CDZ Is China really aggressive?

[Indofred]

Why am I besmirching American troops?....

Everyone knows why, but let's focus on the topic of the thread - if you can.

I was rather hoping someone would manage an actual reason why China is supposed to be aggressive - but no one has come up with one that stands up to reason.

I'm assured, China has designs on Indian lands, but it could equally be, India has designs on Chinese lands.
It simply depends on who'd side you take.
They also manage to quote island disputes, but exactly the same applies.

Other than that, we have posters complaining China is using American naval tactics, and another talking about a dodgy railway, the one China is building to replace an old British colonial era one.
Other than that, China trades with a lot of countries, including the United states of America, but China is evil for dealing with Iran, but Israel also sold a lot of armaments to the Islamic republic.
Israeli Arms Sales to Iran 1986 November

Of course, Israel isn't evil for dealing with the Islamic state, but propaganda tells us, China is.

In fact, for every argument, there's a very easy counter, including China's lack of actually invading anywhere, but it all boils down to BRICS and China's trade with Countries America is trying to break.
Venezuela is a prime example. America tries to destroy them, but China trades with them, breaking the US economic attack.
Venezuela just mortgaged another 4 billion of its oil exports to China 8211 Quartz
The real story goes, Venezuela has a lot of oil, and America wants it, but can't get near because the US spoiler tactics, including CIA agents trying to organize political unrest, have failed, but Chinese capitalism worked.

Basically, all the stories about evil Chinese imperialism are all down to the US propaganda machine.
America is scared of BRICS, a trading system that has taken 25% of world trade away from the Dollar, and America is scared.
The artificial high value of the Dollar is the only reason you can afford your massive national debt, so America has to remove China;s influence in the world.

Meanwhile, from not a lot of anti Chinese stories a couple of years ago, the press is now pumping gullible fools with total crap about China, hoping people are too stupid to actually look behind all the shite they print.

 

[Indofred]

For those complaining about Tibet, US policy states it is part of China.

U.S. urges China to preserve cultural religious identity of Tibet World Uyghur Congress

Beijing (EFE) – The U.S. President Barack Obama on Wednesday urged the Chinese authorities to “take steps to preserve the unique cultural, religious & linguistic identity” of Tibetan people, although he recognized Tibet as part China.

“We are not in favor of Tibet’s independence,” Obama said in a press conference at the Great Hall of the People in Beijing.

This seems to suggest the Tibet question is a lesser problem that some think.

 

[auditor0007]

The last is China's military build up. I maintain this latest increase is entirely in answer to United States forces being in their part of the Pacific, not as an aggressive force, but a defensive one.
Defensive, because the US is going to invade. LOL!

Why do you find that so preposterous, yet at the same time you worry that China could be a threat to the US? Maybe you do not see China as a threat to the US, but many Americans do, the same way China sees the US as a threat. While everyone with a reasonable minds realizes the likelihood of a real attack by either side is next to none, it still behooves everyone to have an adequate military to defend themselves.

 

[Bush92]

China is the enemy and a bigger threat than terrorist. WWIII will be with China and its allies.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The last is China's military build up. I maintain this latest increase is entirely in answer to United States forces being in their part of the Pacific, not as an aggressive force, but a defensive one.
Defensive, because the US is going to invade. LOL!

Why do you find that so preposterous, yet at the same time you worry that China could be a threat to the US? Maybe you do not see China as a threat to the US, but many Americans do, the same way China sees the US as a threat. While everyone with a reasonable minds realizes the likelihood of a real attack by either side is next to none, it still behooves everyone to have an adequate military to defend themselves.

Why do you find that so preposterous,

Only because it is.

yet at the same time you worry that China could be a threat to the US?

Not a threat to us, yet. A threat to all their neighbors, most definitely.

 

[irosie91]

The last is China's military build up. I maintain this latest increase is entirely in answer to United States forces being in their part of the Pacific, not as an aggressive force, but a defensive one.
Defensive, because the US is going to invade. LOL!

Why do you find that so preposterous, yet at the same time you worry that China could be a threat to the US? Maybe you do not see China as a threat to the US, but many Americans do, the same way China sees the US as a threat. While everyone with a reasonable minds realizes the likelihood of a real attack by either side is next to none, it still behooves everyone to have an adequate military to defend themselves.

Why do you find that so preposterous,

Only because it is.

yet at the same time you worry that China could be a threat to the US?

Not a threat to us, yet. A threat to all their neighbors, most definitely.

yes EXACTLY----a threat to their neighbors---a power hungry nation that could pull the world into war

 

[Indofred]

The last is China's military build up. I maintain this latest increase is entirely in answer to United States forces being in their part of the Pacific, not as an aggressive force, but a defensive one.
Defensive, because the US is going to invade. LOL!

Why do you find that so preposterous, yet at the same time you worry that China could be a threat to the US? Maybe you do not see China as a threat to the US, but many Americans do, the same way China sees the US as a threat. While everyone with a reasonable minds realizes the likelihood of a real attack by either side is next to none, it still behooves everyone to have an adequate military to defend themselves.

China is clearly an economic threat to the US, but not a military one.
That's pure propaganda.

 

[irosie91]

The last is China's military build up. I maintain this latest increase is entirely in answer to United States forces being in their part of the Pacific, not as an aggressive force, but a defensive one.
Defensive, because the US is going to invade. LOL!

Why do you find that so preposterous, yet at the same time you worry that China could be a threat to the US? Maybe you do not see China as a threat to the US, but many Americans do, the same way China sees the US as a threat. While everyone with a reasonable minds realizes the likelihood of a real attack by either side is next to none, it still behooves everyone to have an adequate military to defend themselves.

China is clearly an economic threat to the US, but not a military one.
That's pure propaganda.

 

[irosie91]

The last is China's military build up. I maintain this latest increase is entirely in answer to United States forces being in their part of the Pacific, not as an aggressive force, but a defensive one.
Defensive, because the US is going to invade. LOL!

Why do you find that so preposterous, yet at the same time you worry that China could be a threat to the US? Maybe you do not see China as a threat to the US, but many Americans do, the same way China sees the US as a threat. While everyone with a reasonable minds realizes the likelihood of a real attack by either side is next to none, it still behooves everyone to have an adequate military to defend themselves.

China is clearly an economic threat to the US, but not a military one.
That's pure propaganda.

Germany was not a military threat to the USA in 1940, either. Your fellows made quite an issue of that fact
in the islamo Nazis propaganda way back then----some
things never change

 

[Indofred]

The last is China's military build up. I maintain this latest increase is entirely in answer to United States forces being in their part of the Pacific, not as an aggressive force, but a defensive one.
Defensive, because the US is going to invade. LOL!

Why do you find that so preposterous, yet at the same time you worry that China could be a threat to the US? Maybe you do not see China as a threat to the US, but many Americans do, the same way China sees the US as a threat. While everyone with a reasonable minds realizes the likelihood of a real attack by either side is next to none, it still behooves everyone to have an adequate military to defend themselves.

China is clearly an economic threat to the US, but not a military one.
That's pure propaganda.

Germany was not a military threat to the USA in 1940, either. Your fellows made quite an issue of that fact
in the islamo Nazis propaganda way back then----some
things never change

What has that rubbish got to do with China?

 

[irosie91]

The last is China's military build up. I maintain this latest increase is entirely in answer to United States forces being in their part of the Pacific, not as an aggressive force, but a defensive one.
Defensive, because the US is going to invade. LOL!

Why do you find that so preposterous, yet at the same time you worry that China could be a threat to the US? Maybe you do not see China as a threat to the US, but many Americans do, the same way China sees the US as a threat. While everyone with a reasonable minds realizes the likelihood of a real attack by either side is next to none, it still behooves everyone to have an adequate military to defend themselves.

China is clearly an economic threat to the US, but not a military one.
That's pure propaganda.

Germany was not a military threat to the USA in 1940, either. Your fellows made quite an issue of that fact
in the islamo Nazis propaganda way back then----some
things never change

What has that rubbish got to do with China?

nothing in the view of islamo nazis

 

[Mr. President]

Ask Tibetans

 

[irosie91]

Ask Tibetans

not a whole lot of people give a damn about India
and Indians and Buddhists and the rights of little
minority peoples oppressed. ---remember the
Armenians? -----remember the Biafrans? I am an
old person-------I did my junior high history paper on
the conflict between china and india. It was easy---
there was so much information available-----because
no one else chose that topic. The lesson here is to my
young friends-------when doing a term paper----choose
a topic of NO INTEREST TO ANYONE else in your school.
Thus you will not have to fight for SOURCE MATERIAL

 

[Indofred]

8 pages in and, apart from Tibet, a land that has been occupied for many years, no one has managed to come up with a single valid reason why China is aggressive.

Island and border disputes have been cited, but these assume china is wrong, when it's equally possible the other side of the dispute could be advancing claims at China's cost.
No one has been able to show any valid proof of China's error in these claims.
As for the naval build up, of course they are, there's a large foreign force, along with foreign aided forces on their doorstep.
This military build up has to be considered and equal forces deployed to counter the threat.
In fact, the US of A is behind all the military build up in the area, supplying arms to local powers and reopening military bases, all very close to China.

In fact, there is no military threat from China, only an economic one.

America's corrupt politicians need new evil enemies so US weapons manufacturers can make massive profits, and many are too blind to see what's really happening.

Exclusive Pentagon s chief weapons buyer builds Japan ties as it eyes arms exports Reuters

(Reuters) - The U.S. Defense Department's chief weapons buyer, Frank Kendall, will on Thursday meet officials in Tokyo overseeing Japan's defense contractors, his first visit with industry regulators reviewing the pacifist nation's decades-old ban on overseas arms sales.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

8 pages in and, apart from Tibet, a land that has been occupied for many years, no one has managed to come up with a single valid reason why China is aggressive.

Island and border disputes have been cited, but these assume china is wrong, when it's equally possible the other side of the dispute could be advancing claims at China's cost.
No one has been able to show any valid proof of China's error in these claims.
As for the naval build up, of course they are, there's a large foreign force, along with foreign aided forces on their doorstep.
This military build up has to be considered and equal forces deployed to counter the threat.
In fact, the US of A is behind all the military build up in the area, supplying arms to local powers and reopening military bases, all very close to China.

In fact, there is no military threat from China, only an economic one.

America's corrupt politicians need new evil enemies so US weapons manufacturers can make massive profits, and many are too blind to see what's really happening.

Exclusive Pentagon s chief weapons buyer builds Japan ties as it eyes arms exports Reuters

(Reuters) - The U.S. Defense Department's chief weapons buyer, Frank Kendall, will on Thursday meet officials in Tokyo overseeing Japan's defense contractors, his first visit with industry regulators reviewing the pacifist nation's decades-old ban on overseas arms sales.

In fact, the US of A is behind all the military build up in the area, supplying arms to local powers and reopening military bases, all very close to China.

Of course, China's neigbors know she is a threat, it's logical they turn to us for help.

 

[irosie91]

8 pages in and, apart from Tibet, a land that has been occupied for many years, no one has managed to come up with a single valid reason why China is aggressive.

Island and border disputes have been cited, but these assume china is wrong, when it's equally possible the other side of the dispute could be advancing claims at China's cost.
No one has been able to show any valid proof of China's error in these claims.
As for the naval build up, of course they are, there's a large foreign force, along with foreign aided forces on their doorstep.
This military build up has to be considered and equal forces deployed to counter the threat.
In fact, the US of A is behind all the military build up in the area, supplying arms to local powers and reopening military bases, all very close to China.

In fact, there is no military threat from China, only an economic one.

America's corrupt politicians need new evil enemies so US weapons manufacturers can make massive profits, and many are too blind to see what's really happening.

Exclusive Pentagon s chief weapons buyer builds Japan ties as it eyes arms exports Reuters

(Reuters) - The U.S. Defense Department's chief weapons buyer, Frank Kendall, will on Thursday meet officials in Tokyo overseeing Japan's defense contractors, his first visit with industry regulators reviewing the pacifist nation's decades-old ban on overseas arms sales.

In fact, the US of A is behind all the military build up in the area, supplying arms to local powers and reopening military bases, all very close to China.

Of course, China's neigbors know she is a threat, it's logical they turn to us for help.

I trust the Tibetans I meet in the USA-------they despise the Chinese I trust the words of a very young girl ------who was a doctor in the USA ------I knew her long ago-----she
escaped the filth of the Chinese oppressors------in a little boat-----which was sprayed with gun fire. That little doc probably weighted something like 85 pounds

 

[Indofred]

Yes, we've looked at the sixty year old invasion of Tibet by Mao.
Got anything newer?

 

[Indofred]

In fact, since the very brief Sino- Vietnamese war of 1979, one of only five actions, China has engaged in no military battles at all.
How many other major powers can claim that?

 

[irosie91]

Yes, we've looked at the sixty year old invasion of Tibet by Mao.
Got anything newer?

what does "new" have to do with filth?

 

[Indofred]

Yes, we've looked at the sixty year old invasion of Tibet by Mao.
Got anything newer?

what does "new" have to do with filth?

Well, the best that most are managing to come up with is a sixty year old war, a war that lasted a few days in Vietnam, and a war with India that also lasted a few days. The latter being part of a border dispute where there is nothing to say which country is right.
In fact, China's military actions have been very limited, and far less that many other countries.

It's been 32 years since China was involved in any military action, and all have been very limited, one assisting North Korea as that country's fall would have left areas close to China's border infested with American forces.