Is Hamas a terrorist organization?

[Roudy]

To say that Hamas wants to kill all the Jews is just Israeli, bullshit, propaganda.

So... you can't admit to yourself or to others that the Hamas charter exists?

Was it signed by anyone?

Provide a list of Hamas officials that do not believe the Hamas Charter and renounce all or parts of it.

Bacheh koony, heyvoun.

 

[P F Tinmore]

To say that Hamas wants to kill all the Jews is just Israeli, bullshit, propaganda.

So... you can't admit to yourself or to others that the Hamas charter exists?

It doesn't matter. The facts on the ground do not match that so called charter.

 

[Roudy]

100 posts later, lots of diversions and deflections, but, Hamas is still a terrorist organization.

 

[P F Tinmore]

100 posts later, lots of diversions and deflections, but, Hamas is still a terrorist organization.

According to the propagandists.

 

[Billo_Really]

Provide a list of Hamas officials that do not believe the Hamas Charter and renounce all or parts of it.

Bacheh koony, heyvoun.

Saigon already did that and you automatically dismissed her comments.

 

[Billo_Really]

It wasn't at all surprising that when pressed to acknowledge the genocidal goals of Hamas, you resorted to spamming the thread instead of addressing that issue.

If you believe in justification for Islamic terrorism, you're not alone with that conviction, obviously. With the koran, there are numerous verses that vilifty Jews so you do have ideological support for those hatreds. It's just a shame that you and your islamist brethren are are the wrong side of humanities interest to move past the petty hatreds that islam engenders.

Fuck off with that bullshit, bitch!

Why should anyone stop their "petty hatred" when you spew it out in spades?

You get what you give!

 

[Billo_Really]

Irgun was formed when Arab animals attacked and massacred Jews in places like Hebron in 1929. Look it up.

Irgun was a jewish terrorist group that drove out over 700,000 arabs that were living in that area before the zionists showed up.

 

[Billo_Really]

Not according to the laws of your country the USA, and the EU, according to them HAMAS IS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. Wake up moron.

On the terrorist watch list? Yes. But no where on that list does it say they're, "BLOODSUCKING ISLAMIST TERRORIST ANIMALS". That's what children say before they grow up and learn how to communicate as adults.

 

[Billo_Really]

You're not telling us anything we already don't know. Bad guys sometimes do good things,and good guys sometimes do bad things, Wow what an amazing revelation! Never heard that one before, you fucking immature, terrorist worshipping moron. ha ha ha!

You talk like that and have the gall to call someone else immature?

Classic!

 

[Roudy]

Scumbags like you will always keep trying to equivocate Islamic terrorist animals like Hamas to the actions of Israel or the US. Nobody's buying it. Hamas without question ARE the bad guys you dumbfuck.

Hamas has never bombed a hospital, Israel has bombed 5.

No, Hamas shoots rockets out of hospitals, mosques, and schools. Same shit the Islamist animals did in Iraq and Afganistan.

 

[Roudy]

Irgun was formed when Arab animals attacked and massacred Jews in places like Hebron in 1929. Look it up.

Irgun was a jewish terrorist group that drove out over 700,000 arabs that were living in that area before the zionists showed up.

Nah, that's Arab drivel and propoganda.

 

[Billo_Really]

Nah, that's Arab drivel and propoganda.

This is the portion of the show where you bend over and assume the position.

You know the drill, let's get this over with!

The great Zionist humanist, Ahad Ha'am warned against the violation of the rights of the Palestinian people, and his words are well known in the literature of Palestine.

"... the [jewish] settlers must under no circumstances arouse the wrath of the natives ... 'Yet what do our brethren do in Palestine? Just the very opposite! Serfs they were in the lands of the Diaspora and suddenly they find themselves in unrestricted freedom and this change has awakened in them an inclination to despotism. They treat the Arabs with hostility and cruelty, deprive them of their rights, offend them without cause and even boast of these deeds; and nobody among us opposes this despicable and dangerous inclination ...'

Looks like a zionist who was around at that time, agrees with me, not you.

Or are you going to make the ridiculous claim that a zionist humanist is anti-semitic?

 

[Billo_Really]

No, Hamas shoots rockets out of hospitals, mosques, and schools. Same shit the Islamist animals did in Iraq and Afganistan.

The Goldberg Report found no evidence of that.

 

[Roudy]

It's the Goldstone report, and it did find that Hamas shoots rockets from residential and other types of buildings, and uses its own people as human shields. Educate yourself a little better.

 

[P F Tinmore]

It's the Goldstone report, and it did find that Hamas shoots rockets from residential and other types of buildings, and uses its own people as human shields. Educate yourself a little better.

I believe you are incorrect. Could you back up what you say?

 

[Roudy]

It's the Goldstone report, and it did find that Hamas shoots rockets from residential and other types of buildings, and uses its own people as human shields. Educate yourself a little better.

I believe you are incorrect. Could you back up what you say?

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-hEbpow5WE]Hamas Uses UNRWA School To Fire Rockets At Southern Israel - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Billo_Really]

It's the Goldstone report,

So I throw the dog a bone and deliberately mispell the report's name, so you'll have at least one argument you won.

Naw, that's not true! I forgot the name and thanks for correcting me.

...and it did find that Hamas shoots rockets from residential and other types of buildings, and uses its own people as human shields. Educate yourself a little better.

First off, you're trying to move the goal posts. I was talking about hospitals, not residential areas, other buildings or human shields. But never fear, loinboy is here and I will address each one as follows...

As far as hospitals, I was correct. The Goldstone Report found no evidence of them being used for military operations.

The Mission did not find any evidence to support the allegations that hospital facilities were used by the Gaza authorities or by Palestinian armed groups to shield military activities and that ambulances were used to transport combatants or for other military purposes.

As far as residential areas, it should be noted that Gaza is an urban area, but that's splitting hairs. The Goldstone Report did find that 1) Palestinian military operations were conducted near urban areas and facilities; 2) it also found no evidence mosque's were used as shields for military operations, but they would not rule it out; However, it should be noted that 3) the Report did not find any of these instances, grave breaches of humanitarian law, but did find the civilians were exposed to unnecessary danger.

1) On the basis of the information gathered, the Mission found that Palestinian armed groups were present in urban areas during the military operations and launched rockets from urban areas.

2) Although the situations investigated by the Mission did not establish the use of mosques for military purposes or to shield military activities, it cannot exclude that this might have occurred in other cases.

3) While the conduct of hostilities in built-up areas does not, of itself, constitute a violation of international law, Palestinian armed groups, where they launched attacks close to civilian or protected buildings, unnecessarily exposed the civilian population of Gaza to danger.

As far as human shields, what I originally said was correct, the Goldstone Report found no evidence of this.

The Mission found no evidence, however, to suggest that Palestinian armed groups either directed civilians to areas where attacks were being launched or that they forced civilians to remain within the vicinity of the attacks.

In closing, your fanatical extremism has once again, bitten you in the ass!

 

[Billo_Really]

BTW, roudy-boy, the Goldstone Report did find 4 instances where the Israeli's used Palestinian human shields.

10. The use of Palestinian civilians as human shields

55. The Mission investigated four incidents in which Israeli forces coerced Palestinian civilian men at gun point to take part in house searches during the military operations (Chapter XIV). The Palestinian men were blindfolded and handcuffed as they were forced to enter houses ahead of the Israeli soldiers. In one of the incidents, Israeli forces repeatedly forced a man to enter a house in which Palestinian combatants were hiding. Published testimonies of Israeli soldiers who took part in the military operations confirm the continued use of this practice, in spite of clear orders from Israel's High Court to the armed forces to put an end to it and repeated public assurances from the armed forces that the practice had been discontinued. The Mission concludes that this practice amounts to the use of Palestinian civilians as human shields and is therefore prohibited by international humanitarian law. It puts the right to life of the civilians at risk in an arbitrary and unlawful manner and constitutes cruel and inhuman treatment. The use of human shields also is a war crime. The Palestinian men used as human shields were questioned under threat of death or injury to extract information about Hamas, Palestinian combatants and tunnels. This constitutes a further violation of international humanitarian law.

Read it and weep, bee-otch!

 

[docmauser1]

the Goldstone Report did find 4 instances where the Israeli's used Palestinian human shields.

Ah, old bull. When palistanian bags are checked by the IDF - palistanians prattle about "private property, dignity" and such; when palistanians are asked to open their bags - palistanians prattle about "human shields". So, palistanians should really be thinking of starting behaving like, say, men? Provided they know what "men" is, of course.

 

[Billo_Really]

Ah, old bull.

How could it be bull, when they used testimonies from IDF soldiers who were there?