Is ObamaCare Headed for a Supreme Court Smackdown?

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  1. Philobeado
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    The founding fathers were very smart...


    Remember the State of the Union Address? In January, Obama took a cheap shot at the Supreme Court's courageous decision in the Citizens United case, upholding free speech and overturning key provisions of the "McCain-Feingold" law. Congressional Democrats whooped and jeered at the Court like obnoxious schoolboys. The Court was humiliated. Justice Alito shook his head in disgust and muttered that the President's remarks were "not true." In March, Chief Justice Roberts told an audience at the University of Alabama that the behavior of the President and the Congressional Democrats was "very troubling," and questioned why the Supreme Court should even bother to attend a "political pep rally." Roberts' remarks caused the White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs to issue a snarky rebuttal, again condemning the Court's decision.


    It is quite likely that the "individual mandate" in ObamaCare requiring all Americans to purchase health insurance against their will is unconstitutional. But after the State of the Union dust-up, the Court has more than just technical legal motives to take up the case. Madison lamented that reliance on personal motives and ambitions "should be necessary to control the abuses of government" but understood that this was a "reflection on human nature."




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    I hope the healthcare scam is tied-up in the courts until the GOP gets enough power to repeal it.
     
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    "Courageous" decision "upholding free speech"? That's one way of characterizing it, I suppose. Another might be: A totally political decision by a right-wing Supreme Court. The only thing "cheap" about the entire affair is the way in which the Supremes shoved this one down the throat of the country - all for the purpose of fostering a conservative agenda.

    Really? Funny, I didn't see any of that.

    As well it should have been.

    Well, they were.

    The only thing here that is "very troubling" is the decision itself. A huge victory for Big Business, of course. A sad day for our elective process.

    So the Supreme Court should overturn the health bill simply because the President criticized them during the State of the Union address? Tell me you aren't saying this and that you don't believe it if you are.

    Unbiased source, I see . . .
     
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    Wishful thinking from the right...

    This bill will not be overturned by the courts
     
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    According to the Meeting today with the Parliamentarian The Republicans are doing what they always seem to do... Talking out the back of their a--es before they even bother to get their facts straight...
    Allow me to School you on the facts:

    1) The Stumbling Bumbling Republicans thought they had a potential bomb waiting for the Democrats in the Senate which was called the 310G point of order involving Social Security, which said "if Social Security was effected by this Bill, the whole entire bill goes down in flames it could not be reconciled thru the Senate without 60 Votes to over rule that ruling from the Senate Parliamentarian...
    a) They presented this argument for feedback today to the Parliamentarian and guess what the Democrats where able to site a 1995 previous Senate Ruling on this issue which favored them on the 310G point of order and the Parliamentarian nodded and asked the Republicans in the room if they had anything to respond to this and they did not. In fact the Republicans didn't even know about this ruling and were unprepared to respond to it...
    Late this evening the Senate Parliamentarian made his ruling in favor of the Democrats on this which was the Republicans Biggest Hope to bring down the Bill... And Ruled against the Republican Objection based on the effect on Social Security Argument already...

    As to the mandate, The Federal Law Supersedes State Law the last time I checked. If the Federal Government can mandate that each driver must have a drivers license as well as auto insurance they cane mandate health insurance... The Republican side shows are nothing more than a bad episode of the 3 Stooges surrounding this...

    Lastly as to this entire Repeal the Bill B.S.... How dumb does a Republican have to be to recognize that President Obama has a little tool at his disposal called the VETO PIN? They can't Repeal any Bill that he decides to VETO?

    What we are witnessing is Amateur Hour from the Republican Party right now... It's Pathetic!
    And Oh by the Way...
    How's That Scott Brown Thingy Working Out For Yah these days?? LOL!!
     
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    This is definitely going to end up before the SCOTUS.

    Commerce Clause
    14th Amendment
    Social Security diversion

    The bill is just chock full of violations and abuses of power.

    It's going to be quite a show - I hope they show the hearings on CSPAN.
     
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    The bill itself? Well, most likely not. But at least the mandate privision will.
     

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