Is this "right and just" to you: the filthy rich get richer while the can't-get-anywhere poor get poorer

I guess we should all just pretend that most husbands are angels toward their wives?
Excuse me? Unsubstantiated blanket statements seem to be your forte. Please link to the reputable source that states MOST husbands are domestic abusers. Run along, your thread just scraped the bottom of your jaded sewer. You have an agenda and it isn't playing well.
 
Prove what? You stated that you share. Prove it. How many homeless have you welcomed into your home? The rich make it very clear when they do something humanitarian--its good press. Do your own research. Did your drug addicted mate beat you today? Is that why you are ready to vilify MOST husbands everywhere and hold all homeless blameless for their plight?
 
Interesting thread you got here OP.

Let me ask you this...

What do you think is the biggest reason the rich gets richer?

Same for why the poor gets poorer?
That one is easy, and the answer is the same for both.

The rich man's wealth is his strong city: the destruction of the poor is their poverty. Proverbs 10:15

That is the way the entire American economic, legal, and political system is structured. To enhance the strength of the wealthy, exacerbate the destruction rendered by poverty. I mean I wish I could say that it is a recent thing, wish I could blame Republicans, Ronald Reagan, conservatives. But I can't because that is the way it has been FROM THE GET GO.

Take our Health Care System. Probably the only fully developed country in the world that has a free market based health care system, as if that was even economically possible. Why? So the poor can stay poor and the sick can die broke. Because what does that mean, the rich get richer.

Social Security, what a flippin Ponzi scam. I mean you structure something like that you end up like Bernie Maldoff. But the government, they can do it. Why is there a "cap" on earnings subject to the FICA tax? It is horseshit. Unearned income, let that phrase settle, "UNEARNED INCOME", is taxed less than earned income. WTF? So, I go out and bust my ass and "earn" income, I pay more in taxes than some fatass rich cat that sits on his ass and collects "unearned income"? Seriously? The example I use is the ditch diggers and the shovels. If you tax the ditch diggers more than you tax the dudes renting the shovels pretty soon, no one wants to dig ditches and everyone wants to rent out shovels. Can you say labor participation rate?

But let me conclude by explaining how it has always been that way. During the Revolutionary war armies would stroll on to a farm, mostly state militias, and take some corn, or some cows, gunpowder, even "arms", from the person that owned the farm. Then they would write out an IOU, it is called Continental Script, and as an avid and lifelong numismatist, I have a nice collection.

After the war things were tough. It is laughable that people complain about inflation and the economy now. It was bad. Farms were in disrepair, crops failed because they went unattended as males flocked together to fight off the mighty British army. And state governments were dead dog broke. To begin the reconstruction those farmers needed money, badly. Seed, feed for their mules, hell even food to feed their families. So they sold those "scripts" to people like George Washington and Alexander Hamilton. Sold them for pennies on the dollar.

Then, after the Second Continental Congress, the passing of the Constitution, one of the very first acts of Congress was to pass a bill introduced by Hamilton to pay for those scripts, dollar for d, ollar. The funds were to come from the Whiskey tax. I mean talk about adding insult to injury. Those farmers that sold those scripts for pennies on the dollar, well now, the one way they had to turn their crops into cash revenue that wasn't perishable, was being taxed. And how that very tax was structured is just another story, for another time, that reflects the entire premise of this thread.

But think about it. Those hard worker farmers, that fought the British and made this nation free, got pennies on the dollar for the assets they gave up to support the Revolution. And then, they were taxed to pay the wealthy speculators dollar for dollar for those scripts. In a real sense, raped TWICE. No wonder they rebelled, especially in upstate New York, which is another story as well. That revolution was put down by a "Lee", as in a forefather of Robert E. Lee. And while numerous individuals were convicted of treason, Washington knew the whole damn thing was a scam and he pardoned them, sparing them from the hangman's noose.

Look, I know it is a long screed, and I could go on all day about it. The one comfort I have is that the wealthiest person ever to be elected was George Washington, until Donald Trump strolled into the White House. Two bookends that hopefully, with the help of the Millennials, will end this 200 plus year long, rich get richer poor get poorer, society.
 
Excuse me? Unsubstantiated blanket statements seem to be your forte. Please link to the reputable source that states MOST husbands are domestic abusers. Run along, your thread just scraped the bottom of your jaded sewer. You have an agenda and it isn't playing well.
what a liar

I didn't say that but i know how liberals twist things to make their opponents look like freaks.. which is quite projective, isn't it?
 
Prove what? You stated that you share. Prove it. How many homeless have you welcomed into your home? The rich make it very clear when they do something humanitarian--its good press. Do your own research. Did your drug addicted mate beat you today? Is that why you are ready to vilify MOST husbands everywhere and hold all homeless blameless for their plight?
you liberals are just such BIG liars

I'm thinking of Ignore..
 
what a liar

I didn't say that but i know how liberals twist things to make their opponents look like freaks.. which is quite projective, isn't it?
I am glad you accept that you are a LIAR. Please review your post #12 and tell us again that you didn't say it. I'll save you the trouble, here is YOUR post. I guess we should all just pretend that most husbands are angels toward their wives? Now try to LIE your way out of that one. Moron.
 
Liberals are beyond disgusting

couldnt care less about TRUTH

just lie their sorry asses off any chance they get.

yes, Ignore is looking very good
 
Interesting thread you got here OP.

Let me ask you this...

What do you think is the biggest reason the rich gets richer?

Same for why the poor gets poorer?
Simple the rich (however you define that word) work harder and longer.

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That one is easy, and the answer is the same for both.

The rich man's wealth is his strong city: the destruction of the poor is their poverty. Proverbs 10:15

That is the way the entire American economic, legal, and political system is structured. To enhance the strength of the wealthy, exacerbate the destruction rendered by poverty. I mean I wish I could say that it is a recent thing, wish I could blame Republicans, Ronald Reagan, conservatives. But I can't because that is the way it has been FROM THE GET GO.

Take our Health Care System. Probably the only fully developed country in the world that has a free market based health care system, as if that was even economically possible. Why? So the poor can stay poor and the sick can die broke. Because what does that mean, the rich get richer.

Social Security, what a flippin Ponzi scam. I mean you structure something like that you end up like Bernie Maldoff. But the government, they can do it. Why is there a "cap" on earnings subject to the FICA tax? It is horseshit. Unearned income, let that phrase settle, "UNEARNED INCOME", is taxed less than earned income. WTF? So, I go out and bust my ass and "earn" income, I pay more in taxes than some fatass rich cat that sits on his ass and collects "unearned income"? Seriously? The example I use is the ditch diggers and the shovels. If you tax the ditch diggers more than you tax the dudes renting the shovels pretty soon, no one wants to dig ditches and everyone wants to rent out shovels. Can you say labor participation rate?

But let me conclude by explaining how it has always been that way. During the Revolutionary war armies would stroll on to a farm, mostly state militias, and take some corn, or some cows, gunpowder, even "arms", from the person that owned the farm. Then they would write out an IOU, it is called Continental Script, and as an avid and lifelong numismatist, I have a nice collection.

After the war things were tough. It is laughable that people complain about inflation and the economy now. It was bad. Farms were in disrepair, crops failed because they went unattended as males flocked together to fight off the mighty British army. And state governments were dead dog broke. To begin the reconstruction those farmers needed money, badly. Seed, feed for their mules, hell even food to feed their families. So they sold those "scripts" to people like George Washington and Alexander Hamilton. Sold them for pennies on the dollar.

Then, after the Second Continental Congress, the passing of the Constitution, one of the very first acts of Congress was to pass a bill introduced by Hamilton to pay for those scripts, dollar for d, ollar. The funds were to come from the Whiskey tax. I mean talk about adding insult to injury. Those farmers that sold those scripts for pennies on the dollar, well now, the one way they had to turn their crops into cash revenue that wasn't perishable, was being taxed. And how that very tax was structured is just another story, for another time, that reflects the entire premise of this thread.

But think about it. Those hard worker farmers, that fought the British and made this nation free, got pennies on the dollar for the assets they gave up to support the Revolution. And then, they were taxed to pay the wealthy speculators dollar for dollar for those scripts. In a real sense, raped TWICE. No wonder they rebelled, especially in upstate New York, which is another story as well. That revolution was put down by a "Lee", as in a forefather of Robert E. Lee. And while numerous individuals were convicted of treason, Washington knew the whole damn thing was a scam and he pardoned them, sparing them from the hangman's noose.

Look, I know it is a long screed, and I could go on all day about it. The one comfort I have is that the wealthiest person ever to be elected was George Washington, until Donald Trump strolled into the White House. Two bookends that hopefully, with the help of the Millennials, will end this 200 plus year long, rich get richer poor get poorer, society.
Very well stated.
 
Simple the rich (however you define that word) work harder and longer.

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How do you know?

The poor work hard and the homeless have a hard job just trying to survive.. (laundromat in one part of town, place to shower in opposite side of town.. etc) unless u think they should just off themselves.. It is very hard to get OUT of homelessness once you are there. One homeless person described it as being like quick sand..
 
The original thread seems to blame the "rich" for the homeless. Is that even logical even for a socialist? Native born Americans have the advantage of speaking the language and a free education up to the 12th grade but somehow Asian immigrants seem to prosper within a couple of years and even Hispanic illegals somehow manage to stay off the streets. The only reasonable conclusion is that substance abuse and insanity is the problem and that the homeless cannot or refuse to conform to the most basic of society's rules and prefer to act like animals.
 
The original thread seems to blame the "rich" for the homeless. Is that even logical even for a socialist? Native born Americans have the advantage of speaking the language and a free education up to the 12th grade but somehow Asian immigrants seem to prosper within a couple of years and even Hispanic illegals somehow manage to stay off the streets. The only reasonable conclusion is that substance abuse and insanity is the problem and that the homeless cannot or refuse to conform to the most basic of society's rules and prefer to act like animals.
you are full of it

and no one blamed the rich or any other group. It is the fault of many people and gov policies.. wasting tax money on everything but providing a simple roof over people's head.. a shower, etc.. OOOOH.. that is impossible, isn't it? But building bridges to nowhere.. millions spent on a ferry on a small island when there is already a ferry that works great..

I could go on and on

but somehow there's never enough money to build simple one room homes for low income people..
 
How do you know?

The poor work hard and the homeless have a hard job just trying to survive.. (laundromat in one part of town, place to shower in opposite side of town.. etc) unless u think they should just off themselves.. It is very hard to get OUT of homelessness once you are there. One homeless person described it as being like quick sand..
Folks may be poor but they aren't stupid. Many know that if they work too much, or earn too much, their government handouts are cut. When the minimum wage increases in their area, they work fewer hours. The government has also taught them that if they are married, their benefits are reduced so, don't get married. It really is that simple. Not true of all, but certainly true of many.

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Folks may be poor but they aren't stupid. Many know that if they work too much, or earn too much, their government handouts are cut. When the minimum wage increases in their area, they work fewer hours. The government has also taught them that if they are married, their benefits are reduced so, don't get married. It really is that simple. Not true of all, but certainly true of many.
not all homeless are on gov assistance and I doubt many of them do what you say here.. But even if they do, that is on gummit.. When people apply for assistance, they should be shown jobs in the area they are qualified for and helped to get said jobs. It is hard to get a job whne you cannot put down a physical address on the application.. hard to get a job whne you can't even take a shower or iron theclothes you slept in the night b4
 
why does everyone pay attn to the drug issue? No one ever talks about the dv issues of 72% of women who are homeless. I guess we should all just pretend that most husbands are angels toward their wives? Or maybe we just don't want to help the homeless, so we make up all this bs about what worthless human trash they are so we don't have to feel guilty 4 having things they do not have?

yeh, that one
That's what we pay taxes for.
 

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