Isis: In Iraq Because Of Obama

[georgephillip]

ISIS is getting the shit bombed out of them as we speak because of Obama ..

go ahead, blame it on Obama.

Some would blame Obama for spending the last year creating ISIS; do you think they're wrong?

 

[Siete]

ISIS is getting the shit bombed out of them as we speak because of Obama ..

go ahead, blame it on Obama.

Some would blame Obama for spending the last year creating ISIS; do you think they're wrong?

morons blame Obama for taking a piss in the morning ..

 

[PoliticalChic]

Obama advised against Bu$hCo invading vietraq for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that it would divert enormous amts of taxpayer resources (which it did) to def contractor coffers and their congress critter pockets (wealth redistribution upwards) and away from investments in infrastructure, education, nutrition, Research & Development, ect..., etc...

what don't you "get" about that OP ?

Who is the President.....and has been for six loooooonnnng years?

Who refused to leave enough American troops in Iraq to counterbalance Iran, to stop ISIS?

What don't you 'get' about the vision for the future that one should expect in a President?

Either he is incompetent....or he is a force behind groups like ISIS.
Which is it?

President Bush is the one who signed the SOFA that removed all our troops. It can't be denied.

His invasion and occupation of Iraq was a monumental strategic blunder. Epic blunder.

That's a lie as proven so in post # 252

 

[georgephillip]

ISIS is getting the shit bombed out of them as we speak because of Obama ..

go ahead, blame it on Obama.

Some would blame Obama for spending the last year creating ISIS; do you think they're wrong?

morons blame Obama for taking a piss in the morning ..

If Obama has spent the last year using the CIA to create the Islamic State in order to restart the war in Iraq and Syria, he deserves to be impeached.

 

[Dot Com]

Obama advised against Bu$hCo invading vietraq for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that it would divert enormous amts of taxpayer resources (which it did) to def contractor coffers and their congress critter pockets (wealth redistribution upwards) and away from investments in infrastructure, education, nutrition, Research & Development, ect..., etc...

what don't you "get" about that OP ?

Who is the President.....and has been for six loooooonnnng years?

Who refused to leave enough American troops in Iraq to counterbalance Iran, to stop ISIS?

What don't you 'get' about the vision for the future that one should expect in a President?

Either he is incompetent....or he is a force behind groups like ISIS.
Which is it?

President Bush is the one who signed the SOFA that removed all our troops. It can't be denied.

His invasion and occupation of Iraq was a monumental strategic blunder. Epic blunder.

Don't cite facts. You'll just confuse OP.

 

[Siete]

ISIS is getting the shit bombed out of them as we speak because of Obama ..

go ahead, blame it on Obama.

Some would blame Obama for spending the last year creating ISIS; do you think they're wrong?

morons blame Obama for taking a piss in the morning ..

If Obama has spent the last year using the CIA to create the Islamic State in order to restart the war in Iraq and Syria, he deserves to be impeached.

"if" is a big word, are you sure you understand it?

 

[TemplarKormac]

ISIS is getting the shit bombed out of them as we speak because of Obama ..

go ahead, blame it on Obama.

Perhaps you should reread the OP. It was because Obama rejected the SOFA that he is there "bombing the shit out of ISIS as we speak." His own complacency caused this situation to spiral out of control.

Newsflash: Nouri al-Maliki asked the US to leave 5-10,000 residual troops in Iraq, yet Obama refused.

On a side note, when Bush wages war, Bush bad, when Obama wages war, Obama good! Give me a freaking break:

 

[georgephillip]

ISIS is getting the shit bombed out of them as we speak because of Obama ..

go ahead, blame it on Obama.

Some would blame Obama for spending the last year creating ISIS; do you think they're wrong?

morons blame Obama for taking a piss in the morning ..

If Obama has spent the last year using the CIA to create the Islamic State in order to restart the war in Iraq and Syria, he deserves to be impeached.

"if" is a big word, are you sure you understand it?

I'm sure very few elected Republicans AND Democrats will raise the issue in spite of the CIA's four decade-long history of funding, training, and arming some of the most viscous, rabid fundamentalists in all of Islam.

"ISIS, Iranian leaders have been saying for a long time, is made-in-the-U.S.A., a tool of terror intended by the world’s superpower to divide and conquer the energy-rich Middle East and to counter the growing influence of Iran in the region."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/11/w...an-believe-is-an-american-invention.html?_r=0

 

[georgephillip]

ISIS is getting the shit bombed out of them as we speak because of Obama ..

go ahead, blame it on Obama.

Perhaps you should reread the OP. It was because Obama rejected the SOFA that he is there "bombing the shit out of ISIS as we speak." His own complacency caused this situation to spiral out of control.

Newsflash: Nouri al-Maliki asked the US to leave 5-10,000 residual troops in Iraq, yet Obama refused.

On a side note, when Bush wages war, Bush bad, when Obama wages war, Obama good! Give me a freaking break:

Did you notice a majority of Iraqis were sick to death of US boots on the ground killing their children, maiming their old people, and incarcerating their young men, or do you trust in American Exceptionalism?

 

[TemplarKormac]

ISIS is getting the shit bombed out of them as we speak because of Obama ..

go ahead, blame it on Obama.

Perhaps you should reread the OP. It was because Obama rejected the SOFA that he is there "bombing the shit out of ISIS as we speak." His own complacency caused this situation to spiral out of control.

Newsflash: Nouri al-Maliki asked the US to leave 5-10,000 residual troops in Iraq, yet Obama refused.

On a side note, when Bush wages war, Bush bad, when Obama wages war, Obama good! Give me a freaking break:

Did you notice a majority of Iraqis were sick to death of US boots on the ground killing their children, maiming their old people, and incarcerating their young men, or do you trust in American Exceptionalism?

Is there something wrong with American Exceptionalism? When the President of Iraq asks the most powerful man on Earth to keep some residual troops on the ground in his own country, it wasn't because of American Exceptionalism, it was a man trying to keep his people safe. So, why did Obama resist the pleas of President Maliki? The man clearly wanted to keep some troops there.

Can you for the life of you prove that our troops were doing any of those things you mentioned? Seriously? ISIS does those very same things to the civilians in Iraq and Syria, yet you don't speak out against it. Why is that?

Spare me the hypocrisy, george.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Obama advised against Bu$hCo invading vietraq for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that it would divert enormous amts of taxpayer resources (which it did) to def contractor coffers and their congress critter pockets (wealth redistribution upwards) and away from investments in infrastructure, education, nutrition, Research & Development, ect..., etc...

what don't you "get" about that OP ?

Who is the President.....and has been for six loooooonnnng years?

Who refused to leave enough American troops in Iraq to counterbalance Iran, to stop ISIS?

What don't you 'get' about the vision for the future that one should expect in a President?

Either he is incompetent....or he is a force behind groups like ISIS.
Which is it?

President Bush is the one who signed the SOFA that removed all our troops. It can't be denied.

His invasion and occupation of Iraq was a monumental strategic blunder. Epic blunder.

Correct.


Prior to Bush's failed, unwarranted invasion, Iraq was governed by Sunnis, who lost control of the government after Saddam was overthrown.


ISIS consists of Sunni militants seeking to take back control of what they perceive to be their government and country, an insurgency that would not have manifested had the idiot Bush not interfered.

 

[Londoner]

Obama was offered the opportunity to work out a Status of Forces agreement with Iraq...but really didn't want to leave the 10,000 troops that Maliki wanted in place.

BARBERO: And my response was, you must make it easy for us. So I think Maliki did not make it easy for us and we did not try hard enough. So it's a -- both views. I think it could have been done though.

Political Chic,

Do you know what he means by Maliki didn't make it easy, because it is well known that Bush's Maliki government didn't want what Barbero conveniently says was possible.

Yes it was possible if we disregarded the power and sovereignty of the free Iraqi government put in place by Bush.

Freedom is on the march!

 

[TemplarKormac]

I'm sure very few elected Republicans AND Democrats will raise the issue in spite of the CIA's four decade-long history of funding, training, and arming some of the most viscous, rabid fundamentalists in all of Islam.

"ISIS, Iranian leaders have been saying for a long time, is made-in-the-U.S.A., a tool of terror intended by the world’s superpower to divide and conquer the energy-rich Middle East and to counter the growing influence of Iran in the region."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/11/w...an-believe-is-an-american-invention.html?_r=0

Such a statement by the overtly liberal NYTimes is a testament to the liberal revulsion to the US dependence on oil, plus their staunch positions on climate change. The fact the NYTimes has to cite the words of the enemy means they are purely desperate.

Oh yeah, if that were true, Obama is apart of that vicious cycle; as he wishes to arm the Syrian Free Army and train them. Looks like he is doing the same exact thing.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Obama was offered the opportunity to work out a Status of Forces agreement with Iraq...but really didn't want to leave the 10,000 troops that Maliki wanted in place.

BARBERO: And my response was, you must make it easy for us. So I think Maliki did not make it easy for us and we did not try hard enough. So it's a -- both views. I think it could have been done though.

Political Chic,

Do you know what he means by Maliki didn't make it easy, because it is well known that Bush's Maliki government didn't want what Barbero conveniently says was possible.

Yes it was possible if we disregarded the power and sovereignty of the free Iraqi government put in place by Bush.

Freedom is on the march!

Not at all, you dope.

Obama had the option.

Obama has done his best to remove every secular government in the Middle East and allow Islamists to fill the void.

BTW....Turkey was working on a deal to bring US weapons to ISIS, then called 'rebels,' the night they met with Stevens in Benghazi....before he was killed.

See if you can connect the dots.

 

[TemplarKormac]

Obama was offered the opportunity to work out a Status of Forces agreement with Iraq...but really didn't want to leave the 10,000 troops that Maliki wanted in place.

BARBERO: And my response was, you must make it easy for us. So I think Maliki did not make it easy for us and we did not try hard enough. So it's a -- both views. I think it could have been done though.

Political Chic,

Do you know what he means by Maliki didn't make it easy, because it is well known that Bush's Maliki government didn't want what Barbero conveniently says was possible.

Yes it was possible if we disregarded the power and sovereignty of the free Iraqi government put in place by Bush.

Freedom is on the march!

Bush did a better job of establishing a stable government in Iraq. They had free elections in 05, 09, and last year. But oh hey, lets just tear down everything that means anything to the Iraqis. You don't realize the significance of what Bush accomplished there. Maliki was acting as the president of a sovereign nation, not as a puppet of a US President.

 

[Dot Com]

Obama advised against Bu$hCo invading vietraq for a variety of reasons, not the least of which is that it would divert enormous amts of taxpayer resources (which it did) to def contractor coffers and their congress critter pockets (wealth redistribution upwards) and away from investments in infrastructure, education, nutrition, Research & Development, ect..., etc...

what don't you "get" about that OP ?

Who is the President.....and has been for six loooooonnnng years?

Who refused to leave enough American troops in Iraq to counterbalance Iran, to stop ISIS?

What don't you 'get' about the vision for the future that one should expect in a President?

Either he is incompetent....or he is a force behind groups like ISIS.
Which is it?

President Bush is the one who signed the SOFA that removed all our troops. It can't be denied.

His invasion and occupation of Iraq was a monumental strategic blunder. Epic blunder.

Don't cite facts. You'll just confuse OP.

 

[Dot Com]

If someone in the Repub party heirarchy were watching this zany thread they'd be like don't drag up Bu$hCo's failed policies that led us directly to where we are today.

To recap, the U.S. spent $17,000,000,000 of BORROWED TAXPAYER $$$, on training Iraqi troops and they turned and ran, like a repub from a recruiter, at the drop of a hat.
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[georgephillip]

I'm sure very few elected Republicans AND Democrats will raise the issue in spite of the CIA's four decade-long history of funding, training, and arming some of the most viscous, rabid fundamentalists in all of Islam.

"ISIS, Iranian leaders have been saying for a long time, is made-in-the-U.S.A., a tool of terror intended by the world’s superpower to divide and conquer the energy-rich Middle East and to counter the growing influence of Iran in the region."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/11/w...an-believe-is-an-american-invention.html?_r=0

Such a statement by the overtly liberal NYTimes is a testament to the liberal revulsion to the US dependence on oil, plus their staunch positions on climate change. The fact the NYTimes has to cite the words of the enemy means they are purely desperate.

Oh yeah, if that were true, Obama is apart of that vicious cycle; as he wishes to arm the Syrian Free Army and train them. Looks like he is doing the same exact thing.

Obama's plan calls for Saudi Arabia to train "moderate" Syrian resistance fighters; do you believe SA is less of an enemy to Democracy than Iran? BTW, Obama and every other elected Republican AND Democrat in DC is part of that vicious circle of eternal war and debt.

 

[georgephillip]

ISIS is getting the shit bombed out of them as we speak because of Obama ..

go ahead, blame it on Obama.

Perhaps you should reread the OP. It was because Obama rejected the SOFA that he is there "bombing the shit out of ISIS as we speak." His own complacency caused this situation to spiral out of control.

Newsflash: Nouri al-Maliki asked the US to leave 5-10,000 residual troops in Iraq, yet Obama refused.

On a side note, when Bush wages war, Bush bad, when Obama wages war, Obama good! Give me a freaking break:

Did you notice a majority of Iraqis were sick to death of US boots on the ground killing their children, maiming their old people, and incarcerating their young men, or do you trust in American Exceptionalism?

Is there something wrong with American Exceptionalism? When the President of Iraq asks the most powerful man on Earth to keep some residual troops on the ground in his own country, it wasn't because of American Exceptionalism, it was a man trying to keep his people safe. So, why did Obama resist the pleas of President Maliki? The man clearly wanted to keep some troops there.

Can you for the life of you prove that our troops were doing any of those things you mentioned? Seriously? ISIS does those very same things to the civilians in Iraq and Syria, yet you don't speak out against it. Why is that?

Spare me the hypocrisy, george.

The President of Iraq was a US puppet asking his master to violate the will of 75% of the Iraqi population who wanted ALL US troops out of Iraq PERMANENTLY.

If you're honestly confused about the misery the US has inflicted upon the people of the Middle East, Google Fallujah, Hiroshima, and cancer rates.

 

[TemplarKormac]

ISIS is getting the shit bombed out of them as we speak because of Obama ..

go ahead, blame it on Obama.

Perhaps you should reread the OP. It was because Obama rejected the SOFA that he is there "bombing the shit out of ISIS as we speak." His own complacency caused this situation to spiral out of control.

Newsflash: Nouri al-Maliki asked the US to leave 5-10,000 residual troops in Iraq, yet Obama refused.

On a side note, when Bush wages war, Bush bad, when Obama wages war, Obama good! Give me a freaking break:

Did you notice a majority of Iraqis were sick to death of US boots on the ground killing their children, maiming their old people, and incarcerating their young men, or do you trust in American Exceptionalism?

Is there something wrong with American Exceptionalism? When the President of Iraq asks the most powerful man on Earth to keep some residual troops on the ground in his own country, it wasn't because of American Exceptionalism, it was a man trying to keep his people safe. So, why did Obama resist the pleas of President Maliki? The man clearly wanted to keep some troops there.

Can you for the life of you prove that our troops were doing any of those things you mentioned? Seriously? ISIS does those very same things to the civilians in Iraq and Syria, yet you don't speak out against it. Why is that?

Spare me the hypocrisy, george.

The President of Iraq was a US puppet asking his master to violate the will of 75% of the Iraqi population who wanted ALL US troops out of Iraq PERMANENTLY.

If you're honestly confused about the misery the US has inflicted upon the people of the Middle East, Google Fallujah, Hiroshima, and cancer rates.

Fallujah is now controlled by ISIS, Hiroshima is irrelevant to this discussion.

If you're honestly confused about the misery ISIS has inflicted upon the people of the Middle East, look no further than the thousands of people who died by their hands.

Would a US puppet willfully set terms for the SOFA? No. Maliki was dictating terms to the US for possibly retaining troops in his country. That means he was in full control of his government at that time.

You Democrats claim to be people of compassion, but when it comes to helping our allies, you are whining about how bad the US is. Give me a break. When someone, anyone, asks for our help, do we sit there and say no? Do we let our politics get in the way of our obligations to help people in need?