CDZ Is it Time to Break Up the FBI and CIA?

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    In all fairness, these agencies have legitimate roles in governance. They could be rebranded, or purged of the incompetent, but the roles will not go away.
     
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    Yes, break them up into separate agencies based ont he function, b ut splinter this IC behemoth so it can no longer threaten our Republic with its skullduggery.
     
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    Time to move the entire DOJ out from under the Executive Branch. Trump has demonstrated what a corrupt President could and can do when the investigators are under the thumb of the person they are investigating.
     
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    You need to look up the definition of treason in the Constitution.

    As to the rest.... no.
     
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    I am using treason in the vernacular, not in the context of constitutional law.

    These Deep State Praetorians need to be dismantled and made unable to influence our political process in any way, shape or form.
     
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    That word is tossed around far too often. There is a reason the founding fathers considered that crime, above any other, required a specific definition to prevent its misuse. To suggest an affront to the president constitutes treason is to suggest the president embodies the state. That is a real danger to our freedoms. We don't have kings here.

    What these folks need is to be supported in a very difficult job and listened to. Not automatically attacked because they are saying something we don't want to hear.
     
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    And place it where?
     
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    Independent federal office. We elect congressmen every 2 years. Why not put the AG and DOJ under their purview on the same short leash. If we do that, the President can’t reward the AG with favorable treatment.
     
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    So you want a DOJ outside of control of elected officials? Based upon the theory that you can't have a corrupt AG?
     
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