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my fingers hit buttons that do odd things. watch your face.
I see--It's classified. We just trust that it's all in America's best interest and we are getting a great bang for our bucks and trouble.
"Trust but we won't let you verify" type of deal. That doesn't go over real well with a lot of Americans--can you blame them ?
I never said it was classified so please stop acting like a child? What I did say is there are classified docs covering it. I listed one public doc that has been used to lay out our relationship.
We the people will never have a say in what gets classified and we will never be able to challenge the national security decisions (if secret at the time) of the people we elect to represent us. The relationship is based on trust. We cannot verify what our leaders are doing in the world of espionage. There are actually laws against us doing so in certain ways.
A lot of Americans have N-O-T-H-I-N-G in common with you......
...or even with me. So can the wingnut 101 or like I said....outta here.
I sense you are bright and a bit more knowledgeable than you appear in your usual childish rants. Please save them for other threads? I do enjoy acting like a dick too, but not right here or right now.
deal?
Much of the Relationship Is Classified
There are other issues affecting the public discourse on U.S.-Israel defense ties. Much of the U.S.-Israel strategic relationship is classified, particularly in the area of intelligence sharing. There are two direct consequences from this situation. First, most aspects of U.S.-Israel defense ties are decided on the basis of the professional security considerations of those involved. Lobbying efforts in Congress cannot force a U.S. security agency to work with Israel
"Much of the Relationship is Classified"
Fine--keep it classified--it just serves to encourage people to continue to question the benefits of suppporting Israel with billions of dollars .
It doesn't matter if it's a liability or not. Being an ally to Israel is the right thing to do, and I support it even if it completely destroys us.
It doesn't matter if it's a liability or not. Being an ally to Israel is the right thing to do, and I support it even if it completely destroys us.
Allying yourself with terrorists (Hamas, Hezzies, AQ) is a compromise on principals. One of the things that makes America great is our tendency to stay true to our principals.
Allying yourself with terrorists (Hamas, Hezzies, AQ) is a compromise on principals. One of the things that makes America great is our tendency to stay true to our principals.
anyone see carter's interview that "hamas can be trusted" .........
anyone see carter's interview that "hamas can be trusted" .........
It doesn't seen an especially radical claim to make, considering that Israel was the instigator of their most recent clash, as they typically are.
really....i missed the part where israel launched rockets from gaza into israel breaking the cease fire......
It doesn't matter if it's a liability or not. Being an ally to Israel is the right thing to do, and I support it even if it completely destroys us.
Typical thinking of an American Zionist
Israel before the United States.
German Jews thought the same way towards their country.
Someday American citizens will be forced to come to the same conclusion.
More accurately, it is morality and justice above selfish interest and greed. And like peon said, German Jews felt VERY MUCH German, and were VERY patriotic toward Germany. If we weren't the objects of Nazi persecution, I am not confident that I could say that we wouldn't have helped Germany concentrate the other groups.It doesn't matter if it's a liability or not. Being an ally to Israel is the right thing to do, and I support it even if it completely destroys us.
Typical thinking of an American Zionist
Israel before the United States.
German Jews thought the same way towards their country.
Someday American citizens will be forced to come to the same conclusion.
I don't care if I have enemies, as long as those enemies are unjust, and their enmity derives fromtheir immorality. I don't give a fuck about befriending terrorists.It doesn't matter if it's a liability or not. Being an ally to Israel is the right thing to do, and I support it even if it completely destroys us.
Then maybe you should move to Israel, since you're more interested in the survival of Israel than the survival of the U.S. And the unconditional and unregulated support of Israel will invariably lead to existential threats to the U.S.
Nor is there a moral ground to justify unconditional aid to Israel any more than there is a strategic one.
Do you realize the anger I feel toward your misrepresentation? Help me stop you from making misrepresentations.anyone see carter's interview that "hamas can be trusted" .........
It doesn't seen an especially radical claim to make, considering that Israel was the instigator of their most recent clash, as they typically are.
