Is Obama retarded or lying?

[IlarMeilyr]

You have to repeat things constantly with Progressives, they can't learn on their own, they have to be trained like monkeys or dogs

Dogs can eventually be trained.

Not the AGW faith based cultists.

 

[edthecynic]

You have to repeat things constantly with Progressives, they can't learn on their own, they have to be trained like monkeys or dogs

Dogs can eventually be trained.

Not the AGW faith based cultists.

You can always tell when the Right know they lost the argument, they desperately try to change the subject!!!

 

[IlarMeilyr]

You have to repeat things constantly with Progressives, they can't learn on their own, they have to be trained like monkeys or dogs

Dogs can eventually be trained.

Not the AGW faith based cultists.

You can always tell when the Right know they lost the argument, they desperately try to change the subject!!!

You can always tell when a leftist stooge like ed has lost the argument: he whines a bit harder and objects to having his "arguments" countered by facts which he cannot refute. So, he just ignores them.

Pathetic, ed. You really are quite pathetic.

 

[percysunshine]

The Left have never come to terms with being refered to as 'Not the Right'. Who wants to be wrong all the time?

I think they are French.

 

[Nova78]

Is Obama retarded or lying?

Both,he is a lying retard...............

 

[Dragonlady]

The idea of spending 14 pages arguing over who came up with the idea of the sequestration is beyond stupid. You're all idiots. Argue about who's a liberal and who's a conservative as if this shit matters. It doesn't. You're so busy flinging insults and abuse at one another, nothing gets discussed, much less resolved.

 

[percysunshine]

The idea of spending 14 pages arguing over who came up with the idea of the sequestration is beyond stupid. You're all idiots. Argue about who's a liberal and who's a conservative as if this shit matters. It doesn't. You're so busy flinging insults and abuse at one another, nothing gets discussed, much less resolved.

So which government budget needs to be cut first?

Real cuts, not just slow downs in the rate of growth.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

The idea of spending 14 pages arguing over who came up with the idea of the sequestration is beyond stupid. You're all idiots. Argue about who's a liberal and who's a conservative as if this shit matters. It doesn't. You're so busy flinging insults and abuse at one another, nothing gets discussed, much less resolved.

^ well that sure helps us further the discussion and resolve things.

The point of the discussion is that the PRESIDENT is the one who is attempting to get away with one of his regular lies.

HE and his team do bear some initial responsibility for the notion of the sequester. (Yeah yeah, so do Boehner and the GOP "team.") But now that his idea is the law, but he considers it to be in his political interest to point the finger at the GOP, he lies to claim it was all their idea.

No. It wasn't. The President is just a liar.

And it does matter because if we want to prevent the dope from cramming more of his crap down our collective throats, he needs to get CALLED on all of his lies. Regularly.

 

[AmericanFirst]

It was Obama who proposed the gutless, thoughtless Sequester, now he's saying his own idea will devastate us. Is he retarded or lying?

Both.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

The idea of spending 14 pages arguing over who came up with the idea of the sequestration is beyond stupid. You're all idiots. Argue about who's a liberal and who's a conservative as if this shit matters. It doesn't. You're so busy flinging insults and abuse at one another, nothing gets discussed, much less resolved.

It was Obama idea and now he's calling it harsh and brutal.

Why did your Messiah even suggest it in the first place?

 

[AmericanFirst]

The idea of spending 14 pages arguing over who came up with the idea of the sequestration is beyond stupid. You're all idiots. Argue about who's a liberal and who's a conservative as if this shit matters. It doesn't. You're so busy flinging insults and abuse at one another, nothing gets discussed, much less resolved.

It was Obama idea and now he's calling it harsh and brutal.

Why did your Messiah even suggest it in the first place?

Because obamaturd is beyond stupid.

 

[candycorn]

The Left have never come to terms with being refered to as 'Not the Right'. Who wants to be wrong all the time?

I think they are French.

The GOP lost the last two times they took him on....

 

[IlarMeilyr]

The Left have never come to terms with being refered to as 'Not the Right'. Who wants to be wrong all the time?

I think they are French.

The GOP lost the last two times they took him on....

And yet, the same people who mistakenly voted to put Obama into the White House and keep him there ALSO voted to saddle him with a huge check: A House of Representatives with a majority of the opposing political Party.

I applaud the American electorate for at least tempering their collective brain fart.

 

[edthecynic]

The Left have never come to terms with being refered to as 'Not the Right'. Who wants to be wrong all the time?

I think they are French.

The GOP lost the last two times they took him on....

And yet, the same people who mistakenly voted to put Obama into the White House and keep him there ALSO voted to saddle him with a huge check: A House of Representatives with a majority of the opposing political Party.

I applaud the American electorate for at least tempering heir collective brain fart.

Again we see the complete ignorance of the Misinformation Voter who swallows the GOP crapaganda without question. Gerrymandering and nothing else gave the GOP control of the House!

 

[IlarMeilyr]

The GOP lost the last two times they took him on....

And yet, the same people who mistakenly voted to put Obama into the White House and keep him there ALSO voted to saddle him with a huge check: A House of Representatives with a majority of the opposing political Party.

I applaud the American electorate for at least tempering heir collective brain fart.

Again we see the complete ignorance of the Misinformation Voter who swallows the GOP crapaganda without question. Gerrymandering and nothing else gave the GOP control of the House!

^ Sure.

Ed thinks he has even a gram of credibility.

 

[LeftofLeft]

why did the Rs run with it if it was such a bad "Obama" Idea?

The President and his Party own it. Now, we get to see leadership and accountability?????

 

[Redbone]

So you really DON'T want any Bi-Partisan efforts, you support giving Obama dictatorial/monarchical powers, got it.

they hate their OWN ideas the second Obama likes them.

Yet they blame Obama for thinking of an idea that they then used and now call stupid.

wow such braintrusts

Same kind of fools gave rise to Hitler. Every generation has such ignorant people. Seems we now have them in spades.

 

[ima]

Obama is only half black, so he's only half retarded and lying.

 

[taichiliberal]

Incorrect.

I do NOT place the blame WHOLLY on Obama.

I just don't accept silently Obama's deliberate lie that the blame is with Boehner and the GOP.

To the extent that the idea CAME from team Obama (as per Obama's own press secretary, lest we forget), then it is rational to recognize that Obama gets MORE of the blame.

It makes it damn sordid of him to be trying to pass that buck at this stage. So, fuck that inept bumbling buffoon. Let the sequester happen.

The sequester came from team GOP, they had been pushing it since May 2011 in the debt ceiling fiasco.

Bill Text - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

Returning to Responsible Fiscal Policies Act

SEC. 253A. ENFORCING GDP OUTLAY LIMITS.

`(a) Enforcing GDP Outlay Limits- In this section, the term `GDP outlay limit' means an amount, as estimated by OMB, equal to--
`(1) the average GDP for the first 5 of the 6 fiscal years preceding the target fiscal year; multiplied by
`(2) 23 percent for fiscal year 2012; 22 percent for fiscal year 2013; 21 percent for fiscal year 2014; 19.5 percent for fiscal year 2015; and 18 percent for fiscal year 2016 and each subsequent fiscal year.
`(b) GDP Outlay Limit and Outlays-
`(1) DETERMINING THE GDP OUTLAY LIMIT- The Office of Management and Budget shall estimate the GDP outlay limit for the target fiscal year at the outset of the previous fiscal year, on April 30, on August 20, and 15 days after the conclusion of the fiscal year. CBO shall provide advisory reports calculating the GDP outlay limit at identical times.
`(2) TOTAL FEDERAL OUTLAYS- In this section, total Federal outlays shall include all on-budget and off-budget outlays.
`(c) Sequestration-
`(1) IN GENERAL-
`(A) EXCESS SPENDING- Not later than 45 calendar days after the beginning of a fiscal year, OMB shall conduct a sequestration to eliminate the excess outlay amount.

so are you now claiming that the mean ole GOP forced it on poor little barry from chicago?

Learn to read, stupid. It's on the Congressional record. Like it or not, your tin gods in the GOP are lying their asses off.

http://factcheck.org/2013/02/the-obamaquester/

 

[IlarMeilyr]

The sequester came from team GOP, they had been pushing it since May 2011 in the debt ceiling fiasco.

Bill Text - 112th Congress (2011-2012) - THOMAS (Library of Congress)

Returning to Responsible Fiscal Policies Act

SEC. 253A. ENFORCING GDP OUTLAY LIMITS.

`(a) Enforcing GDP Outlay Limits- In this section, the term `GDP outlay limit' means an amount, as estimated by OMB, equal to--
`(1) the average GDP for the first 5 of the 6 fiscal years preceding the target fiscal year; multiplied by
`(2) 23 percent for fiscal year 2012; 22 percent for fiscal year 2013; 21 percent for fiscal year 2014; 19.5 percent for fiscal year 2015; and 18 percent for fiscal year 2016 and each subsequent fiscal year.
`(b) GDP Outlay Limit and Outlays-
`(1) DETERMINING THE GDP OUTLAY LIMIT- The Office of Management and Budget shall estimate the GDP outlay limit for the target fiscal year at the outset of the previous fiscal year, on April 30, on August 20, and 15 days after the conclusion of the fiscal year. CBO shall provide advisory reports calculating the GDP outlay limit at identical times.
`(2) TOTAL FEDERAL OUTLAYS- In this section, total Federal outlays shall include all on-budget and off-budget outlays.
`(c) Sequestration-
`(1) IN GENERAL-
`(A) EXCESS SPENDING- Not later than 45 calendar days after the beginning of a fiscal year, OMB shall conduct a sequestration to eliminate the excess outlay amount.

so are you now claiming that the mean ole GOP forced it on poor little barry from chicago?

Learn to read, stupid. It's on the Congressional record. Like it or not, your tin gods in the GOP are lying their asses off.

No. It's not in the Congressional Record.

All that shows is that they DID, indeed, pass a law. But that's not the question./

The QUESTION is who came UP with the idea this time around?

Obama Press Secretary Carney conceded that it was the Obama Team.