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And yet it wasn't designed to be a business. It was designed to serve the people. Soviet has nothing to do with it. Much like the electoral college, the postal service is made to serve rural people, disadvantaged by their distance from populated areas. Instead of perceiving it as soviet, why not celebrate it for its role as a vital national glue?Do you consider the postal service communist, or Cuban?
yes, and a good example, like health care and education, of what happens when monopolistic bureaucratic soviet govt runs something.
And yet it wasn't designed to be a business.
I suppose you could argue the same thing about the armed forces? You could get the job done with private contractors, no need for pensions, etc. But would it be right?And yet it wasn't designed to be a business.
and so it costs us 4 times what it should cost us thus depriving many of the quality they could afford in a capitalist system. Do you know why everybody starved to death in USSR and Red China?? Because of the national glue you insanely talk about.
I suppose you could argue the same thing about the armed forces?
The military is also a socialistic system. I was following your argument logically.I suppose you could argue the same thing about the armed forces?
I have heard many argue that free market consumer oriented health care is a good idea but never anyone argue that it would work for the military. care to try again??
The military is also a socialistic system.
No, that is communismThe military is also a socialistic system.
actually socialism is about govt ownership control management of business not the military. Sorry to rock your world.
No, that is communismThe military is also a socialistic system.
actually socialism is about govt ownership control management of business not the military. Sorry to rock your world.
Just that you seem to be picky and choosy about what is acceptable socialismNo, that is communismThe military is also a socialistic system.
actually socialism is about govt ownership control management of business not the military. Sorry to rock your world.
???? so what???? socialism is a stepping stone to communism according to Marx and???????????????
I realize that the popular consensus among liberals is that people form their political convictions primarily from self-interest. They are surprised when voters vote against programs and policies that help them personally - usually pointing to it as a sign of ignorance, and not giving them credit for any kind of broader vision. How many times will liberals be surprised by this before they start to question their assumptions?No, what most people want is healthcare that will be there when they need it regardless of their financial situation. Whether it is controlled by the state, the federal government, or whoever is not a major concern of anyone accept political pundits.The attempt to label various services as "rights" is disingenuous propaganda. It's a lever on the common, and correct, understanding that government's primary mission statement is to protect our rights - above all other state interests. But the real goal has nothing to do with rights, some people just want government to control health care, even if it must violate our rights to do so.
Although the rights specified in constitution have changed little, people enjoy many rights today that are not listed in the constitution such as the right to an education, the right to marry who you choose, the right to privacy, and the right to vote.
Can I ask how you define a 'right'? You're clearly using a different definition than I am. My understanding is that rights are freedoms that are off-limits. Whatever else government may be trying to accomplish, it isn't allowed to violate individual rights in the process. Rights protect the freedom of the individual from the will of the people.
The bottom line is a right is a very general term that often needs qualifying.
Which might explain why every country that beats the US in education recognizes every child's right to an education and more importantly, centralizes education policy as a key focus of the nation. In this country, the qualify of a child's education depends on each state and local school district, a system that guarantees a wide disparity in qualify and relatively poor overall results.
Where did you learn that? My kids went to school around the world as we were on postings, and I can say that the calibre of teacher was high, and the support of families for their children's education was awe inspiring. In those countries, being a teacher is a highly respected profession. I pity teachers hereWhich might explain why every country that beats the US in education recognizes every child's right to an education and more importantly, centralizes education policy as a key focus of the nation. In this country, the qualify of a child's education depends on each state and local school district, a system that guarantees a wide disparity in qualify and relatively poor overall results.
Don't believe the hype. Other countries don't do any better at educating anyone, they just cheat the statistics.
Do you consider the postal service communist, or Cuban?One of the biggest problems in our system is we use all of the above which results in the most expensive healthcare in the world and not the best care.
the only problem with our system is it is not capitalist it is socialist or Cuban which we know will not work. Do you understand?
And yet it wasn't designed to be a business. It was designed to serve the people. Soviet has nothing to do with it. Much like the electoral college, the postal service is made to serve rural people, disadvantaged by their distance from populated areas. Instead of perceiving it as soviet, why not celebrate it for its role as a vital national glue?Do you consider the postal service communist, or Cuban?
yes, and a good example, like health care and education, of what happens when monopolistic bureaucratic soviet govt runs something.
And yet it wasn't designed to be a business. It was designed to serve the people. Soviet has nothing to do with it. Much like the electoral college, the postal service is made to serve rural people, disadvantaged by their distance from populated areas. Instead of perceiving it as soviet, why not celebrate it for its role as a vital national glue?Do you consider the postal service communist, or Cuban?
yes, and a good example, like health care and education, of what happens when monopolistic bureaucratic soviet govt runs something.
Because, as has been proven, there are some functions that the USPS serves that can now be done better by private enterprise.
Likewise, a free market system in healthcare, with perhaps governmental assistance only for those who truly cannot acquire healthcare on their own, would provide better service.
And yet it wasn't designed to be a business. It was designed to serve the people. Soviet has nothing to do with it. Much like the electoral college, the postal service is made to serve rural people, disadvantaged by their distance from populated areas. Instead of perceiving it as soviet, why not celebrate it for its role as a vital national glue?Do you consider the postal service communist, or Cuban?
yes, and a good example, like health care and education, of what happens when monopolistic bureaucratic soviet govt runs something.
Because, as has been proven, there are some functions that the USPS serves that can now be done better by private enterprise.
Likewise, a free market system in healthcare, with perhaps governmental assistance only for those who truly cannot acquire healthcare on their own, would provide better service.
Yes the few who truly could not afford capitalist healthcare could be given Vouchers convertible to cash at the end of the year so they would shop carefully for their healthcare among providers competing on the basis of price and quality. Capitalism would probably reduce the cost of healthcare 80%
Yes and if everybody was shopping like that with their own money for price and quality the downward pressure on price would be tremendous .And yet it wasn't designed to be a business. It was designed to serve the people. Soviet has nothing to do with it. Much like the electoral college, the postal service is made to serve rural people, disadvantaged by their distance from populated areas. Instead of perceiving it as soviet, why not celebrate it for its role as a vital national glue?Do you consider the postal service communist, or Cuban?
yes, and a good example, like health care and education, of what happens when monopolistic bureaucratic soviet govt runs something.
Because, as has been proven, there are some functions that the USPS serves that can now be done better by private enterprise.
Likewise, a free market system in healthcare, with perhaps governmental assistance only for those who truly cannot acquire healthcare on their own, would provide better service.
Yes the few who truly could not afford capitalist healthcare could be given Vouchers convertible to cash at the end of the year so they would shop carefully for their healthcare among providers competing on the basis of price and quality. Capitalism would probably reduce the cost of healthcare 80%
I know that's how it's working for me. My family chose a high-deductible, low-premium health insurance with an HSA, because we're rarely sick enough to require a doctor. This shifted the priorities when choosing our doctors significantly. It became necessary to actually research the doctors in my area to find one who was competent and experienced and ALSO had a low fee scale for routine office visits, in order to minimize the use of my HSA funds so that they would be available in the event of a catastrophic illness. I probably wouldn't have bothered to check their fee scales at all if I'd had health insurance that just covers everything and charges me out the ass for premiums.
Yes and if everybody was shopping like that with their own money for price and quality the downward pressure on price would be tremendous .And yet it wasn't designed to be a business. It was designed to serve the people. Soviet has nothing to do with it. Much like the electoral college, the postal service is made to serve rural people, disadvantaged by their distance from populated areas. Instead of perceiving it as soviet, why not celebrate it for its role as a vital national glue?yes, and a good example, like health care and education, of what happens when monopolistic bureaucratic soviet govt runs something.
Because, as has been proven, there are some functions that the USPS serves that can now be done better by private enterprise.
Likewise, a free market system in healthcare, with perhaps governmental assistance only for those who truly cannot acquire healthcare on their own, would provide better service.
Yes the few who truly could not afford capitalist healthcare could be given Vouchers convertible to cash at the end of the year so they would shop carefully for their healthcare among providers competing on the basis of price and quality. Capitalism would probably reduce the cost of healthcare 80%
I know that's how it's working for me. My family chose a high-deductible, low-premium health insurance with an HSA, because we're rarely sick enough to require a doctor. This shifted the priorities when choosing our doctors significantly. It became necessary to actually research the doctors in my area to find one who was competent and experienced and ALSO had a low fee scale for routine office visits, in order to minimize the use of my HSA funds so that they would be available in the event of a catastrophic illness. I probably wouldn't have bothered to check their fee scales at all if I'd had health insurance that just covers everything and charges me out the ass for premiums.
The Post Office is not a department in the US government and the Postmaster General is no longer a cabinet member. Since 1971, it has operated as an independent agency of the executive branch. The Postmaster General is not appointed by the president but rather the Governors of the Postal Service. It is considered a non-partisan, non-political position.Do you consider the postal service communist, or Cuban?One of the biggest problems in our system is we use all of the above which results in the most expensive healthcare in the world and not the best care.
the only problem with our system is it is not capitalist it is socialist or Cuban which we know will not work. Do you understand?
What is it with you leftists and your "all or nothing" reasoning that if the government does anything, that makes it okay for the government to do EVERYTHING?
The USPS (I know nothing about how the postal service works in Canada) is a department of the US government. It is specified as such in our Constitution. There is nothing "communist" about having a governmental structure that performs certain functions. That has no bearing on the fact that there are many, MANY more things which are not the purview of the government, nor should they be.
