Is it time to end US asylum?

[candycorn]

Going through these threads on the separation of children and adults, it seems to me asylum seekers are using children to divide Americans. It also seems they are abusing our generous asylum policies to sneak into the country.

And as usual, it's divided on political lines. On the left, the tears flow over children being separated from their so-called parents, and on the right, tough love is the only way to have a long lasting solution.

But the solution to both of our concerns is just to end asylum in the US. Yes, we tried to be nice, we tried to be caring, but our empathy is now being used as a tool against us.

After getting rid of asylum, no more will these children be our concern. We won't have to be criticized about separation of children and adults because they won't be in this country. And if we are to have any kind of asylum, it must be done via mail. You can still apply for asylum from your country, but you need to request an asylum application from Washington DC. We will mail your application to you, and you can send it back postage paid. If you and your children are caught on US land, your application will immediately be rejected.

There, problem solved. Next?

It is absolutely not time to end asylum. In fact, it should be expanded. This country has some work to do to regain a position of moral and ethical leadership in the world, which itself is important to the relative global peace we have experiences for decades. While M.A.D. may prevent world wars between superpowers, most countries are neither nuclear-armed nor superpowers. The relative peace we experience is in no small part due to other countries aspiring to the freedom, both economically and ideologically, that the facade of the United States represents. Please spare me the comments of people who don't and didn't view the US this way, as I am aware of their existence. The point is...do we want a world with fewer or more of those people? Fewer, easy answer. And the path to that result is through humanism-based morality and reason-based law.

It is hard to see any nation willing to accept us as a moderator in their local or regional disputes when we are now scene as an unjust people. The upshot to that is though...if we're not seen as an honest broker, surely other nations are not seen that way either

 

[Unkotare]

Going through these threads on the separation of children and adults, it seems to me asylum seekers are using children to divide Americans. It also seems they are abusing our generous asylum policies to sneak into the country.

And as usual, it's divided on political lines. On the left, the tears flow over children being separated from their so-called parents, and on the right, tough love is the only way to have a long lasting solution.

But the solution to both of our concerns is just to end asylum in the US. Yes, we tried to be nice, we tried to be caring, but our empathy is now being used as a tool against us.

After getting rid of asylum, no more will these children be our concern. We won't have to be criticized about separation of children and adults because they won't be in this country. And if we are to have any kind of asylum, it must be done via mail. You can still apply for asylum from your country, but you need to request an asylum application from Washington DC. We will mail your application to you, and you can send it back postage paid. If you and your children are caught on US land, your application will immediately be rejected.

There, problem solved. Next?

Problem in no way solved. Stop being a simpleton and try again.

How is the problem not solved? Stop the problems before they get here. I think that's a pretty good solution.

You think that because you are a simpleton. Your ill-considered idea would only take an option away from a truly compassionate nation helping those who truly need it. The rest will just continue to enter illegally the old fashioned way, likely at greater risk to themselves and ICE officers.

 

[Issa]

Going through these threads on the separation of children and adults, it seems to me asylum seekers are using children to divide Americans. It also seems they are abusing our generous asylum policies to sneak into the country.

And as usual, it's divided on political lines. On the left, the tears flow over children being separated from their so-called parents, and on the right, tough love is the only way to have a long lasting solution.

But the solution to both of our concerns is just to end asylum in the US. Yes, we tried to be nice, we tried to be caring, but our empathy is now being used as a tool against us.

After getting rid of asylum, no more will these children be our concern. We won't have to be criticized about separation of children and adults because they won't be in this country. And if we are to have any kind of asylum, it must be done via mail. You can still apply for asylum from your country, but you need to request an asylum application from Washington DC. We will mail your application to you, and you can send it back postage paid. If you and your children are caught on US land, your application will immediately be rejected.

There, problem solved. Next?

If it wasn't for asylum you or your ancestors wouldn't be here. Be kind, God gave this land to HUMANS not to a specific group of people Mr conservative.

 

[Papageorgio]

We need to keep asylum, we need to adjust what asylum is and the reasons you can gain asylum but we need to keep it.

 

[Darkwind]

Asylum is very hard to get . It’s the last gasp of immigration.

--------------------------------------- so what Timmy ??

So you idiots are making a big deal over nothing . The % of approved asylum is very small .

You think that mom shows up with kid and it’s instant approved asylum!

No moron. Mom's show up with kids, apply for asylum, and imbicils like you say we have to keep them until they are processed. So you give them a court date (because legal machinations take years, not days), and tell them to show up.

What happens is they disappear into America and show up as uncle Ed in a voter role somewhere, pulling the lever for fucking Chuck-u Schumer.

 

[Darkwind]

We need to keep asylum, we need to adjust what asylum is and the reasons you can gain asylum but we need to keep it.

We need to alter it to "Apply first, show up after".

In other words, if you show up on our doorstep and ask for asylum, the answer is an unequivocal, "no".

Apply in advance or stay the hell home.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

We need to keep asylum, we need to adjust what asylum is and the reasons you can gain asylum but we need to keep it.

The problem is we already have criteria for applying, but they come here anyway even though they don't meet that criteria. Kind of like playing a lottery ticket, and then they gum up the works.

There is only one way to stop it, and that's end asylum in the US.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Going through these threads on the separation of children and adults, it seems to me asylum seekers are using children to divide Americans. It also seems they are abusing our generous asylum policies to sneak into the country.

And as usual, it's divided on political lines. On the left, the tears flow over children being separated from their so-called parents, and on the right, tough love is the only way to have a long lasting solution.

But the solution to both of our concerns is just to end asylum in the US. Yes, we tried to be nice, we tried to be caring, but our empathy is now being used as a tool against us.

After getting rid of asylum, no more will these children be our concern. We won't have to be criticized about separation of children and adults because they won't be in this country. And if we are to have any kind of asylum, it must be done via mail. You can still apply for asylum from your country, but you need to request an asylum application from Washington DC. We will mail your application to you, and you can send it back postage paid. If you and your children are caught on US land, your application will immediately be rejected.

There, problem solved. Next?

If it wasn't for asylum you or your ancestors wouldn't be here. Be kind, God gave this land to HUMANS not to a specific group of people Mr conservative.

Do you even know what asylum is? Apparently not by your post.

 

[harmonica]

YES--like 20 years ago this should've been gone

 

[harmonica]

Ok. So when the Afghan interpreter for the US military needs to flee because he helped US soildiers and now has a taliban bounty on his head , he’s screwed? Sorry buddy, should’ve helped the Americans !

yes--tough shit for him .....just like in Vietnam--it's their country......

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Going through these threads on the separation of children and adults, it seems to me asylum seekers are using children to divide Americans. It also seems they are abusing our generous asylum policies to sneak into the country.

And as usual, it's divided on political lines. On the left, the tears flow over children being separated from their so-called parents, and on the right, tough love is the only way to have a long lasting solution.

But the solution to both of our concerns is just to end asylum in the US. Yes, we tried to be nice, we tried to be caring, but our empathy is now being used as a tool against us.

After getting rid of asylum, no more will these children be our concern. We won't have to be criticized about separation of children and adults because they won't be in this country. And if we are to have any kind of asylum, it must be done via mail. You can still apply for asylum from your country, but you need to request an asylum application from Washington DC. We will mail your application to you, and you can send it back postage paid. If you and your children are caught on US land, your application will immediately be rejected.

There, problem solved. Next?

Problem in no way solved. Stop being a simpleton and try again.

How is the problem not solved? Stop the problems before they get here. I think that's a pretty good solution.

You think that because you are a simpleton. Your ill-considered idea would only take an option away from a truly compassionate nation helping those who truly need it. The rest will just continue to enter illegally the old fashioned way, likely at greater risk to themselves and ICE officers.

Yes, it would take that option away. That's the idea. The program is now a problem, so get rid of the program. We tried compassion. It isn't working. They are using our compassion against us. How many times does your GF have to cheat on you before you break up with her?

 

[sparky]

The problem is ,America will always and a day be disneyland compared to the countries who's citizens wish to escape from Ray

No amount of 'paperwork' or 'policy', nor 'wall' is going to stop them.

None of that has ,or is going to, detert them from trying anything to land on our turf.

We need to reverse engineer this whole debauchery

What the world needs to do is, focus on those countries they're fleeing from, not the USofA

Place the onus of humanitarianism upon Mexico, Belize, Nicaragua ,Costa Rica, Guatemala ,Brazil, Venezula before the world court , along with the vatican mouthpieces, and the rest of this rock's bloody do gooders

they either man up, or are sanctioned into oblivion

~S~

 

[iceberg]

Going through these threads on the separation of children and adults, it seems to me asylum seekers are using children to divide Americans. It also seems they are abusing our generous asylum policies to sneak into the country.

And as usual, it's divided on political lines. On the left, the tears flow over children being separated from their so-called parents, and on the right, tough love is the only way to have a long lasting solution.

But the solution to both of our concerns is just to end asylum in the US. Yes, we tried to be nice, we tried to be caring, but our empathy is now being used as a tool against us.

After getting rid of asylum, no more will these children be our concern. We won't have to be criticized about separation of children and adults because they won't be in this country. And if we are to have any kind of asylum, it must be done via mail. You can still apply for asylum from your country, but you need to request an asylum application from Washington DC. We will mail your application to you, and you can send it back postage paid. If you and your children are caught on US land, your application will immediately be rejected.

There, problem solved. Next?

does it matter what name they use to get over here? if they went by the process and through the right "gate" they can claim asylum and there is no issue. it's the ones doing it illegally who are having the issues. end asylum and they just sit there instead starting at you with a "now what" look on their faces.

well, now what?

asylum does need to be strictly used by it's purpose and not "i hate my country, i want asylum" cause that ain't it. but then i have no idea how the term is being used or again, if they just don't care and flood the borders anway. same results in the end really.

we need a bigger solution that would involve a better work visa program and identification of the people who want to come over. if criminals, ain't no change in hell, sparky, and then we involve the mexican gov to take them back and do whatever they want to do with their own criminals. their choice. but something like that needs to be in the mix in a joint cooperative deal with mexico.

"hey, we'll revamp our work visa program and help many of these come over for the summer for work. we all benefit. they pay taxes and into the system they will temporarily be a part of, and at the end of the work season they go home. if they wish to apply to be a citizen, then we use this time to educate them on the proper process to do so and start the clock, following up as we can. but until approved, they go back home and wait. mexico will need to help us also properly identify who's who and take ownership of their own criminals. we'll help start up an island in the pacific somewhere we can drop them off to kill each other for all we care.

but something like that seems far more effective than a wall or what we're doing now and works to resolve problems, not just make it harder to do.

ending asylum wouldn't change a thing and i don't think we should when there are legitimate people out there looking for it properly. end the abuse of it? well we can try and i'm in for that.

 

[Unkotare]

As I said...simpleton.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Going through these threads on the separation of children and adults, it seems to me asylum seekers are using children to divide Americans. It also seems they are abusing our generous asylum policies to sneak into the country.

And as usual, it's divided on political lines. On the left, the tears flow over children being separated from their so-called parents, and on the right, tough love is the only way to have a long lasting solution.

But the solution to both of our concerns is just to end asylum in the US. Yes, we tried to be nice, we tried to be caring, but our empathy is now being used as a tool against us.

After getting rid of asylum, no more will these children be our concern. We won't have to be criticized about separation of children and adults because they won't be in this country. And if we are to have any kind of asylum, it must be done via mail. You can still apply for asylum from your country, but you need to request an asylum application from Washington DC. We will mail your application to you, and you can send it back postage paid. If you and your children are caught on US land, your application will immediately be rejected.

There, problem solved. Next?

Were it my call, I'd march them all right back across the border at gunpoint, and the Democrats - as much now a burden to this country as any army of foreign invaders - along with them.

 

[Marion Morrison]

We should have some limited asylum slots in America, absolutely we should. Definitely not 10K or more from one place, though.

Maybe 1/10 of that. We can't just admit whole foreign towns into the US. That's what Obama did with Somalians in Minnesota.

100K of them. Grr.

 

[eagle1462010]

The problem is ,America will always and a day be disneyland compared to the countries who's citizens wish to escape from Ray

No amount of 'paperwork' or 'policy', nor 'wall' is going to stop them.

None of that has ,or is going to, detert them from trying anything to land on our turf.

We need to reverse engineer this whole debauchery

What the world needs to do is, focus on those countries they're fleeing from, not the USofA

Place the onus of humanitarianism upon Mexico, Belize, Nicaragua ,Costa Rica, Guatemala ,Brazil, Venezula before the world court , along with the vatican mouthpieces, and the rest of this rock's bloody do gooders

they either man up, or are sanctioned into oblivion

~S~

Finally someone who understands.

 

[Polishprince]

Going through these threads on the separation of children and adults, it seems to me asylum seekers are using children to divide Americans. It also seems they are abusing our generous asylum policies to sneak into the country.
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"Asylum" may have its place, but under the regime of the lyin' Kenyan, B. Hussein O., the deep state set up rules where anyone can "claim" asylum and stay in America indefinitely. Well, at least as long as the Ultraliberal leaders of their homeland don't want them returned- if you'll remember Elian Gonzalez.

The entire asylum racket needs overhauled.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Bring asylum claims back to reality. No more gang fights. No more husband abuse. No more nonsense.

I can agree with this for the most part.

 

[Claudette]

Going through these threads on the separation of children and adults, it seems to me asylum seekers are using children to divide Americans. It also seems they are abusing our generous asylum policies to sneak into the country.

And as usual, it's divided on political lines. On the left, the tears flow over children being separated from their so-called parents, and on the right, tough love is the only way to have a long lasting solution.

But the solution to both of our concerns is just to end asylum in the US. Yes, we tried to be nice, we tried to be caring, but our empathy is now being used as a tool against us.

After getting rid of asylum, no more will these children be our concern. We won't have to be criticized about separation of children and adults because they won't be in this country. And if we are to have any kind of asylum, it must be done via mail. You can still apply for asylum from your country, but you need to request an asylum application from Washington DC. We will mail your application to you, and you can send it back postage paid. If you and your children are caught on US land, your application will immediately be rejected.

There, problem solved. Next?

Great post and I agree 100%.

The time for allowing everyone into this country is long past.

We have more than enough people in this country.

Anyone wanting to come in to work should be granted work visas. Do the work. Get paid and go the hell home.

As for asylum?? There are hundreds of countries out there. Let them apply to one of them. We sure as shit don't need any more people in our country.