both ways --- Priceless!"
My logic isn't bad. At all. In fact, it is nothing but truth.
The OT means NOTHING when we are discussing Islam. Because, obviously, it is a derailment.
Pogo, you are one smart guy. Seriously. From top to bottom. I enjoy 90% of your posts. But when you are discussing Islam, you are about as dishonest as they come. You even admitted to me you didn't know what sections I was referring to one day, and STILL continued to argue with me... You are too smart for that shit man.

Quote me summa this here "dishonesty", o my brother.
Im not looking for 10 posts from 2 or 3 weeks ago. lol
 
What a relief................only 1.7 of them............geesh.............

Most terrorism on the planet comes from What faith........Alex.???????

Terrorism doesn't come from "faith". It come from politics.
LOL

You obviously haven't been on that side of the world. Faith drives their politics.......Religion rules their life and their Governments there. That is based on their faith in Islam..........Under the Koran, the Radical elements are practicing the letter of the Koran in killing the unbelievers............

You are Naive.
I have been on 'that side of the world' for over 8 years. You are crazy and stupid. You understand nothing.
So how do we stop Radical Islam then? Huh............The Gandhi approach..............that worked out so well didn't it?

Ghandi was successful. His goal was to free India from the British Empire, and he did.
That was only one of his goals. The other was a unified India. 1 country. That failed. A 2 state solution happened and a slaughter in the middle of it.

Then Pakistan split again.....IN ANOTHER WAR.......and Bangladesh was formed. 1971. Again, Genocidal rape, torture, and murder in the process.

At least a million died in that split. Later another 300k to 3 million died in the creation of Bangladesh.

All over cultural and RELIGIOUS divides.
 
lol whatever pogo.
Christianity isn't a political system.
Christianity doesn't tell their followers to take over the world and force Christianity on the populace. When the people did that, they were interpreting it with greed.

Agreed, it isn't. Neither is Islam. I pointed all this out waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the thread, noting the intentional conflation of religion with politics.

And here it comes again:

Islam is the opposite. It tells you to kill, lie and you get rewarded for jihad.
Does Christianity reward people for murdering innocent people because they have a different outlook?

Not that I know of. Does Islam? Again, no. And again ----- what are we to do with all these cherries? Gonna draw fruit flies.
 
:wtf:

Obviously, the hypocrisy of claiming Entity A (in this case "Islam") is singularly responsible for X, Y and Z degradation elementally, while utterly ignoring that entity B (in this case Christianism) contains exactly the same elements. Therefore the causation is proven fallacious. Post Hoc fallacy, hi-test blend.

Want some cherries? Somebody picked a yuuuuge bushel here. :popcorn:
OT? LOL ok
Seems like all you did was change the subject so you might could "win" something but you didn't. We are talking about Islam. Besides, I am agnostic so I dont give a shit about other religions. We are talking about Islam.
Weren't you pretty overbearing on debate fallacies, just yesterday?
I don't cherry pick on religion. I am as strait as they come on this subject.
But when people want to talk about religion, and ignore certain aspects that are still practiced today; THAT would be cherry picking.

I don't either -- I'm not taking any side for or against either religion; I don't believe in either one. I'm just observing really bad logic, and pointing out that that's what it is.

And I'm not referring to you anyway, just explaining the earlier analogy of Leviticus and shit. They (the fallacists) like to point a finger at (what they imagine from Pam Geller is) the Qu'ran, while completely ignoring the Leviticusly Deuteronomous idiocy that is its absolute mirror.

As I always say in my advertising voiceover: "Having it both ways --- Priceless!"
My logic isn't bad. At all. In fact, it is nothing but truth.
The OT means NOTHING when we are discussing Islam. Because, obviously, it is a derailment.
Pogo, you are one smart guy. Seriously. From top to bottom. I enjoy 90% of your posts. But when you are discussing Islam, you are about as dishonest as they come. You even admitted to me you didn't know what sections I was referring to one day, and STILL continued to argue with me... You are too smart for that shit man.

Quote me summa this here "dishonesty", o my brother.
Im not looking for 10 posts from 2 or 3 weeks ago. lol

Instructive non-response. Very well not played. Beautifully not done anything about. :)
 
Terrorism does not equal Islam. It is two different things. Anyone who has half a brain and knows how to reason understands that. The people you are afraid of and don't like are terrorists who have hijacked Islam to justiify their acts. They do not represent Islam--they only say they do. There are 1.7 Muslims in the world; only a tiny, miniscule minority are terrorists or support terrorism. The rest of Islam does not support them and is as afraid of them as everyone else is. It is a fact, indeed, that the majority of people right now fighting against ISIS are Muslims. Get a grip on reallity instead of being influenced by fear mongering.
What a relief................only 1.7 of them............geesh.............

Most terrorism on the planet comes from What faith........Alex.???????

Terrorism doesn't come from "faith". It come from politics.
LOL

You obviously haven't been on that side of the world. Faith drives their politics.......Religion rules their life and their Governments there. That is based on their faith in Islam..........Under the Koran, the Radical elements are practicing the letter of the Koran in killing the unbelievers............

You are Naive.
I have been on 'that side of the world' for over 8 years. You are crazy and stupid. You understand nothing.

I have lived in 3 Muslim countries, worked with Muslims, lived with them as neighbors, socialized with them as friends, known them as colleagues, etc., for over 8 years. All the BS you think you know about the average Muslim is not true. You know nothing. You're a bigot and an idiot and supremely uniformed.

He seems to be desperately seeking a pretext for his aggression fantasies. Testosterone poisoning would be my diagnosis.

Ironic, considering he's pointing the finger elsewhere for ---- the same syndrome.
You refuse to accept that Radical Islam isn't a form of Islam..........which is your major malfunction.
The current fights of Muslim on Muslim are also over Religion. Shia versus Sunni versus eveyone. It is also about the balance of power over there primarily between these groups.

You REFUSE to see this RADICAL ELEMENT in the entire region. Refuse to see countries set up along RELIGIOUS lines............LIKE INDIA.............Where 15 MILLION were moved VIA RELIGION at it's creation. Yeah.........that's right............15 MILLION........Muslims heading West to Pakistan and Hindu's moving east to India.
 
Religion and culture are separate entities.
By definition.
Period.

Don't try to rhetorically fuck with an Anthropologist. He'll whup you wid a switch made out of a linguistic branch.
Religion has no place in a people's culture.................

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

Pogo the new Gandhi..........with all the answers..........Go forth and show us the way Gandhi..........and WIN where he failed........Just remember a bullet proof vest and armed escort.

:rofl:

Ghandi didn't "fail". Unless your idea of "winning" is for nobody to ever disagree with you or some shit.
He failed in respect to the OP. Islam and Hindu's eventually moved from their homes in the respective of the countries of Pakistan and India. Primarily across RELIGIOUS LINES.

He Won in regards to removing British Colonialism and the creation of India. But spare me that he won over the conflict between Hindu and Muslim.

Video of India becoming a country.



---- and the fact that you're completely head-in-the-sand oblivious to how the UK set that scene up WITH its colonialism (a paradigm repeated in countless other hot spots particularly in the ME and Africa) proves my earlier point that the distinction between religions and politics is as lost on you as is the distinction between religion and culture.

Thanks for playin' and be sure to play World Politics for Dummies at home. Minutes of fun for the whole family. Ages 14 and down.

You said Ghandi wasn't a failure............His position was for 1 STATE...............Did that happen?

He wanted the British rule gone..............and they did go...........but the division of the countries was based on the population of RELGION.........In the area of the GENOCIDE................the majority was Muslim...........and the remaining other ethnic groups were SLAUGHTERED BY MUSLIMS there............

15 Million were driven from their homes...from both sides.............and at least a million died.

The BORDERS were set PRIMARILY between RELIGIOUS LINES...........You are a BS artist and a FOOL.

Tell me the meaning of the Hindu Kursh mountains...............that would be a hoot.




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Religion has no place in a people's culture.................

:lmao::lmao::lmao::lmao:

Pogo the new Gandhi..........with all the answers..........Go forth and show us the way Gandhi..........and WIN where he failed........Just remember a bullet proof vest and armed escort.

:rofl:

Ghandi didn't "fail". Unless your idea of "winning" is for nobody to ever disagree with you or some shit.
He failed in respect to the OP. Islam and Hindu's eventually moved from their homes in the respective of the countries of Pakistan and India. Primarily across RELIGIOUS LINES.

He Won in regards to removing British Colonialism and the creation of India. But spare me that he won over the conflict between Hindu and Muslim.

Video of India becoming a country.



---- and the fact that you're completely head-in-the-sand oblivious to how the UK set that scene up WITH its colonialism (a paradigm repeated in countless other hot spots particularly in the ME and Africa) proves my earlier point that the distinction between religions and politics is as lost on you as is the distinction between religion and culture.

Thanks for playin' and be sure to play World Politics for Dummies at home. Minutes of fun for the whole family. Ages 14 and down.

You said Ghandi wasn't a failure............His position was for 1 STATE...............Did that happen?

He wanted the British rule gone..............and they did go...........but the division of the countries was based on the population of RELGION.........In the area of the GENOCIDE................the majority was Muslim...........and the remaining other ethnic groups were SLAUGHTERED BY MUSLIMS there............

15 Million were driven from their homes...from both sides.............and at least a million died.

The BORDERS were set PRIMARILY between RELIGIOUS LINES...........You are a BS artist and a FOOL.

Tell me the meaning of the Hindu Kursh mountains...............that would be a hoot.




Ellipses | Punctuation Rules


His elliptical connections got hold of Longknife's coffee supply .................................................................. :coffee:

I always wonder about wags who can't end a sentence.... like they're not done thinking yet..... and may never be.....
 
You refuse to accept that Radical Islam isn't a form of Islam....................

Correct. Because it's a form of politics. Which I already noted about eight million posts ago while you were going :lalala: and trolling eBay for bulk deals on more ellipses.

Is the Army of God a form of Christianism then? Is the Ku Klux Klan?
 
lol whatever pogo.
Christianity isn't a political system.
Christianity doesn't tell their followers to take over the world and force Christianity on the populace. When the people did that, they were interpreting it with greed.

Agreed, it isn't. Neither is Islam. I pointed all this out waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the thread, noting the intentional conflation of religion with politics.

And here it comes again:

Islam is the opposite. It tells you to kill, lie and you get rewarded for jihad.
Does Christianity reward people for murdering innocent people because they have a different outlook?

Not that I know of. Does Islam? Again, no. And again -----? Gonna draw fruit flies.
"Does Islam? Again, no."
So islam doesn't reward jihad with virgins with nice tits and don't bleed? REALLY? Do I need to start posting verses for you?
"what are we to do with all these cherries"
Who is cherry picking?
To say Islam isn't a political system slaps islam in the face. Considering the ONLY people that would say that are NON MUSLIMS
Why don't you actually try reading up on islam before sounding so ignorant? AGAIN, you are too smart for this shit.
 
OT? LOL ok
Seems like all you did was change the subject so you might could "win" something but you didn't. We are talking about Islam. Besides, I am agnostic so I dont give a shit about other religions. We are talking about Islam.
Weren't you pretty overbearing on debate fallacies, just yesterday?
I don't cherry pick on religion. I am as strait as they come on this subject.
But when people want to talk about religion, and ignore certain aspects that are still practiced today; THAT would be cherry picking.

I don't either -- I'm not taking any side for or against either religion; I don't believe in either one. I'm just observing really bad logic, and pointing out that that's what it is.

And I'm not referring to you anyway, just explaining the earlier analogy of Leviticus and shit. They (the fallacists) like to point a finger at (what they imagine from Pam Geller is) the Qu'ran, while completely ignoring the Leviticusly Deuteronomous idiocy that is its absolute mirror.

As I always say in my advertising voiceover: "Having it both ways --- Priceless!"
My logic isn't bad. At all. In fact, it is nothing but truth.
The OT means NOTHING when we are discussing Islam. Because, obviously, it is a derailment.
Pogo, you are one smart guy. Seriously. From top to bottom. I enjoy 90% of your posts. But when you are discussing Islam, you are about as dishonest as they come. You even admitted to me you didn't know what sections I was referring to one day, and STILL continued to argue with me... You are too smart for that shit man.

Quote me summa this here "dishonesty", o my brother.
Im not looking for 10 posts from 2 or 3 weeks ago. lol

Instructive non-response. Very well not played. Beautifully not done anything about. :)
im not looking up weeks old posts. FFS pogo, you are doing it in this thread!
"islam isn't a political system"
SAYS WHO?
They control justice, property, hygiene etc
The fuckin Salat is about socio-economic order.
 
You refuse to accept that Radical Islam isn't a form of Islam....................

Correct. Because it's a form of politics. Which I already noted about eight million posts ago while you were going :lalala: and trolling eBay for bulk deals on more ellipses.

Is the Army of God a form of Christianism then? Is the Ku Klux Klan?
As you deny that it is part of their culture as well.........Thanks for playing...........

To deny that makes you an Idiot..................I don't give a fuck about the spelling police here btw.........right a ticket and move on.
 

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