Is it time to legalize pot and reduce the death rate of tobacco and alcohol?

[Full-Auto]

legalizing pot will have ZERO effect on tobacco and alcohol use.

Proof? Evidence?

Ask any cop or other first responder if they would rather respond to a situation where people are drunk or high on MJ?

Ask any medical professional which substance has the most negative impact on health and well being? In a word, Tobacco.

How much revenue would be made by taxing MJ?

How much revenue would be saved by not enforcing MJ laws?

Why does the DEA continue to maintain MJ as a schedule I substance?

Why do conservatives oppose allowing each state to outlaw or regulate the production, sales, possession and use of MJ? (In my opinon because 'conservatives' are for the most part hypocrites).

Just conservatives?

Obama issued wonderful Lip service about medical MJ, then unleashed the dogs.

Wake up for once in your life.

 

[SnakeDr]

If you are not for legal marijuana then you really don't want the government out of your life do you??

 

[GuyPinestra]

People assume that pot will lower the rates of death for tobacco and alcohol users because some will switch their vice from smokes or booze to weed, thats an awful lot of assuming.

I'm guessing it WILL change the numbers for alcohol related deaths, but not by any GREAT amount.
I know that if I could smoke legally there would be fewer instances that I would drink a 12 pack of beer.
But that's just me, you wanna take a survey?

 

[TakeAStepBack]

legalizing pot will have ZERO effect on tobacco and alcohol use.

Proof? Evidence?

Ask any cop or other first responder if they would rather respond to a situation where people are drunk or high on MJ?

Ask any medical professional which substance has the most negative impact on health and well being? In a word, Tobacco.

How much revenue would be made by taxing MJ?

How much revenue would be saved by not enforcing MJ laws?

Why does the DEA continue to maintain MJ as a schedule I substance?

Why do conservatives oppose allowing each state to outlaw or regulate the production, sales, possession and use of MJ? (In my opinon because 'conservatives' are for the most part hypocrites).

Just conservatives?

Obama issued wonderful Lip service about medical MJ, then unleashed the dogs.

Wake up for once in your life.

No shit. The only guy out there in running for office right now that would like to leave it to the states is ron paul. Obama will never defer to the states on such a thing because he wants to be the dictator and run the entire show.

Calling this a conservative issue is plain blind partisanship.

People are ridiculous when ti comes to their favorite team in politics.

 

[Full-Auto]

Proof? Evidence?

Ask any cop or other first responder if they would rather respond to a situation where people are drunk or high on MJ?

Ask any medical professional which substance has the most negative impact on health and well being? In a word, Tobacco.

How much revenue would be made by taxing MJ?

How much revenue would be saved by not enforcing MJ laws?

Why does the DEA continue to maintain MJ as a schedule I substance?

Why do conservatives oppose allowing each state to outlaw or regulate the production, sales, possession and use of MJ? (In my opinon because 'conservatives' are for the most part hypocrites).

Just conservatives?

Obama issued wonderful Lip service about medical MJ, then unleashed the dogs.

Wake up for once in your life.

No shit. The only guy out there in running for office right now that would like to leave it to the states is ron paul. Obama will never defer to the states on such a thing because he wants to be the dictator and run the entire show.

Calling this a conservative issue is plain blind partisanship.

People are ridiculous when ti comes to their favorite team in politics.

I cheered when reading Obama was backing off of medical MJ

It was lip service only. A few months later the justice dept started raiding dispensaries across the nation.

 

[uscitizen]

If you are not for legal marijuana then you really don't want the government out of your life do you??

Wow talk about a single issue view.

Heal some more snakes.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Of course they did. They will sell it back onto the street for money. That's what it is really all about. Money. At this point, the hardcore growers and dealers would prefer it remain illegal as there is much more money in it on the black market than in the corner stores and dispensories.

Hilarious, really.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

If we have problems with substance abuse why would anyone want to make that worse?

....As if there's any substance that would/COULD make Teabaggers MORE-ignorant.

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[Wry Catcher]

legalizing pot will have ZERO effect on tobacco and alcohol use.

Proof? Evidence?
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Show me a study that says pot legalization will lower alcohol or tobacco use.

Show me a study which says pot legalization wouldn't lower alcohol or tobacco use.

MJ is a multi billion dollar black market; simply having MJ removed as a scheudle I drug and allowing each state to outlaw or regulate it makes sense. If any drug belongs on Schedule I, it is tobacco.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

legalizing pot will have ZERO effect on tobacco and alcohol use.

You "conservatives" surely do (seem to) enjoy your Absolutes.

I never could understand your relentless pursuit/retention of ignorance.​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Question: would any parent here want their child driven to school on a bus with a driver that was smoking pot 10 minutes before getting behind the wheel?

....You mean, like all those commercial-airline pilots who've flown (drunk), for how-many years????

Yeah.....we can (all) come-up with Worst Case Scenarios....but, we've (also) gotta consider the Facts.

Myth:

MARIJUANA IS A MAJOR CAUSE OF HIGHWAY ACCIDENTS

 

[uscitizen]

Of course they did. They will sell it back onto the street for money. That's what it is really all about. Money. At this point, the hardcore growers and dealers would prefer it remain illegal as there is much more money in it on the black market than in the corner stores and dispensories.

Hilarious, really.

That is true and many on the govt side make their living from fighting the illegal MJ trade/growing.

100 billion or so a year worth of jobs and such.

Same thing with kiddie porn and other illegal activities.

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Question: would any parent here want their child driven to school on a bus with a driver that was smoking pot 10 minutes before getting behind the wheel?

Are you suggesting that because it is illegal, people don't already do that?

Bus drivers have random drug screenings for this very reason. So the question does not address the legality of the substance.

....Not-to-mention the FACT....a positive-result (for Pot) does NOT indicate intoxication....only that the person (tested) has indulged....possibly, over the last 20-30 days.​

 

[TakeAStepBack]

running low on crayons, shaman?

 

[uscitizen]

 

[Mr. Shaman]

legalizing pot will have ZERO effect on tobacco and alcohol use.

Proof? Evidence?
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Show me a study that says pot legalization will lower alcohol or tobacco use.

So, you're admitting this is (only) your personal-opinion; that you have ZERO actual-knowledge, regarding the issue.

I'd assumed as much, seeing-as-how I saw NUMEROUS-cases of bar-fighters (back, in the early-'70s) change-their-ways (i.e. cut, way-back on their drinking), once they found a substance that had a more-calming affect, on them (but, still got 'em "high"). This also had a more-calming affect on local bar-patrons.....and, local-cops!!

I can't say documented-proof, of this, exists....but, if you know someone who was in their early-20s (back, then).....who lived in a working-class environment....when guys were comin'-back from 'Nam.....they should have ZERO-problems verifying this.​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

People assume that pot will lower the rates of death for tobacco and alcohol users because some will switch their vice from smokes or booze to weed, thats an awful lot of assuming.

It's no "assumption".​

 

[Mr. Shaman]

Question: would any parent here want their child driven to school on a bus with a driver that was smoking pot 10 minutes before getting behind the wheel?

Are you suggesting that because it is illegal, people don't already do that?

Bus drivers have random drug screenings for this very reason. So the question does not address the legality of the substance.

No. I am suggesting that with pot being illegal, its use in the scenario I described is lower than that of alcohol. Making it legal would likely increase its use in the scenario I described.

"Likely" doesn't COUNT!!!!

WITH Prohibition, it's more-likely the kids are who's "high".

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[Dr.Drock]

Should've never been illegal.

I graduated high school in '03, and marijuana was 100 times easier to get than alcohol. So all these old bags who say "Nooooooo don't legalize it, think of the children, THE CHILDREN!!!" just aren't in touch whatsoever with reality. Hell I bet coke was easier to get than alcohol (I've never done coke or weed.

Big gov't programs, gang bangers, thugs, terrorists, druglords, all absolutely love the drug war.

The thing hurt by the drug war the most, americans and the american economy.

I know what side I'm on.

 

[The Rabbi]

Should've never been illegal.

I graduated high school in '03, and marijuana was 100 times easier to get than alcohol. So all these old bags who say "Nooooooo don't legalize it, think of the children, THE CHILDREN!!!" just aren't in touch whatsoever with reality. Hell I bet coke was easier to get than alcohol (I've never done coke or weed.

Big gov't programs, gang bangers, thugs, terrorists, druglords, all absolutely love the drug war.

The thing hurt by the drug war the most, americans and the american economy.

I know what side I'm on.

Why do you think increasing drug abuse in this country is a good idea?