Is This Proof That The Whole Thing Was Made Up???

An elderly, overweight President had it, and ten days later is doing two hours-long rallies a day.
I would certainly have been less cautious if I knew a helicopter would rush me to a private hospital suite and a team of doctors would be focused on me. And I had access to medicines not available to the public.


Now....about this Democrat lock-down to destroy Trump's economic miracle, Hill reporter Joe Consha said the following on Fox. 10/6:

"The CDC said that between the ages of zero and 19, 99.97% of people survive the Wuhan.
....between 20 and 45, 99.98%
....between 50 and 65, 99.5%
....and over 70, about 95%.

I suppose everyone had their own helicopter, huh?
First off, many have perished, some I knew, many more became seriously ill, and many still suffer long-term effects.

Interesting that many countries went into lock-down, were they trying to destroy Trump's economic miracle too? Many countries didn't go into lock-down or ended it quickly, Brazil and India come to mind.
The plural of anecdote is not data.
The latest CDC numbers I found put the number of deaths from covid at 580,000. In a population of 331,000,000, that is a death rate of 1.75%. Less than 2 in 100. Not bad, unless you are the 2. The CDC also says the US has had 32,700,000 cases. That is a lot of suffering and long-term issues for many.

I guess more deaths and suffering would have been worthwhile if they kept Trump's economy looking good. I see how you value human life.


There was never any reason other than the political, to shut down the economy.


Lose a few pounds, you'll be safe.
Still more hypocrisy. Are you saying that NO ONE has died of covid or just that money matters more than lives? Are abortions OK if the mother doesn't want to pay for their upbringing?
"Are you saying that NO ONE has died of covid..."

Quite the opposite.

People die of all sorts of things...and we don't close the economy for them.
So how many would have had to die of covid before you would want to restrict economic activity?



Did they shut the economy during the Spanish Flu?

Oh....they didn't, but Trump wasn't the target then.
they shut saloons, churches, schools, wore masks etc, in the cities during the Spanish flu.... The cities with restrictions faired better with fewer deaths, than those who did not have lockdown and mandates....

Did they make these orders to keep Trump from winning an election back in 1918?

sheesh.... :rolleyes:
 
An elderly, overweight President had it, and ten days later is doing two hours-long rallies a day.
I would certainly have been less cautious if I knew a helicopter would rush me to a private hospital suite and a team of doctors would be focused on me. And I had access to medicines not available to the public.


Now....about this Democrat lock-down to destroy Trump's economic miracle, Hill reporter Joe Consha said the following on Fox. 10/6:

"The CDC said that between the ages of zero and 19, 99.97% of people survive the Wuhan.
....between 20 and 45, 99.98%
....between 50 and 65, 99.5%
....and over 70, about 95%.

I suppose everyone had their own helicopter, huh?
First off, many have perished, some I knew, many more became seriously ill, and many still suffer long-term effects.

Interesting that many countries went into lock-down, were they trying to destroy Trump's economic miracle too? Many countries didn't go into lock-down or ended it quickly, Brazil and India come to mind.
The plural of anecdote is not data.
The latest CDC numbers I found put the number of deaths from covid at 580,000. In a population of 331,000,000, that is a death rate of 1.75%. Less than 2 in 100. Not bad, unless you are the 2. The CDC also says the US has had 32,700,000 cases. That is a lot of suffering and long-term issues for many.

I guess more deaths and suffering would have been worthwhile if they kept Trump's economy looking good. I see how you value human life.


There was never any reason other than the political, to shut down the economy.


Lose a few pounds, you'll be safe.
Still more hypocrisy. Are you saying that NO ONE has died of covid or just that money matters more than lives? Are abortions OK if the mother doesn't want to pay for their upbringing?
"Are you saying that NO ONE has died of covid..."

Quite the opposite.

People die of all sorts of things...and we don't close the economy for them.
So how many would have had to die of covid before you would want to restrict economic activity?



Did they shut the economy during the Spanish Flu?

Oh....they didn't, but Trump wasn't the target then.
they shut saloons, churches, schools, wore masks etc, in the cities during the Spanish flu.... The cities with restrictions faired better with fewer deaths, than those who did not have lockdown and mandates....

Did they make these orders to keep Trump from winning an election back in 1918?

sheesh.... :rolleyes:



How about shutting the economy?

Oh...right....wasn't necessary....Trump wasn't President with a miraculous economy to run on.




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An elderly, overweight President had it, and ten days later is doing two hours-long rallies a day.
I would certainly have been less cautious if I knew a helicopter would rush me to a private hospital suite and a team of doctors would be focused on me. And I had access to medicines not available to the public.


Now....about this Democrat lock-down to destroy Trump's economic miracle, Hill reporter Joe Consha said the following on Fox. 10/6:

"The CDC said that between the ages of zero and 19, 99.97% of people survive the Wuhan.
....between 20 and 45, 99.98%
....between 50 and 65, 99.5%
....and over 70, about 95%.

I suppose everyone had their own helicopter, huh?
First off, many have perished, some I knew, many more became seriously ill, and many still suffer long-term effects.

Interesting that many countries went into lock-down, were they trying to destroy Trump's economic miracle too? Many countries didn't go into lock-down or ended it quickly, Brazil and India come to mind.
The plural of anecdote is not data.
The latest CDC numbers I found put the number of deaths from covid at 580,000. In a population of 331,000,000, that is a death rate of 1.75%. Less than 2 in 100. Not bad, unless you are the 2. The CDC also says the US has had 32,700,000 cases. That is a lot of suffering and long-term issues for many.

I guess more deaths and suffering would have been worthwhile if they kept Trump's economy looking good. I see how you value human life.


Total nonsense, intended for the hand-wringing morons like you.


They simply claim every death is due to the Wuhan Red Death.....and you believe this as you've believed every lie they've told.


Democrats lie about everything….on what basis would any of their fabricated data be considered valid???


Here the prism through which every Democrat pronouncement should be viewed: First collusion, collusion, collusion, Russia, Russia, Russia, Obstruction, Obstruction, Obstruction. Racist, Racist, Racist, Impeach, Impeach, Impeach, Recession, Recession, Recession, Emoluments, 25th amendment, Stormy Daniels, lies about Charlottesville fine Nazis, Kurds, Ukraine, Quid Pro Quo, ‘lynching,’ the Kavanaugh hoax, the GAO charges, Lev Parnas, impeachment, coronavirus ‘hoax,’ General Flynn perjury trap, no evidence of voter fraud in the stolen election.....

Don’t forget the Democrats told you that Trump was colluding with Russia…and that wasn’t true. They also told you that so was Naval Academy grad Carter Page and so was George Papadopoulos and so was General Michael Flynn, a three star general and former director of the Defense Intelligence Agency….and all of that was a lie. How stupid must one be to keep believing what they say?

...and, AOC lying about her near-death experience in the Capitol Riots.....when she wasn't even in the Capitol.

And that Biden voters as agents provocateur weren't behind the Capitol Riot.....and that Pelosi knew and refused to allow extra security. They lie about everything.......yet here you are, ready to swallow the next lie.

FakeStories: Three years of Russian Collusion stories; altering documents at the DoJ and FBI to railroad political opponents; the state media burying the Hunter Biden Scandal what with Joe getting 10% of the bribes; stories about Kavanaugh rape parties, and Covington Catholic School; Carter Page working for Russia when he was actually working for the CIA….where were those ‘fact checkers’?



What should you do when they lied to you at least these 25 times already???????????
The poster we don't believe as they are a constant spewer of ignorance and falsehoods would be YOU.


Oh, my.....an "Is not, issssssssssss noooooooootttttttttttt!!!!!" post from a dunce.

Can you find any examples of exactly what I have posted that isn't true?



Or.....can you state how many times the Democrats/Left/Progressives must lie to you before you catch on?


Is there ANY limit????



Did you see this one......their attempt to hide what they've done?



Wait 'til you see this whopper from the LATimes:


"The evidence is clear — COVID lockdowns saved lives without harming economies

The published data point to two related conclusions: First, lockdowns played a significant role in reducing infection rates. Second, they had a very modest role in producing economic damage. Conversely, lifting lockdowns has done very little to spur economic resurgence."


They lie about EVERYTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!




"The article was widely panned on social media, including by author Carol Roth, who pointed out the devastating impact lockdowns had on small businesses.

“This is ridiculously cruel,” Roth tweeted. “By June 2020, 400,000 #smallbiz were permanently shuttered-more today. 37% of #smallbiz in @Alignable survey can't pay May rent. We have 8+ million fewer jobs filled than in 2/20. But hey, big companies got bigger & more powerful at smallbiz's expense!"
 
Attacking others does not relieve you of the guilt YOUR lies have produced.
 
Wow , how many people died that you knew . Seems rare.



Lots of dimwits never recovered from the WUHAN RED DEATH HOAX

But....they have one of these disabilities:
....they went to government school
.....or they fear offending the Democrat Party
....or they are really, really stupid.
.....and voted for Biden.



I just found another post another post from one of the hand-wringers. So let's clear this up once and for all.

1. And as far as how disastrous the Wuhan is to folks without those underlying co-morbidities, quick review of the facts: If one gets the Wuhan, the chances of dying from it approach zero….no more than a rounding error in the data.
An elderly, overweight President had it, and ten days later was doing two hours-long rallies a day.



2. Here, from WebMD:
Coronavirus Recovery Rates


Scientists and researchers are constantly tracking infections and recoveries. But they have data only on confirmed cases, so they can’t count people who don’t get COVID-19 tests. Experts also don’t have information about the outcome of every infection. However, early estimates predict that the overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%.
Coronavirus Recovery



3. Hill reporter Joe Consha said the following on Fox.

"The CDC said that between the ages of zero and 19, 99.97% of people survive the Wuhan.
....between 20 and 45, 99.98%
....between 50 and 65, 99.5%
....and over 70, about 95%.



4. “Study Shows Children have a 99.995% Covid Recovery Rate with TWO Deaths Per Million Kids
This was never about healthcare. It was, is, and always will be about control.”
truthbasedmedia.com

Study Shows Children have a 99.995% Covid Recovery Rate with TWO Deaths Per Million Kids

Let's put the conclusions up front. There is no reason for kids to wear masks. There's no reason to keep
truthbasedmedia.com
truthbasedmedia.com




5. If you had no co-morbidities to begin with.....


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ourworldindata.org

Mortality Risk of COVID-19 - Statistics and Research

We update the country-by-country data – shown in the interactive visualizations – daily. Further below you find a longer text on how to interpret the various metrics; the static visualizations in that section and the text were written in the first half of 2020 and have not been updated since.
ourworldindata.org
ourworldindata.org

That’s worldwide….includes nations with third world healthcare: under 1%


And those with socialized medicine, much higher rate of death.


6. “Most people recover from Covid-19.
Most people with Covid-19 have mild illness and are able to recover at home without medical care,… Most people recover from Covid-19. Here's why it's hard to pinpoint exactly how many





7. The mechanism of the hoax was simply to claim that deaths that would have occurred (most who died already had DNRs), and to substitute the real cause of death (the usual causes… heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia) and pretend that the Wuhan was responsible.

It was designed to dissipate the value of Trump’s miraculous economy….and it worked.


You won, you hurt America badly, but you got rid of your bête noire.

Give it up already: no, 600,000 Americans did not die of the Wuhan Red Death.

It's just one more of the myriad lies Democrats tell.
 
A neighbor and the parents of several friends died. Probably a dozen family and friends were sick for weeks but have since recovered.


“Does COVID-19 have a 98 percent survival rate?

Health officials estimate more 99% of infected patients survive

DETROIT
– Health officials have confirmed the survival rate for people with the coronavirus (COVID-19) is high, but that’s no reason to relax safety measures that have been put in place.

One of the numbers that has been circulating on social media is that COVID-19 has a 98% or higher survival rate.

As of Wednesday, the number of cases in the United States was around 3,512,000 and the number of deaths was around 137,000. That would make the case fatality rate 3.9%, so based on confirmed cases, about 96% of people survive.” Does COVID-19 have a 98 percent survival rate?u



Doesn’t look like a great reason to ruin the economy and the lives of millions of unaffected individuals…..

…..unless you have an ulterior purpose.
 
Lots of dimwits never recovered from the WUHAN RED DEATH HOAX

But....they have one of these disabilities:
....they went to government school
.....or they fear offending the Democrat Party
....or they are really, really stupid.
.....and voted for Biden.



I just found another post another post from one of the hand-wringers. So let's clear this up once and for all.

1. And as far as how disastrous the Wuhan is to folks without those underlying co-morbidities, quick review of the facts: If one gets the Wuhan, the chances of dying from it approach zero….no more than a rounding error in the data.
An elderly, overweight President had it, and ten days later was doing two hours-long rallies a day.



2. Here, from WebMD:
Coronavirus Recovery Rates


Scientists and researchers are constantly tracking infections and recoveries. But they have data only on confirmed cases, so they can’t count people who don’t get COVID-19 tests. Experts also don’t have information about the outcome of every infection. However, early estimates predict that the overall COVID-19 recovery rate is between 97% and 99.75%.
Coronavirus Recovery



3. Hill reporter Joe Consha said the following on Fox.

"The CDC said that between the ages of zero and 19, 99.97% of people survive the Wuhan.
....between 20 and 45, 99.98%
....between 50 and 65, 99.5%
....and over 70, about 95%.



4. “Study Shows Children have a 99.995% Covid Recovery Rate with TWO Deaths Per Million Kids
This was never about healthcare. It was, is, and always will be about control.”
truthbasedmedia.com

Study Shows Children have a 99.995% Covid Recovery Rate with TWO Deaths Per Million Kids

Let's put the conclusions up front. There is no reason for kids to wear masks. There's no reason to keep
truthbasedmedia.com
truthbasedmedia.com




5. If you had no co-morbidities to begin with.....


1626816939992.png



ourworldindata.org

Mortality Risk of COVID-19 - Statistics and Research

We update the country-by-country data – shown in the interactive visualizations – daily. Further below you find a longer text on how to interpret the various metrics; the static visualizations in that section and the text were written in the first half of 2020 and have not been updated since.
ourworldindata.org
ourworldindata.org

That’s worldwide….includes nations with third world healthcare: under 1%


And those with socialized medicine, much higher rate of death.


6. “Most people recover from Covid-19.
Most people with Covid-19 have mild illness and are able to recover at home without medical care,… Most people recover from Covid-19. Here's why it's hard to pinpoint exactly how many





7. The mechanism of the hoax was simply to claim that deaths that would have occurred (most who died already had DNRs), and to substitute the real cause of death (the usual causes… heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia) and pretend that the Wuhan was responsible.

It was designed to dissipate the value of Trump’s miraculous economy….and it worked.


You won, you hurt America badly, but you got rid of your bête noire.

Give it up already: no, 600,000 Americans did not die of the Wuhan Red Death.

It's just one more of the myriad lies Democrats tell.
I guess since only a minority of pregnancies are terminated by an abortion, abortion is not a big deal either.
 
I guess since only a minority of pregnancies are terminated by an abortion, abortion is not a big deal either.


So slaughter of the innocent human beings by other human beings, is comparable to the normal deaths due to disease, that would be some 3 million a year....
. If you are unfamiliar with the numbers related to deaths, they can scare you with any one they make up.



When you see that hundreds of thousands number, remember that 3 million Americans die from all sorts of things annually, and that the most significant numbers occur from these causes: heart disease, respiratory diseases, influenza and pneumonia. Never the flu alone!!!!



But suddenly, the numbers of deaths due to these causes has fallen….with no requisite medical advances to account for the drop….and just as suddenly the number of fewer deaths from these causes, happens be the same attributed to the Wuhan.







“COVID-19 should be reported on the death certificate for all decedents where the disease caused or is assumed to have caused or contributed to death. Certifiers should include as much detail as possible based on their knowledge of the case, medical records, laboratory testing, etc.,” the guidance continued.
“If the decedent had other chronic conditions such as COPD or asthma that may have also contributed, these conditions can be reported in Part II.”
Is The Number of Deaths Due To COVID-19 Being Inflated, And, If So, Why? | NewsRadio 740 KTRH | Michael Berry


No matter the actual cause........it's the Chinavirus!


You must be a Democrat, huh?
 
“Does COVID-19 have a 98 percent survival rate?

Health officials estimate more 99% of infected patients survive

DETROIT
– Health officials have confirmed the survival rate for people with the coronavirus (COVID-19) is high, but that’s no reason to relax safety measures that have been put in place.

One of the numbers that has been circulating on social media is that COVID-19 has a 98% or higher survival rate.

As of Wednesday, the number of cases in the United States was around 3,512,000 and the number of deaths was around 137,000. That would make the case fatality rate 3.9%, so based on confirmed cases, about 96% of people survive.” Does COVID-19 have a 98 percent survival rate?u



Doesn’t look like a great reason to ruin the economy and the lives of millions of unaffected individuals…..

…..unless you have an ulterior purpose.
About 1 in 6 Covid survivors will have long-term issues. The people I know who survived Covid without long-term problems say it was a long, painful illness. How much suffering is acceptable in your view?
 
So slaughter of the innocent human beings by other human beings, is comparable to the normal deaths due to disease, that would be some 3 million a year....
But MOST of the unborn survive as do MOST of the Covid victims. Why do you care so much for one class and so little for the other?

You must be a Conservative.
 
About 1 in 6 Covid survivors will have long-term issues. The people I know who survived Covid without long-term problems say it was a long, painful illness. How much suffering is acceptable in your view?


So now you're reduced to your usual babble.

I use you to provide the facts.

You've been useful.
 
But MOST of the unborn survive as do MOST of the Covid victims. Why do you care so much for one class and so little for the other?

You must be a Conservative.


Look up the word 'innocent.'
Then you will have doubled your vocabulary.


Fascists, Nazis, Liberals, Progressives, Socialists, Communists, Democrats
The collective, command and control regulation of private industry, and overarching government that can order every aspect of the private citizen's life....right down to control of his thoughts and speech.


None of the totalitarian forms of political plague have the slightest concern for human life: not communism (gulags), not Nazism (concentration camps), not Liberalism (abortion), not Progressivism (eugenics), not socialism (theft), not fascism (murder).

The Democrats check every one of those boxes.



They only differ in the final outcome: slavery, serfdom, or death.

They all follow Trotsky: "We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."



So you're a Democrat, huh?
 
Look up the word 'innocent.'
Then you will have doubled your vocabulary.
Thanks I did but I'm still unclear about something, how many people who were infected with Covid were NOT innocent?

As of July 27, 2021, the number of COVID-19 cases worldwide had reached over 195 million. In addition, the number of deaths from COVID-19 was almost 4.2 million. The United States is the country with the highest number of confirmed cases (almost 35 million) and deaths.
 
Thanks I did but I'm still unclear about something, how many people who were infected with Covid were NOT innocent?

As of July 27, 2021, the number of COVID-19 cases worldwide had reached over 195 million. In addition, the number of deaths from COVID-19 was almost 4.2 million. The United States is the country with the highest number of confirmed cases (almost 35 million) and deaths.


Have you ever had a head cold?

Oh....wait......you'd be immune to that.
 
Have you ever answered a question or are you immune?


Didn't you get the memo???

You're not obligated to continue if you find it objectionable.



Seems you've actually incorporated the totalitarian modes of either mandating or banning.....
Take it from those of us who are conservatives: we allow free will.
 
Didn't you get the memo???

You're not obligated to continue if you find it objectionable.



Seems you've actually incorporated the totalitarian modes of either mandating or banning.....
Take it from those of us who are conservatives: we allow free will.
I know, I'm so naive that when I'm on a discussion site I expect a discussion, at least more so than I do when I'm on Wikipedia. You are certainly free to maintain your one-way proclamation style just as I'm free to demand answers and point out your lies, divergions, straw men, and the like. You're not obligated to continue if you find it objectionable.
 

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