Is this acceptable in US politics?

[peach174]

The Arab Spring is still in effect. Calling Morsi and the MB a friend of product of Obama is pure BS. Revolutions can have fits and starts. It's just right wing propaganda to lay anything bad at Obama's feet and claim for themselves anything good. What about Tunisia? So far that's a positive, but the nutters won't mention it unless something bad happens.

The Arab Spring is in Yemen now.

Quite chilling.

Yes !

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

I can't wait for Bibi to address Congress just a couple weeks before the Israeli people give him the boot. He promised to keep them safe and that backfired last summer. His trip here is seen as a shallow political ploy in his home country to look relevant by lecturing the Americans and telling them what they should or shouldn't do regarding Iranian nuclear talks.

What's ironic is that Republicans stand for drug-testing welfare recipients and the world's largest recipient of American welfare is Bibi Netanyahu and his country. Here's a welfare queen that they're actually inviting over because they think tough talk and beating one's chest are fine substitutions for diplomacy.

John Boehner isn't being petty or vindictive. He actually thinks it's the right thing to do. But the joke is on him because Bibi is now the laughing stock among actual elites in America and Israel who find that he shoots his mouth off too much for a guy who hasn't put up any actual results.

Boehner is being petty and vindictive because he is trying to obstruct Obama from getting the credit for bringing Iran down off the nuclear arms ledge. The fact that it would be good for both America and the world if Obama succeeds is irrelevant. He just wants to ensure that Iran is not another success story on Obama's legacy.

Another success story? I must have missed the previous one's,could you point em out?
And if you think talking is going to curtail irans nuclear ambitions you're a blithering idiot.

 

[tinydancer]

The Arab Spring is still in effect. Calling Morsi and the MB a friend of product of Obama is pure BS. Revolutions can have fits and starts. It's just right wing propaganda to lay anything bad at Obama's feet and claim for themselves anything good. What about Tunisia? So far that's a positive, but the nutters won't mention it unless something bad happens.

The Arab Spring is in Yemen now.

Quite chilling.

Oh yeah. Obama bragged about Yemen last fall didn't he? Another Obama success story.

Assumes facts not in evidence. Epic fail #4!

Bite me. He bragged about Yemen. This is on record.

 

[007]

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It's tough to say what's acceptable any more.

The political climate in this country (including politicians, pundits, politicos and partisans) is so nasty and hateful that we don't seem to be able to find the bottom.

Anyone will say or do pretty much anything at this point.

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And the pandemic apathy and ignorance in America doesn't help any either.

 

[peach174]

The Arab Spring is still in effect. Calling Morsi and the MB a friend of product of Obama is pure BS. Revolutions can have fits and starts. It's just right wing propaganda to lay anything bad at Obama's feet and claim for themselves anything good. What about Tunisia? So far that's a positive, but the nutters won't mention it unless something bad happens.

The Arab Spring is in Yemen now.

Quite chilling.

Oh yeah. Obama bragged about Yemen last fall didn't he? Another Obama success story.

Assumes facts not in evidence. Epic fail #4!

Assumes?
No he actually said it.
That time Obama touted success of Yemen strategy as model for handling the Islamic State WashingtonExaminer.com

 

[tinydancer]

Obama's own words.

"This strategy of taking out terrorists who threaten us, while supporting partners on the front lines, is one that we have successfully pursued in Yemen and Somalia for years.”

Reality. It's like too fucking funny.

U.S. Fears Chaos as Government of Yemen Falls
By SHUAIB ALMOSAWA and ROD NORDLANDJAN. 22, 2015


SANA, Yemen — The American-backed government of Yemen abruptly collapsed Thursday night, leaving the country leaderless as it is convulsed by an increasingly powerful force of pro-Iran rebels and a resurgent Qaeda.

The resignation of the president, prime minister and cabinet took American officials by surprise and heightened the risks that Yemen, the Arab world’s poorest country, would become even more of a breeding ground for Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, which has claimed responsibility for audacious anti-Western attacks — including the deadly assault on Charlie Hebdo in Paris this month.

The resignation of President Abdu Rabbu Mansour Hadi brought full circle Yemen’s Arab Spring revolution, which ousted former President Ali Abdullah Saleh in 2011 amid massive popular protests. Now Mr. Saleh, who has lately made himself an unlikely ally of the Houthi rebels who toppled the government, is poised to return to the forefront of Yemeni politics.

Faux News? Au contraire!

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/23/world/middleeast/yemen-houthi-crisis-sana.html



Obama Tonight Yemen and Somalia Are Models of Success The Weekly Standard

 

[007]

We all know who's side that filthy muslim dog in the black house is on. The fucking POS belongs in prison...

 

[Derideo_Te]

The Arab Spring is still in effect. Calling Morsi and the MB a friend of product of Obama is pure BS. Revolutions can have fits and starts. It's just right wing propaganda to lay anything bad at Obama's feet and claim for themselves anything good. What about Tunisia? So far that's a positive, but the nutters won't mention it unless something bad happens.

The Arab Spring is in Yemen now.

Quite chilling.

Oh yeah. Obama bragged about Yemen last fall didn't he? Another Obama success story.

Assumes facts not in evidence. Epic fail #4!

Bite me. He bragged about Yemen. This is on record.

BZZZT Wrong!

He was bragging about his strategy, not Yemen itself. There is a difference and it quite a significant one at that.

 

[Derideo_Te]

The Arab Spring is still in effect. Calling Morsi and the MB a friend of product of Obama is pure BS. Revolutions can have fits and starts. It's just right wing propaganda to lay anything bad at Obama's feet and claim for themselves anything good. What about Tunisia? So far that's a positive, but the nutters won't mention it unless something bad happens.

The Arab Spring is in Yemen now.

Quite chilling.

Oh yeah. Obama bragged about Yemen last fall didn't he? Another Obama success story.

Assumes facts not in evidence. Epic fail #4!

Assumes?
No he actually said it.
That time Obama touted success of Yemen strategy as model for handling the Islamic State WashingtonExaminer.com

BZZZT Wrong!

He wasn't claiming that Yemen was a success. He was saying that the policy against terrorists in Yemen was effective.

This strategy of taking out terrorists who threaten us, while supporting partners on the front lines, is one that we have successfully pursued in Yemen and Somalia for years.”​

Obama is talking about the drone strikes.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Obama's own words.

"This strategy of taking out terrorists who threaten us, while supporting partners on the front lines, is one that we have successfully pursued in Yemen and Somalia for years.”

Reality. It's like too fucking funny.

U.S. Fears Chaos as Government of Yemen Falls
By SHUAIB ALMOSAWA and ROD NORDLANDJAN. 22, 2015


SANA, Yemen — The American-backed government of Yemen abruptly collapsed Thursday night, leaving the country leaderless as it is convulsed by an increasingly powerful force of pro-Iran rebels and a resurgent Qaeda.

The resignation of the president, prime minister and cabinet took American officials by surprise and heightened the risks that Yemen, the Arab world’s poorest country, would become even more of a breeding ground for Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, which has claimed responsibility for audacious anti-Western attacks — including the deadly assault on Charlie Hebdo in Paris this month.

The resignation of President Abdu Rabbu Mansour Hadi brought full circle Yemen’s Arab Spring revolution, which ousted former President Ali Abdullah Saleh in 2011 amid massive popular protests. Now Mr. Saleh, who has lately made himself an unlikely ally of the Houthi rebels who toppled the government, is poised to return to the forefront of Yemeni politics.

Faux News? Au contraire!

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/23/world/middleeast/yemen-houthi-crisis-sana.html



Obama Tonight Yemen and Somalia Are Models of Success The Weekly Standard

Which part are you having trouble comprehending?

Obama is referring to taking out terrorists in Yemen with drone strikes.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

What Boehner has done is underhanded and petty. So far his latest Speaker term is an unmitigated disaster and this isn't going to help him one iota. If anything it will just make him appear to be the vindictive small minded little alcoholic runt that he actually is.

It's idiocy to have Netanyahu come preach to the republican choir in an effort to undermine the Administration's efforts to deal with Iran, where Boehner's ignorance and incompetence only makes the president's task that much more difficult.

Netanyahu is completely devoid of objectivity when it comes to Iran, he is in no way an 'expert' nor 'authority,' where his advocacy of continued hostility toward Iran will only result in Iran indeed developing a nuclear capability.

 

[The Professor]

Bibi s dangerous deal with Republicans i24news - See beyond

Republicans are helping Netanyahu to beat his rivals in Israel, he is helping them humiliate their president

In the 1983 Israel State Cup soccer competition, Hapoel Tel Aviv played against Maccabi Tel Aviv. The victory goal was scored by Hapoel player Gili Landau. It was a historic goal. Not because of its beauty, but because Landau, a brilliant footballer, scored the goal with his hand, under the referee's nose.

Netanyahu is not Gili Landau. Not at all. But the technique is the same technique: What isn't accomplished with the leg will be accomplished with the hand; what doesn’t work in Israel will work in Washington.

The invitation Netanyahu received from United States House of Representative Speaker John Boehner, to address a joint session of the two houses of Congress, is a brilliant electoral trick.

It is acceptable for foreign leaders in directly interfere in US politics?

In my humble opinion, it is neither more nor less acceptable than it is for leaders of our country to directly interfere in the politics of other nations. Not that we have ever done that or ever would, right?

 

[rdean]

Bibi s dangerous deal with Republicans i24news - See beyond

Republicans are helping Netanyahu to beat his rivals in Israel, he is helping them humiliate their president

In the 1983 Israel State Cup soccer competition, Hapoel Tel Aviv played against Maccabi Tel Aviv. The victory goal was scored by Hapoel player Gili Landau. It was a historic goal. Not because of its beauty, but because Landau, a brilliant footballer, scored the goal with his hand, under the referee's nose.

Netanyahu is not Gili Landau. Not at all. But the technique is the same technique: What isn't accomplished with the leg will be accomplished with the hand; what doesn’t work in Israel will work in Washington.

The invitation Netanyahu received from United States House of Representative Speaker John Boehner, to address a joint session of the two houses of Congress, is a brilliant electoral trick.

It is acceptable for foreign leaders in directly interfere in US politics?

Republicans are helping Netanyahu to beat his rivals in Israel, he is helping them humiliate their president

Never before in US history has an opposing party brought in a foreign leader in an attempt to humiliate the sitting and duly elected president. What makes this so extraordinary is the fact that the GOP congress got rid of their ONLY Jew, Eric Cantor and replaced him with "David Dukes without the baggage", a man who speaks at the rallies of people who hate Jews and admire Nazi's.

In their blind hatred of the first black president, the GOP congress and gone too far and it certainly isn't lost on the American people. There will be a price to pay.

 

[peach174]

Obama's own words.

"This strategy of taking out terrorists who threaten us, while supporting partners on the front lines, is one that we have successfully pursued in Yemen and Somalia for years.”

Reality. It's like too fucking funny.

U.S. Fears Chaos as Government of Yemen Falls
By SHUAIB ALMOSAWA and ROD NORDLANDJAN. 22, 2015


SANA, Yemen — The American-backed government of Yemen abruptly collapsed Thursday night, leaving the country leaderless as it is convulsed by an increasingly powerful force of pro-Iran rebels and a resurgent Qaeda.

The resignation of the president, prime minister and cabinet took American officials by surprise and heightened the risks that Yemen, the Arab world’s poorest country, would become even more of a breeding ground for Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, which has claimed responsibility for audacious anti-Western attacks — including the deadly assault on Charlie Hebdo in Paris this month.

The resignation of President Abdu Rabbu Mansour Hadi brought full circle Yemen’s Arab Spring revolution, which ousted former President Ali Abdullah Saleh in 2011 amid massive popular protests. Now Mr. Saleh, who has lately made himself an unlikely ally of the Houthi rebels who toppled the government, is poised to return to the forefront of Yemeni politics.

Faux News? Au contraire!

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/23/world/middleeast/yemen-houthi-crisis-sana.html



Obama Tonight Yemen and Somalia Are Models of Success The Weekly Standard

Which part are you having trouble comprehending?

Obama is referring to taking out terrorists in Yemen with drone strikes.

Exactly and it's failing. It is not a successes story like he claims.
Even a self called progressive says it is not working.
Yemen Drone Attack Shows Failure of U.S. Policy The Progressive
The drone strikes in Yemen are achieving the dubious distinction of angering elite and mass public opinion in Yemen alike. In an interview with me in the December/January issue of The Progressive, Yemeni Nobel Peace laureate Tawakkol Karman insisted that the United States halt drone attacks in her country. And the strikes may actually be increasing extremism in her country.

"When you kill people in Yemen, these are people who have families, they have clans, and they have tribes," Gregory Johnsen of Princeton University told PBS Newshour in August. "The United States might target a particular individual because they see him as a member of Al Qaeda; what's happening on the ground is that he's being defended as a tribesman. So you have people flowing into Al Qaeda, not necessarily because they share the same ideology of Al Qaeda, but just so that they can get revenge for their tribesman who has been killed in a drone or airstrike." Last April, a Yemeni activist gave moving testimony before Congress in a rare hearing on the subject (which the Obama Administration refused to attend).
Farea al-Muslimi first laid out his pro-American inclinations: "I don't know if there is anyone on Earth that feels more thankful to America than me." Al-Muslimi actually spent a year in the United States as a high school exchange student, an experience that made him really love America. And yet he testified about how U.S. policy was making life very difficult for him. "The killing of innocent civilians by U.S. missiles in Yemen is helping to destabilize my country and create an environment from which Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula benefits," al-Muslimi said after describing the horrors of civilian casualties in his village caused by a U.S. drone attack. "What radicals had previously failed to achieve in my village, one drone strike accomplished in an instant: there is now an intense anger and growing hatred of America."

 

[danielpalos]

Bibi s dangerous deal with Republicans i24news - See beyond

Republicans are helping Netanyahu to beat his rivals in Israel, he is helping them humiliate their president

In the 1983 Israel State Cup soccer competition, Hapoel Tel Aviv played against Maccabi Tel Aviv. The victory goal was scored by Hapoel player Gili Landau. It was a historic goal. Not because of its beauty, but because Landau, a brilliant footballer, scored the goal with his hand, under the referee's nose.

Netanyahu is not Gili Landau. Not at all. But the technique is the same technique: What isn't accomplished with the leg will be accomplished with the hand; what doesn’t work in Israel will work in Washington.

The invitation Netanyahu received from United States House of Representative Speaker John Boehner, to address a joint session of the two houses of Congress, is a brilliant electoral trick.

It is acceptable for foreign leaders in directly interfere in US politics?

I am not sure what you mean; politics includes influence.

 

[Roadrunner]

Bibi s dangerous deal with Republicans i24news - See beyond

Republicans are helping Netanyahu to beat his rivals in Israel, he is helping them humiliate their president

In the 1983 Israel State Cup soccer competition, Hapoel Tel Aviv played against Maccabi Tel Aviv. The victory goal was scored by Hapoel player Gili Landau. It was a historic goal. Not because of its beauty, but because Landau, a brilliant footballer, scored the goal with his hand, under the referee's nose.

Netanyahu is not Gili Landau. Not at all. But the technique is the same technique: What isn't accomplished with the leg will be accomplished with the hand; what doesn’t work in Israel will work in Washington.

The invitation Netanyahu received from United States House of Representative Speaker John Boehner, to address a joint session of the two houses of Congress, is a brilliant electoral trick.

It is acceptable for foreign leaders in directly interfere in US politics?

In my humble opinion, it is neither more nor less acceptable than it is for leaders of our country to directly interfere in the politics of other nations. Not that we have ever done that or ever would, right?

Could another nation drone us, with the same impunity with which Obama uses our drones?

Would world opinion really be against such a turnabout, if say, ISIS droned some golf courses Obama likes?

Or worse?

 

[Derideo_Te]

Obama's own words.

"This strategy of taking out terrorists who threaten us, while supporting partners on the front lines, is one that we have successfully pursued in Yemen and Somalia for years.”

Reality. It's like too fucking funny.

U.S. Fears Chaos as Government of Yemen Falls
By SHUAIB ALMOSAWA and ROD NORDLANDJAN. 22, 2015


SANA, Yemen — The American-backed government of Yemen abruptly collapsed Thursday night, leaving the country leaderless as it is convulsed by an increasingly powerful force of pro-Iran rebels and a resurgent Qaeda.

The resignation of the president, prime minister and cabinet took American officials by surprise and heightened the risks that Yemen, the Arab world’s poorest country, would become even more of a breeding ground for Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, which has claimed responsibility for audacious anti-Western attacks — including the deadly assault on Charlie Hebdo in Paris this month.

The resignation of President Abdu Rabbu Mansour Hadi brought full circle Yemen’s Arab Spring revolution, which ousted former President Ali Abdullah Saleh in 2011 amid massive popular protests. Now Mr. Saleh, who has lately made himself an unlikely ally of the Houthi rebels who toppled the government, is poised to return to the forefront of Yemeni politics.

Faux News? Au contraire!

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/23/world/middleeast/yemen-houthi-crisis-sana.html



Obama Tonight Yemen and Somalia Are Models of Success The Weekly Standard

Which part are you having trouble comprehending?

Obama is referring to taking out terrorists in Yemen with drone strikes.

Exactly and it's failing. It is not a successes story like he claims.
Even a self called progressive says it is not working.
Yemen Drone Attack Shows Failure of U.S. Policy The Progressive
The drone strikes in Yemen are achieving the dubious distinction of angering elite and mass public opinion in Yemen alike. In an interview with me in the December/January issue of The Progressive, Yemeni Nobel Peace laureate Tawakkol Karman insisted that the United States halt drone attacks in her country. And the strikes may actually be increasing extremism in her country.

"When you kill people in Yemen, these are people who have families, they have clans, and they have tribes," Gregory Johnsen of Princeton University told PBS Newshour in August. "The United States might target a particular individual because they see him as a member of Al Qaeda; what's happening on the ground is that he's being defended as a tribesman. So you have people flowing into Al Qaeda, not necessarily because they share the same ideology of Al Qaeda, but just so that they can get revenge for their tribesman who has been killed in a drone or airstrike." Last April, a Yemeni activist gave moving testimony before Congress in a rare hearing on the subject (which the Obama Administration refused to attend).
Farea al-Muslimi first laid out his pro-American inclinations: "I don't know if there is anyone on Earth that feels more thankful to America than me." Al-Muslimi actually spent a year in the United States as a high school exchange student, an experience that made him really love America. And yet he testified about how U.S. policy was making life very difficult for him. "The killing of innocent civilians by U.S. missiles in Yemen is helping to destabilize my country and create an environment from which Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula benefits," al-Muslimi said after describing the horrors of civilian casualties in his village caused by a U.S. drone attack. "What radicals had previously failed to achieve in my village, one drone strike accomplished in an instant: there is now an intense anger and growing hatred of America."

A blog is your source?

How about something with substance instead? You know, like an actual poll on drone strikes against terrorists.

In U.S. 65 Support Drone Attacks on Terrorists Abroad

In U.S., 65% Support Drone Attacks on Terrorists Abroad

 

[Derideo_Te]

Bibi s dangerous deal with Republicans i24news - See beyond

Republicans are helping Netanyahu to beat his rivals in Israel, he is helping them humiliate their president

In the 1983 Israel State Cup soccer competition, Hapoel Tel Aviv played against Maccabi Tel Aviv. The victory goal was scored by Hapoel player Gili Landau. It was a historic goal. Not because of its beauty, but because Landau, a brilliant footballer, scored the goal with his hand, under the referee's nose.

Netanyahu is not Gili Landau. Not at all. But the technique is the same technique: What isn't accomplished with the leg will be accomplished with the hand; what doesn’t work in Israel will work in Washington.

The invitation Netanyahu received from United States House of Representative Speaker John Boehner, to address a joint session of the two houses of Congress, is a brilliant electoral trick.

It is acceptable for foreign leaders in directly interfere in US politics?

In my humble opinion, it is neither more nor less acceptable than it is for leaders of our country to directly interfere in the politics of other nations. Not that we have ever done that or ever would, right?

Could another nation drone us, with the same impunity with which Obama uses our drones?

Would world opinion really be against such a turnabout, if say, ISIS droned some golf courses Obama likes?

Or worse?

Drones are already being used by drug cartels to bring cocaine into this nation. Won't be long before terrorists figure out how to use them too.

And yes, people in America won't be happy when that starts happening but you can't stop the technology. They will just develop countermeasures.

 

[Carla_Danger]

It is acceptable for foreign leaders in directly interfere in US politics?

Who, Obama? I thought he got elected fair and square.

He did get elected fair and square, and he's not a foreign leader, so maybe you should stick to meditation.

 

[Katzndogz]

obastard's sucking up to Iran has eclipsed Chamberlain's sucking up to Hitler. At least Chamberlain didn't arm the nazis.

The United States has no president acting in it's interests. Someone has to. Boehner is stepping into the massive breach by getting information on Iran that the presidunce hides.