CDZ Is it Time to Break Up the FBI and CIA?

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    No. Based on the AG owing their job to the person they may have to investigate.
     
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    Luckily, it's a non-issue.
     
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    And replace them with what? Does any reasonable person believe this country can get along without an investigative agency for federal crimes? Or an Intelligence agency that tries to get information about what our enemies are up to? No DEA? Really? How about ICE? Get rid of that too?

    The problem with these agencies is not within them but without: the oversight and executive control is lacking, and today's judicial branch doesn't have the authority or maybe it's the balls to rein in the various Executive agencies. Some of that is due to the irresponsible and cowardly inaction on the part of the Legislative Branch who obviously isn't doing their job, and has virtually surrendered much of their power to the President. But the answer is not to abolish those agencies but rather to make sure they are run properly.
     
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    What do you replace a malignant tumor with?
     
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    You don't, you surgically remove it and you don't replace it. You can't do that with the above named agencies.

    You dodged the question. The functions that these and other federal executive branch agencies must be performed. So, how do you plan on doing that, or do you really think those functions are unnecessary?
     
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    Devolve those functions to state agencies....Y'know, the "conservative" (whatever the hell that's supposed to mean anymore) thing to do.
     
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    Abolish them. We have justice departments within our states.
     
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    Ha. You beat me to it.
     
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    Agreed, there is nothing mystical about the FBI and the CIA that must be handled at the Federal level. And now that it is clear they are both compromised, they are doing a disservice to the country.

    They really MUST be dissolved because you cannot have partisan intelligence. You just can't. The temptation to use the power of the intelligence agencies for political gain is too great. As we have seen these last 3 years.
     
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    Have you guys thought this through? You want 50 different state agencies determining who broke what federal laws? We got federal laws, right? That apply to every America citizen regardless of where they live. What are you going to do, abolish all federal laws too? Might as well, since you won't have an FBI, US Marshal's Office and every other federal law enforcement agency in existence.

    So tell me, what are you going to do when a neighboring state with different laws and lacking enough enforcement resources has gangs coming into your state, doing whatever they want, and the returning to their state? You gonna have your state militia gear up and start a war?

    You want 50 state agencies guarding the southern border and processing immigrants into the US? You want 50 different state agencies doing what the DEA, ICE, and BATF does? Yeah, I can see that working out, with 50 different interpretations and enforcement of various laws regarding interstate commerce. We wouldn't have a United States any more, we'd have 50 sovereign states doing their own thing.
     
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