David Frum: Republican Waterloo

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    LEFT OF THE RIGHT: Health Care Reform... | Gather

    March 22, 2010 11:28 AM EDT (Updated: March 22, 2010 11:51 AM EDT)
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    In a historic moment so profound they’re only seen every few decades, the House of Representatives passed the health care bill Sunday evening by a margin of 219 to 212. Most Republicans are saying it will be detrimental to the Democrats in Novembers elections because (in their words,) “the American people are against this bill.” But a more moderate and reasonable voice on the Right sees last nights vote very differently.

    Conservative pundit, columnist, and speech writer for President Bush, David Frum says the Republicans have no one to blame but themselves for what he called their “most crushing legislative defeat since the 1960s.” Mr. Frum posted an article Monday morning laying out the reasons the Republican strategy of “no cooperation” has amounted to a Waterloo for the GOP rather than Obama.

    In his article Frum points out that it was the Right Wing talking heads that painted the Republicans into a proverbial corner. With Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck describing the Democrats as Nazi’s who want to kill your grandmother, how can you negotiate with someone like that. He also said the Republican hopes for regaining seats in the upcoming elections in November may be over-optimistic. “once people start receiving the goodies from the health care bill” it’s going to be pretty hard to run against that. And even if the Republicans do pull off another 1994 landslide, repealing the bill will be impossible. How do you tell seniors we’re going to put the hole back in the donut? How can you tell the 25 year old we’re going to take your health insurance away? You’re not says Mr. Frum.

    As devastating as David Frum’s comments about the Republican’s strategy during this debate is, this correspondent believes the negative tone and tolerance for and encouragement of the TEA Party protestors will be even more difficult for the GOP to overcome this November. All week reports of TEA Party protesters yelling racial epitaphs at black legislators and even spitting on one were all over the news stations. And one Republican actually yelled “baby killer” at representative Stupac when he stood up to announce he would oppose the motion to re-commit forwarded by the Republicans.

    History has shown us that candidates for office that exude an angry and negative tone don’t do well in elections. And if the Republicans believe they can win in November on a “repeal the health care bill” platform, I’m afraid their hopes for regaining the majority will fall the way of their effort to kill the health care bill.

    The reconciliation portion of the bill still needs to be passed by the Senate. But for all intents and purposes the bill will soon be the law of the land. And despite what the Republicans are saying, the sun will still rise every morning and the United States of America will continue to be the worlds bastion of freedom, liberty, and opportunity.
     
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    very good post, and informative too.
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    David Frum posts at USMB as "Jake Starkey"
     
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    If the Dems didn't pass this bill, they would have lost in November.

    NOW, they only have to debate against liars who clearly don't want what is right for middle class Americans.

    They defend the out of control insurance companies and oil companies.

    They wanted GM and Chrysler to die. Imagine how bad things would have gotten if that happened?

    And Obama's stimulus package is working.

    Now the Dems will focus on job creation for the rest of the year. And the GOP will fight us on all of our ideas, and they will be punished at the polls.

    I was worried for a while there that the Dems were going to not get anything done and then that would have resulted in certain defeats this November. Now, the GOP have to stick with their position, which happens to be wrong.

    But if the Dems didn't get healthcare passed, not only would the GOP say our ideas were wrong, they would also say that we couldn't get anything done.

    Now they can't claim the Dems did nothing, because we did something very major. Now they can only continue to lie and tell people how bad this healthcare bill is.

    But then they won't vote to fix any of the problems that exist, because that would be helping Obama and all they care about is sabotaging the man.
     
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    Uh-huh Ted Kennedy's seat isn't occupied by a Republican....
    The dems didn't lose in NJ & VA...

    Thankfully some folks need to learn the hard way. We'll see in 2010 and 2012 which party loses power...
     
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    Ted Kennedy didn't own any seat. He won with votes.

    Scott Brown is no true blue Conservative.

    baaaaaaaaah, baaaaaaaaaaaaah, baaaaaaaaah...

    wait and see.
     
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    The party in power famously loses some seats in the midterms.
    After his triumph yesterday, Obama will easily win reelection against the likes of Palin or Romney.
     
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    Palin has no chance and you are correct.
    Romney is a solid candidate.
     
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    Some trend

    In the last year the Republicans lost one Senate seat in PA and regained one Senate Seat in Mass

    They lost one House seat in NY
     

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