Islam and anti-Zionism are extreme opposites

[rylah]

The Jewish People never left the land.

They did become sovereign over a small part of their ancient homeland.

All some Muslims, and some Christians have to do is stop denying the Jewish right to their land, and spend more time teaching peace with the Jews, rather than hatred and destruction of this people.

Who knows what any god is waiting for.

The G-D of Abraham has allowed his people sovereignty over their ancient land.

What the gods of the Christians and Muslims think and do, is another matter. It is up to those two religions to under about, and decide when enough is enough of something which has been, and continues to be horrible on every level.

They represented about 3% of the population before the mass immigration took place.

They took the land by force of arms. So what if they say it is part of some ancient homeland.

Those who were driven out have every right to fight for the land they lost as well.

God had nothing to do with the 47-48 fight for land, that was all mankinds doing.

Again, for the thousandth time, the entire region was under Ottoman, not Arab rule for 700 years. The Arabs who were invaders themselves, had no say whatsoever. When the Ottoman Empire fell, 99% of it was divided into the nice little backwards-ass Muslim shitholes of oppression and intolerance that we see today. Less than 1% of the land was allocated to be Jewish homeland in the ancient, religious and ancestral land of the Jews. The Jews had always maintained a presence in their holyland throughout the millennia, and kept coming back, despite all the invasions and pogroms.

The greedy Arabs wanted it all and couldn't handle a non Muslim entity ruling ANY land in the Middle East. Their culture demanded that they oppress and persecute religious minorities.

Led by the Nazi Mufti, the Arabs launched a war against the Jews with the goal of committing a second holocaust on them in their own holy land. After a few massacres such as the Hebron massacre of 1929, the Jews took up arms and started defending themselves against the IslamoNazis, a civil war erupted, the Arabs lost, and continued to lose.

The Jews invaded Palestine from Europe starting in the mid to late 1800s. The native Muslims and Christians resisted the invasion the best they could, but when Britain became involved and undertook to support the Jewish colonjial project, it became difficult for the native people to resist against the world's most powerful colonial empire at the time.

The Ziofascist invaders always had the intention colonizing Palestine and of eliminating the Christians and Muslims.

At partition the greedy Jews received more than half of Palestine from the UN while representing less than a third of the population. And. to make matters worth, one third of the native Christian and Muslim population was left in the Jewish part of the partition and would be ruled by Jews though the Christians and Muslims together with the Bedouin inhabitants represented a majority in the Jewish part of the partition. These people, because of the foolishness of the UN, would never have the opportunity to achieve self-determination because of the UN's decision to support a European colonial project, rather than defend the rights of the native people as they were required to do.

So don't listen to Ruddy's bullshit.

UN didn't have the authority to create two countries.

They did not have the right, correct. But they did it anyway.

Did the UN create any country in Palestine? I think not, not the UN anyway...correct me if I'm wrong, but it were the people.

 

[Sixties Fan]

How long do we have to wait? I mean the Jews have returned to the land for what 70 years now? Is God waiting for the Arab States to recognize Israel before the Last Judgement? If that's God condition, I'm guessing that day is ah, never.

The Jewish People never left the land.

They did become sovereign over a small part of their ancient homeland.

All some Muslims, and some Christians have to do is stop denying the Jewish right to their land, and spend more time teaching peace with the Jews, rather than hatred and destruction of this people.

Who knows what any god is waiting for.

The G-D of Abraham has allowed his people sovereignty over their ancient land.

What the gods of the Christians and Muslims think and do, is another matter. It is up to those two religions to under about, and decide when enough is enough of something which has been, and continues to be horrible on every level.

They represented about 3% of the population before the mass immigration took place.

They took the land by force of arms. So what if they say it is part of some ancient homeland.

Those who were driven out have every right to fight for the land they lost as well.

God had nothing to do with the 47-48 fight for land, that was all mankinds doing.

Again, for the thousandth time, the entire region was under Ottoman, not Arab rule for 700 years. The Arabs who were invaders themselves, had no say whatsoever. When the Ottoman Empire fell, 99% of it was divided into the nice little backwards-ass Muslim shitholes of oppression and intolerance that we see today. Less than 1% of the land was allocated to be Jewish homeland in the ancient, religious and ancestral land of the Jews. The Jews had always maintained a presence in their holyland throughout the millennia, and kept coming back, despite all the invasions and pogroms.

The greedy Arabs wanted it all and couldn't handle a non Muslim entity ruling ANY land in the Middle East. Their culture demanded that they oppress and persecute religious minorities.

Led by the Nazi Mufti, the Arabs launched a war against the Jews with the goal of committing a second holocaust on them in their own holy land. After a few massacres such as the Hebron massacre of 1929, the Jews took up arms and started defending themselves against the IslamoNazis, a civil war erupted, the Arabs lost, and continued to lose.

The Jews invaded Palestine from Europe starting in the mid to late 1800s. The native Muslims and Christians resisted the invasion the best they could, but when Britain became involved and undertook to support the Jewish colonjial project, it became difficult for the native people to resist against the world's most powerful colonial empire at the time.

The Ziofascist invaders always had the intention colonizing Palestine and of eliminating the Christians and Muslims.

At partition the greedy Jews received more than half of Palestine from the UN while representing less than a third of the population. And. to make matters worth, one third of the native Christian and Muslim population was left in the Jewish part of the partition and would be ruled by Jews though the Christians and Muslims together with the Bedouin inhabitants represented a majority in the Jewish part of the partition. These people, because of the foolishness of the UN, would never have the opportunity to achieve self-determination because of the UN's decision to support a European colonial project, rather than defend the rights of the native people as they were required to do.

So don't listen to Ruddy's bullshit.

UN didn't have the authority to create two countries.

It was not the UN.
Do the research.
The UN took over from the League of Nations.

League of Nations mandate - Wikipedia

The League of Nations created the Mandates for Syria, Lebanon, Palestine (Israel) and Mesopotamia (Iraq)

If the League of Nations, after WWI, did not have the right to create the Mandate for Palestine, than it did not have the right to create the other three and all four Mandates must be dissolved, which means that Jordan must also be dissolved as a country.

Would that be your point?

 

[montelatici]

The Jewish People never left the land.

They did become sovereign over a small part of their ancient homeland.

All some Muslims, and some Christians have to do is stop denying the Jewish right to their land, and spend more time teaching peace with the Jews, rather than hatred and destruction of this people.

Who knows what any god is waiting for.

The G-D of Abraham has allowed his people sovereignty over their ancient land.

What the gods of the Christians and Muslims think and do, is another matter. It is up to those two religions to under about, and decide when enough is enough of something which has been, and continues to be horrible on every level.

They represented about 3% of the population before the mass immigration took place.

They took the land by force of arms. So what if they say it is part of some ancient homeland.

Those who were driven out have every right to fight for the land they lost as well.

God had nothing to do with the 47-48 fight for land, that was all mankinds doing.

Again, for the thousandth time, the entire region was under Ottoman, not Arab rule for 700 years. The Arabs who were invaders themselves, had no say whatsoever. When the Ottoman Empire fell, 99% of it was divided into the nice little backwards-ass Muslim shitholes of oppression and intolerance that we see today. Less than 1% of the land was allocated to be Jewish homeland in the ancient, religious and ancestral land of the Jews. The Jews had always maintained a presence in their holyland throughout the millennia, and kept coming back, despite all the invasions and pogroms.

The greedy Arabs wanted it all and couldn't handle a non Muslim entity ruling ANY land in the Middle East. Their culture demanded that they oppress and persecute religious minorities.

Led by the Nazi Mufti, the Arabs launched a war against the Jews with the goal of committing a second holocaust on them in their own holy land. After a few massacres such as the Hebron massacre of 1929, the Jews took up arms and started defending themselves against the IslamoNazis, a civil war erupted, the Arabs lost, and continued to lose.

The Jews invaded Palestine from Europe starting in the mid to late 1800s. The native Muslims and Christians resisted the invasion the best they could, but when Britain became involved and undertook to support the Jewish colonjial project, it became difficult for the native people to resist against the world's most powerful colonial empire at the time.

The Ziofascist invaders always had the intention colonizing Palestine and of eliminating the Christians and Muslims.

At partition the greedy Jews received more than half of Palestine from the UN while representing less than a third of the population. And. to make matters worth, one third of the native Christian and Muslim population was left in the Jewish part of the partition and would be ruled by Jews though the Christians and Muslims together with the Bedouin inhabitants represented a majority in the Jewish part of the partition. These people, because of the foolishness of the UN, would never have the opportunity to achieve self-determination because of the UN's decision to support a European colonial project, rather than defend the rights of the native people as they were required to do.

So don't listen to Ruddy's bullshit.

UN didn't have the authority to create two countries.

It was not the UN.
Do the research.
The UN took over from the League of Nations.

League of Nations mandate - Wikipedia

The League of Nations created the Mandates for Syria, Lebanon, Palestine (Israel) and Mesopotamia (Iraq)

If the League of Nations, after WWI, did not have the right to create the Mandate for Palestine, than it did not have the right to create the other three and all four Mandates must be dissolved, which means that Jordan must also be dissolved as a country.

Would that be your point?

The point is moron, that the mandates were required to adhere to the LON Covenant. The inhabitants of the said territories were not people living in Europe. The people who the LON Covenant was to protect and keep in trust their land were more than 90% Christian and Muslims in Palestine.

"ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

The best method of giving practical effect to this principle is that the tutelage of such peoples should be entrusted to advanced nations who by reason of their resources, their experience or their geographical position can best undertake this responsibility, and who are willing to accept it, and that this tutelage should be exercised by them as Mandatories on behalf of the League."

 

[rylah]

Same ol same ol and nothing on the topic?
Rich...

I guess Islam support for Zionism is a touchy subject for some Jew haters.

 

[montelatici]

Zionism is just another racist/nationalist/ethnic/religious centric ideology. Nothing about hating Jews, just as hating Nazism does not imply hating Germans.

 

[rylah]

Usual neurotic blabbing from a parrot who has nothing to say on the topic...
but at the same breath calls for genocide of all non-Christians in Jerusalem.

You know Quran supports the notion of Jews living in Israel, that's why You can't hold it.

 

[montelatici]

Well, you are a true Hasbara propaganda shill. I know nothing about the Koran except that is a bunch of nonsense, like the Jew bible.
A return to a Christian Jerusalem, would be a good thing, no genocide, of course. Deus Vult.

 

[aris2chat]

They represented about 3% of the population before the mass immigration took place.

They took the land by force of arms. So what if they say it is part of some ancient homeland.

Those who were driven out have every right to fight for the land they lost as well.

God had nothing to do with the 47-48 fight for land, that was all mankinds doing.

Again, for the thousandth time, the entire region was under Ottoman, not Arab rule for 700 years. The Arabs who were invaders themselves, had no say whatsoever. When the Ottoman Empire fell, 99% of it was divided into the nice little backwards-ass Muslim shitholes of oppression and intolerance that we see today. Less than 1% of the land was allocated to be Jewish homeland in the ancient, religious and ancestral land of the Jews. The Jews had always maintained a presence in their holyland throughout the millennia, and kept coming back, despite all the invasions and pogroms.

The greedy Arabs wanted it all and couldn't handle a non Muslim entity ruling ANY land in the Middle East. Their culture demanded that they oppress and persecute religious minorities.

Led by the Nazi Mufti, the Arabs launched a war against the Jews with the goal of committing a second holocaust on them in their own holy land. After a few massacres such as the Hebron massacre of 1929, the Jews took up arms and started defending themselves against the IslamoNazis, a civil war erupted, the Arabs lost, and continued to lose.

The Jews invaded Palestine from Europe starting in the mid to late 1800s. The native Muslims and Christians resisted the invasion the best they could, but when Britain became involved and undertook to support the Jewish colonjial project, it became difficult for the native people to resist against the world's most powerful colonial empire at the time.

The Ziofascist invaders always had the intention colonizing Palestine and of eliminating the Christians and Muslims.

At partition the greedy Jews received more than half of Palestine from the UN while representing less than a third of the population. And. to make matters worth, one third of the native Christian and Muslim population was left in the Jewish part of the partition and would be ruled by Jews though the Christians and Muslims together with the Bedouin inhabitants represented a majority in the Jewish part of the partition. These people, because of the foolishness of the UN, would never have the opportunity to achieve self-determination because of the UN's decision to support a European colonial project, rather than defend the rights of the native people as they were required to do.

So don't listen to Ruddy's bullshit.

UN didn't have the authority to create two countries.

They did not have the right, correct. But they did it anyway.

Did the UN create any country in Palestine? I think not, not the UN anyway...correct me if I'm wrong, but it were the people.

There is not "country" of palestine, never was. It is yet to exist. The two state solution so many are working for is intended to create such a state, but Abbas again rejected negotiations.

Palestine or it's latin origin was a roman invention to mock the jews. Provence, tax areas, sanjuks, even semi-autonomous states, mandate, but no country of palestine. It was a general region like africa or middle east, not a state. It was occupied by a dozen countries and empires, but it was never a nation.

People are trying to help them to create one, but they must make peace with Israel and come to some negotiated agreement for that to happen.

 

[Roudy]

Zionism is just another racist/nationalist/ethnic/religious centric ideology. Nothing about hating Jews, just as hating Nazism does not imply hating Germans.

Considering that Anti-Zionism is a club for all the antisemites, racists, neo Nazis, Islamofacists, terrorist lovers, anti-Americanism, anarchists, anti-capitalists, socialists, and basically all the scum of the world that has gathered under this "anti-Zionist" umbrella of failures, psychos and degenerates.

 

[Roudy]

Well, you are a true Hasbara propaganda shill. I know nothing about the Koran except that is a bunch of nonsense, like the Jew bible.
A return to a Christian Jerusalem, would be a good thing, no genocide, of course. Deus Vult.

What a maroon! The "Jew Bible" is what Jesus the devout Jew practiced his religion from. There was no Christian Bible until after his death. Yet another sign of the depth of your bigotry and mental illness. All three books, including the "Christian Bible" are Zionist.

 

[Roudy]

They represented about 3% of the population before the mass immigration took place.

They took the land by force of arms. So what if they say it is part of some ancient homeland.

Those who were driven out have every right to fight for the land they lost as well.

God had nothing to do with the 47-48 fight for land, that was all mankinds doing.

Again, for the thousandth time, the entire region was under Ottoman, not Arab rule for 700 years. The Arabs who were invaders themselves, had no say whatsoever. When the Ottoman Empire fell, 99% of it was divided into the nice little backwards-ass Muslim shitholes of oppression and intolerance that we see today. Less than 1% of the land was allocated to be Jewish homeland in the ancient, religious and ancestral land of the Jews. The Jews had always maintained a presence in their holyland throughout the millennia, and kept coming back, despite all the invasions and pogroms.

The greedy Arabs wanted it all and couldn't handle a non Muslim entity ruling ANY land in the Middle East. Their culture demanded that they oppress and persecute religious minorities.

Led by the Nazi Mufti, the Arabs launched a war against the Jews with the goal of committing a second holocaust on them in their own holy land. After a few massacres such as the Hebron massacre of 1929, the Jews took up arms and started defending themselves against the IslamoNazis, a civil war erupted, the Arabs lost, and continued to lose.

The Jews invaded Palestine from Europe starting in the mid to late 1800s. The native Muslims and Christians resisted the invasion the best they could, but when Britain became involved and undertook to support the Jewish colonjial project, it became difficult for the native people to resist against the world's most powerful colonial empire at the time.

The Ziofascist invaders always had the intention colonizing Palestine and of eliminating the Christians and Muslims.

At partition the greedy Jews received more than half of Palestine from the UN while representing less than a third of the population. And. to make matters worth, one third of the native Christian and Muslim population was left in the Jewish part of the partition and would be ruled by Jews though the Christians and Muslims together with the Bedouin inhabitants represented a majority in the Jewish part of the partition. These people, because of the foolishness of the UN, would never have the opportunity to achieve self-determination because of the UN's decision to support a European colonial project, rather than defend the rights of the native people as they were required to do.

So don't listen to Ruddy's bullshit.

UN didn't have the authority to create two countries.

Ottoman empire was divided between France and Britain. They were tasked to divide the region into states by LoN and later the UN

France and Britain were not the only allies, but according the LON they were to hold the former Turkish territories in trus for the inhabitants. The inhabitants at the time of writing were more than 90% Christians and Muslims. It was not to be held in trust for people inhabiting Europe.

ARTICLE 22.
To those colonies and territories which as a consequence of the late war have ceased to be under the sovereignty of the States which formerly governed them and which are inhabited by peoples not yet able to stand by themselves under the strenuous conditions of the modern world, there should be applied the principle that the well-being and development of such peoples form a sacred trust of civilisation and that securities for the performance of this trust should be embodied in this Covenant.

The best method of giving practical effect to this principle is that the tutelage of such peoples should be entrusted to advanced nations who by reason of their resources, their experience or their geographical position can best undertake this responsibility, and who are willing to accept it, and that this tutelage should be exercised by them as Mandatories on behalf of the League.

Avalon Project - The Covenant of the League of Nations

Yawn...back to the same old same old spamming.

 

[Roudy]

How long do we have to wait? I mean the Jews have returned to the land for what 70 years now? Is God waiting for the Arab States to recognize Israel before the Last Judgement? If that's God condition, I'm guessing that day is ah, never.

The Jewish People never left the land.

They did become sovereign over a small part of their ancient homeland.

All some Muslims, and some Christians have to do is stop denying the Jewish right to their land, and spend more time teaching peace with the Jews, rather than hatred and destruction of this people.

Who knows what any god is waiting for.

The G-D of Abraham has allowed his people sovereignty over their ancient land.

What the gods of the Christians and Muslims think and do, is another matter. It is up to those two religions to under about, and decide when enough is enough of something which has been, and continues to be horrible on every level.

They represented about 3% of the population before the mass immigration took place.

They took the land by force of arms. So what if they say it is part of some ancient homeland.

Those who were driven out have every right to fight for the land they lost as well.

God had nothing to do with the 47-48 fight for land, that was all mankinds doing.

Again, for the thousandth time, the entire region was under Ottoman, not Arab rule for 700 years. The Arabs who were invaders themselves, had no say whatsoever. When the Ottoman Empire fell, 99% of it was divided into the nice little backwards-ass Muslim shitholes of oppression and intolerance that we see today. Less than 1% of the land was allocated to be Jewish homeland in the ancient, religious and ancestral land of the Jews. The Jews had always maintained a presence in their holyland throughout the millennia, and kept coming back, despite all the invasions and pogroms.

The greedy Arabs wanted it all and couldn't handle a non Muslim entity ruling ANY land in the Middle East. Their culture demanded that they oppress and persecute religious minorities.

Led by the Nazi Mufti, the Arabs launched a war against the Jews with the goal of committing a second holocaust on them in their own holy land. After a few massacres such as the Hebron massacre of 1929, the Jews took up arms and started defending themselves against the IslamoNazis, a civil war erupted, the Arabs lost, and continued to lose.

The Jews invaded Palestine from Europe starting in the mid to late 1800s. The native Muslims and Christians resisted the invasion the best they could, but when Britain became involved and undertook to support the Jewish colonjial project, it became difficult for the native people to resist against the world's most powerful colonial empire at the time.

The Ziofascist invaders always had the intention colonizing Palestine and of eliminating the Christians and Muslims.

At partition the greedy Jews received more than half of Palestine from the UN while representing less than a third of the population. And. to make matters worth, one third of the native Christian and Muslim population was left in the Jewish part of the partition and would be ruled by Jews though the Christians and Muslims together with the Bedouin inhabitants represented a majority in the Jewish part of the partition. These people, because of the foolishness of the UN, would never have the opportunity to achieve self-determination because of the UN's decision to support a European colonial project, rather than defend the rights of the native people as they were required to do.

So don't listen to Ruddy's bullshit.

Nah, you're the one thats alway's fulla shit. The Muslims are the invaders of the holy land of the Jews. I have posted solid evidence that there were thriving Jewish communities and immigration from the 1200's to the 1800's where the Jews became a majority in many of the cities. And there's also evidence of Jewish communities even before. Besides Islam and Arabs arrived to Israel thousands of years after Judaism and Isrsel, there is no other way, even chronologically that Muslims are not the invaders.

Even the Muslim Ottoman Turks who ruled the region for the last 700 years recognized that according to the Koran Israel is the Jewish holy land, which is why they invited the Jews who were escaping the Inquisitions and Crusades to migrate to Israel.

 

[BlindBoo]

They were tasked to divide the region into states by LoN and later the UN

They did not have the right, correct. But they did it anyway.

The vote in 47 was in the General Assembly, not the Security Council. Furthermore the UN has no military and relies on member states to enforce it's resolutions. The British wanted out. What nation was going to send in it's troops to enforce the Partition Plan? It was decided by the folks on the ground not in the UN. That vote and the rumors about it certainly played a part in the violence, but it did not establish any State.

 

[Sixties Fan]

They were tasked to divide the region into states by LoN and later the UN

They did not have the right, correct. But they did it anyway.

The vote in 47 was in the General Assembly, not the Security Council. Furthermore the UN has no military and relies on member states to enforce it's resolutions. The British wanted out. What nation was going to send in it's troops to enforce the Partition Plan? It was decided by the folks on the ground not in the UN. That vote and the rumors about it certainly played a part in the violence, but it did not establish any State.

The British never wanted out.
They were forced out.
The British disregarded Article 5 of the Mandate for Palestine, where no part of that Mandate was to be leased or given to any foreign power and gave 77% of that land to the Hashemite clan in 1925. Check how long the Hashemites had been in TransJordan and ask yourself Why was this clan given 77% of the Jewish Homeland.
All for the sake of oil, and hatred of Jews.

In order for the Partition Plan to be enforced, both sides needed to accept the Partition.
The Jews accepted it.
The Arabs did not.

Therefore the Partition never did go into effect, because one side rejected the offer, just as the Arabs rejected the offer in 1937.

The UN vote had nothing to do with the Arab leaders not accepting the Partition offer.

Arabs are Muslims. Muslims never give up any land they have once conquered, no matter who the conqueror had been, this time the Ottomans for 500 years.

Muslims cannot allow non Muslims to gain sovereignty over any land once conquered by Muslims.
Much less Jews, who they consider less than humans, as proven again and again in the Muslim treatment of Jews for the 1300 years since the 7th Century.

Knowing the real facts as to why Arab leaders (not the whole Arab population) cannot, and will not accept a Jewish State on Jewish Ancient land, helps.

The Jews worked for a State, created infrastructure, etc and when ready, they did create a State.

The Arabs wanted the whole land for themselves, and not for a new State called Palestine, but to be part of Syria. They considered themselves as part of Greater Syria.