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Is it Moral to steal one mans property to give to another man? Is it Moral to take MORE of one man's property because he has more, than another man's property for the common good?
Is it Moral to force those that can work and will work to pay for those that refuse to work?
Is it Moral to steal one mans property to give to another man?
Is it Moral to take MORE of one man's property because he has more, than another man's property for the common good?
Is it Moral to force those that can work and will work to pay for those that refuse to work?
Depends. Can you give us more data?
Yes. But again, it might not be depending on circumstances
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Well we sorted out the absolutists and the relativists
Depends? Forcing one man to pay Higher tax percentage just because he makes more is always wrong. It is immoral as hell.
If it is wrong to force those that can work to pay for those that won't work, then taking more of one persons money then another is the same thing.
Lysander Spooner said:It is self-evident that no number of men, by conspiring, and calling themselves a government, can acquire any rights whatever over other men, or other men's property, which they had not before, as individuals. And whenever any number of men, calling themselves a government, do anything to another man, or to his property, which they had no right to do as individuals, they thereby declare themselves trespassers, robbers, or murderers, according to the nature of their acts.
On what?Is it Moral to steal one mans property to give to another man? - It depends.
On what?Is it Moral to take MORE of one man's property because he has more, than another man's property for the common good? - It depends.
But Marx did say, "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."Is it Moral to force those that can work and will work to pay for those that refuse to work? - No. And before you start spouting off about socialism, that "no" is exactly what Marx wrote.
If you think that progressive tax scales are immoral then explain why they are.
Giving money to bludgers who won't work is a separate policy issue.
Well we sorted out the absolutists and the relativists
Wingnuts like RGS use words and concepts out of their proper context in order to support their simplistic view of living in modern society. Stealing is always wrong but borrowing in a pinch is morally Ok. But that is not our favorite wingnuts' point in this thread, eventually he gets there, and mentions his real nemesis, taxes.
Taxes provide for our freedoms and our standard of living, the small amount that goes to a family in need is just that, a small amount. I personally think it is our duty as moral beings to support those in need, so calling this stealing is off the wall and just another example of the social darwinist people we have become in this nation under republican voodoo economics.
"Freedom depends on how men actually do behave, not upon how they are allowed to behave. It is a matter of character, not of foolproof constitutional devices. For fools are paramount in politics, and there is nothing which they are unable to destroy." p 156 The Liberal Mind Kenneth Minogue
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On what?
On what?
But Marx did say, "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs."
The Government is given a collective right to tax in order to run the Country and ensure the Government functions. A progressive tax penalizes a portion of that citzenry for the affront of having more then others. It does not matter one whit how much tey have, they are citizens of the Country and have the same rights and protections as everyone else.By devising an imaginary monetary line and saying any with this much must give even MORE than all the rest you defeat and destroy the very concept of fair or equal.
You turn the given power into a corrupting tool used to steal rather than tax. Just as it is unfair and unequal to take money or property from those that work and give it to those that will NOT work it is the same when you take a larger percentage from one person simply because they have more.
This Country is supposed to be a Representative Republic AND the original Government payments were from States , small states did not pay as much as large State, not because they were being treated differntly but because the money to run the Government was apportioned based on POPULATION, not on income or output.
Taxes provide for our freedoms ??? Please explain and include how much tax you paid to speak freely.
Wingnuts like RGS use words and concepts out of their proper context in order to support their simplistic view of living in modern society. Stealing is always wrong but borrowing in a pinch is morally Ok. But that is not our favorite wingnuts' point in this thread, eventually he gets there, and mentions his real nemesis, taxes.
Taxes provide for our freedoms and our standard of living, the small amount that goes to a family in need is just that, a small amount. I personally think it is our duty as moral beings to support those in need, so calling this stealing is off the wall and just another example of the social darwinist people we have become in this nation under republican voodoo economics.
"Freedom depends on how men actually do behave, not upon how they are allowed to behave. It is a matter of character, not of foolproof constitutional devices. For fools are paramount in politics, and there is nothing which they are unable to destroy." p 156 The Liberal Mind Kenneth Minogue
Online Library of Liberty - Titles
It appears you think money = freedom.Wingnuts like RGS use words and concepts out of their proper context in order to support their simplistic view of living in modern society. Stealing is always wrong but borrowing in a pinch is morally Ok. But that is not our favorite wingnuts' point in this thread, eventually he gets there, and mentions his real nemesis, taxes.
Taxes provide for our freedoms and our standard of living, the small amount that goes to a family in need is just that, a small amount. I personally think it is our duty as moral beings to support those in need, so calling this stealing is off the wall and just another example of the social darwinist people we have become in this nation under republican voodoo economics.
"Freedom depends on how men actually do behave, not upon how they are allowed to behave. It is a matter of character, not of foolproof constitutional devices. For fools are paramount in politics, and there is nothing which they are unable to destroy." p 156 The Liberal Mind Kenneth Minogue
