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no such thing as magical spirits or the occult
War, disease, and natural disaster will reduce the population. It always does. It's just a matter of time.
Don't forget asteroids.
The point out that with 9 Billion people spread out over the 6 inhabitable continents the worlds population density would be slightly more than half of Frances today. Have you been to France? Not exactly over populated.
An unalienable right requires no contribution or participation by any other person so procreation would not be an unalienable right. It definitely requires contribution and/or participation by one or more others. However, in a free society, a woman does have the choice to become pregnant and bear a child if she can find another willing to participate in that process.\
She does NOT have an unalienable right to require others assist her in that process though.
She does NOT have an unalienable right to require others to assist her in the care, support, and rearing of the child produced.
And she does not have an unalienable right to abuse or neglect the child with impunity.
All of that is acquired through social contract by which human naturally or legally cooperate to accomplish certain goals. In a free society such participation, however, is a choice with such choice, for or against, being an unalienable right.
The best and only certain check on unhealthy population growth is to recognize and respect human rights accompanied by increased prosperity. All developed nations that have reach that point have sharply reduced birth rates, some in the break even or even negative range.
The fact that you feel the need to even ask that question tells me our Constitution is not being taught well in school.
Life, Liberty and the PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS.
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Hey genius, that's not in the constitution, that's from the Declaration of Independence.
You're an absolute joke gUY! ~BH
Yep. Still in effect. A later ruling said you can't discriminate based the type of crime, though. Buck v. Bell was never overturned.
Thanks, but it is a pretty old ruling. Is it still considered the operative precedent?Buck v. Bell, 274 U.S. 200 (1927)
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Hey genius he asked our Opinions. I was not implying that it was in the Constitution. I was simply saying that IMO the right to procreate is part of the pursuit of happiness.
Why do you dismiss the Deceleration by the way? After all that document was explaining why we were seeking to self govern in the first place. Does it not.
Why don't you point out the Provision of the Constitution that gives the Fed the Power to tell you, you can not procreate?
After all the Constitution is essentially a list of things the Fed can and can not do to you. Not a list of rights.
Hey dumb shit? Why don't you give us all a lesson on the Constitution then? I doubt your doped up self could even quote the Bill of Rights alone.
Is the right to spawn children a God given or constitutional right?
I ask because a guy in LA voluntarily submitted to castration this week to qualify for parole as a sex offender.
I also ask because the Chinese one child policy doesn't recognize any natural right to bear children.
I also ask because some decade soon most of the world will be embracing all manner of cloaked and overt emphasis toward reversing the population explosion.
I also ask because we don't need 6 billion, or 9 billion or 12 billion people sucking the life and resources out of the planet. Or at least I can't think of a single reason why we need or want so many people choking the life out of the planet.
And I ask because the castration tactic may be a final solution for a LOT of our social ills. It may be adopted as a voluntary option if you want parole as a sex offender, or if you want to receive public services, or for other reasons, criminal offenses as just one example. But I think the day is coming when most of the world will be selecting who can and who can not breed.
We don't have much of a problem with mass murder, not as a species or as a society. We embrace genocide and war regularly and usually with very little persuasion required to "bring us onboard". So I won't take any moral arguments posited as serious discussion. We are, after all, an immoral species and we always have been an immoral species. We have no problem denying people their God given rights, enslaving them, brutally murdering them or condemning them to starvation. We are so casual in committing these crimes that we ordinarily don't admit that they are occurring or measure them with the same moral compass we would apply if A) somebody had done the same to us or B) if we were committing this crime against somebody who we consider one of US.
So as a matter of opinion, principle, law, pragmatism is procreation a God given or constitutional right?
The point out that with 9 Billion people spread out over the 6 inhabitable continents the worlds population density would be slightly more than half of Frances today. Have you been to France? Not exactly over populated.
Sure but their math includes Antarctica, Siberia and Canada as land mass. Once you exclude that land mass the world's population would be equal to the pop density of France.
Is France a net importer or net exporter of food, oil, water?
Is the right to spawn children a God given or constitutional right?
I ask because a guy in LA voluntarily submitted to castration this week to qualify for parole as a sex offender.
I also ask because the Chinese one child policy doesn't recognize any natural right to bear children.
I also ask because some decade soon most of the world will be embracing all manner of cloaked and overt emphasis toward reversing the population explosion.
I also ask because we don't need 6 billion, or 9 billion or 12 billion people sucking the life and resources out of the planet. Or at least I can't think of a single reason why we need or want so many people choking the life out of the planet.
And I ask because the castration tactic may be a final solution for a LOT of our social ills. It may be adopted as a voluntary option if you want parole as a sex offender, or if you want to receive public services, or for other reasons, criminal offenses as just one example. But I think the day is coming when most of the world will be selecting who can and who can not breed.
We don't have much of a problem with mass murder, not as a species or as a society. We embrace genocide and war regularly and usually with very little persuasion required to "bring us onboard". So I won't take any moral arguments posited as serious discussion. We are, after all, an immoral species and we always have been an immoral species. We have no problem denying people their God given rights, enslaving them, brutally murdering them or condemning them to starvation. We are so casual in committing these crimes that we ordinarily don't admit that they are occurring or measure them with the same moral compass we would apply if A) somebody had done the same to us or B) if we were committing this crime against somebody who we consider one of US.
So as a matter of opinion, principle, law, pragmatism is procreation a God given or constitutional right?
Hey dumb shit? Why don't you give us all a lesson on the Constitution then? I doubt your doped up self could even quote the Bill of Rights alone.
Go away and don't come back until you have something of substance to contribute.
The point out that with 9 Billion people spread out over the 6 inhabitable continents the worlds population density would be slightly more than half of Frances today.
The point out that with 9 Billion people spread out over the 6 inhabitable continents the worlds population density would be slightly more than half of Frances today.
Not all land across the 6 inhabited continents is suitable to sustain human life. There are further issues with having enough room in which to sustain the supplies of human life. Humans need room for agriculture, for example. It's just not as simple as you're making it sound.
The point out that with 9 Billion people spread out over the 6 inhabitable continents the worlds population density would be slightly more than half of Frances today.
Not all land across the 6 inhabited continents is suitable to sustain human life. There are further issues with having enough room in which to sustain the supplies of human life. Humans need room for agriculture, for example. It's just not as simple as you're making it sound.
Is the right to spawn children a God given or constitutional right?
I ask because a guy in LA voluntarily submitted to castration this week to qualify for parole as a sex offender.
I also ask because the Chinese one child policy doesn't recognize any natural right to bear children.
I also ask because some decade soon most of the world will be embracing all manner of cloaked and overt emphasis toward reversing the population explosion.
I also ask because we don't need 6 billion, or 9 billion or 12 billion people sucking the life and resources out of the planet. Or at least I can't think of a single reason why we need or want so many people choking the life out of the planet.
And I ask because the castration tactic may be a final solution for a LOT of our social ills. It may be adopted as a voluntary option if you want parole as a sex offender, or if you want to receive public services, or for other reasons, criminal offenses as just one example. But I think the day is coming when most of the world will be selecting who can and who can not breed.
We don't have much of a problem with mass murder, not as a species or as a society. We embrace genocide and war regularly and usually with very little persuasion required to "bring us onboard". So I won't take any moral arguments posited as serious discussion. We are, after all, an immoral species and we always have been an immoral species. We have no problem denying people their God given rights, enslaving them, brutally murdering them or condemning them to starvation. We are so casual in committing these crimes that we ordinarily don't admit that they are occurring or measure them with the same moral compass we would apply if A) somebody had done the same to us or B) if we were committing this crime against somebody who we consider one of US.
So as a matter of opinion, principle, law, pragmatism is procreation a God given or constitutional right?
Key Word Voluntarily.I ask because a guy in LA voluntarily submitted to castration this week to qualify for parole as a sex offender.
So now we should base our policies on what a Communist/Totalitarian 1 Party state does? China has nearly 4 times our population and less usable Land than we do. Not sure why you make the Comparison anyways.I also ask because the Chinese one child policy doesn't recognize any natural right to bear children.
Interesting, you base your Socialism on Marx without hesitation. Come down to a child issue and you run for denial.
The jan 2011 Edition of National Geographic says By 2050 the world as a whole will have reached replacement levels of new Births. Meaning as developing Nations like China and India Develop, They will start having less kids, just like much of the Already developed world already has. Meaning that by 2050 births will be matching Deaths and the World Populations will stabilize. The Same article Debunks the "Population Explosion Theory" Claiming the explosion is already over. You should read the article. It says World Population will stabilize, and makes a good case that the Idea that the world can not support 10 or even 20 Billion is simply not true. They make one point that you could fit all the people on the planet right now into an area about the size of LA.I also ask because some decade soon most of the world will be embracing all manner of cloaked and overt emphasis toward reversing the population explosion.
So as a matter of opinion, principle, law, pragmatism is procreation a God given or constitutional right?
IMO it absolutely is a right. That is not to say it can not be taken away. We have other rights, like the right to vote, that can indeed be taken away if you do something that merits it.
