Is the left really against schools hiring students or is the issue Gingrich said it?

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Are liberals really against schools paying kids to do tasks around the school?

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  1. Yes, liberals really oppose it

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  2. No, it's only because Newt said it

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  1. kaz
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    Arguments used against me by the left on this include:

    - It's "forcing" students to work to pay them to do jobs around the school
    - If students are to do jobs, we should force all students to do them, not pay some of them to do them
    - It's depriving janitors of their livelihood.
    - 10 year old will be forced to clean bathrooms
    - Newt saying our child labor laws are stupid can only mean he wants to repeal all labor laws.

    I have a hard time seeing in real life that if schools offered students work for chores around the school that the liberals would say or even think any of these things. I think they'd be OK with it. But you tell me, is that really the issue? Or is it a partisan attack against Gingrich?

    I'd like you liberals to think about this and just be honest. Would you seriously make these arguments if your local school just did it? They offered kids money to perform chores around the school?
     
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    Good questions!
     
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    Aw geeze not this shit again!

    The child labor laws will not be repealed. You see, there REALLY IS a Santa!

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    I could see an inner city educational activist suggesting some sort of on-campus job corps for high school students. And I could see the left embracing it.
     
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    Good point, Kaz. Don't forget they'll probably die of hepatitus or in the coal mines.
     
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    High school students already worked in schools when I was in high school. They took up the lunch money in the cafeteria and some washed dishes. They did this so they could pay for their lunches. I'm pretty sure this hasn't changed here.
     
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    Taken as a part of the overall attack on labor by the right it is a not something I would ever approve of.
     
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    You mean, union thugs, not labor.

    Only about 11% of the workforce is unionized, and that drops to about 7% if you take out the government 'workers'. (Not that I've ever seen any of these people actually do 'work'.)

    I think the idea he was trying to get across was making work part of education, and making pride in a school part of the experience. Wow. What a concept.


    Nope, better to leave things like they are, where thanks to the union teachers (who make less than the janitors) 20% of them can't read their diplomas.

    Meanwhile, all being good Sidwell Liberals, the Democrats send their kids to private schools.
     
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    Kids are used as cash machines by the school already. They are sent out as salesmen several times during the year at my kids' school. It was even worse when they were in Portland.
     
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    Good point. So out of curiosity are you aware of any liberals having a cow over it?
     

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