Is Biden Haunted by Vietnam? Should He Be?

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Joey Xi's brain is so fried he doesn't remember what he said yesterday much less April of 1975.
Even today we hear from Ret. Adm. Kirby regarding the advancements of the Taliban in Afghanistan.
As it stands today the Taliban will take over Kabul in less than two weeks and they will definitely start their blood bath of those that supported the regime and the U,S.
Surely those stationed at the Embassy are in jeopardy.
We'll soon see and hear the spin and lies this incompetent administration has to spew in the matter.
Meanwhile the CCP Belt and Roads initiative is in progress with the Taliban as we tuck tail...

Awesome. Let the Chinese deal with the problem for a while. They'll have as much success as the British, Russians and American had.
 
This is one area I am not happy with Biden’s performance. Trump would have been just as bad, but I expected better from Biden.

Seriously, what would you have expected him to have done.

It's been an open secret that five minutes after we pull out, the Taliban were going to take over again, because at the end of the day, most Afghans AGREE with the Taliban.

If you put the Taliban on the ballot, they'd win. Easily.

The last four presidents have sunk 2 trillion over 20 years into Afghanistan, not to mention thousands of American lives... and what do we have to show for it? A bunch of people who were never going to be what we wanted, were never going to step up to the plate.

Afghanistan is a great example of the Sunk Cost Fallacy. We've invested all this into the thing, so we need to keep investing in it.


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Seriously, what would you have expected him to have done.

It's been an open secret that five minutes after we pull out, the Taliban were going to take over again, because at the end of the day, most Afghans AGREE with the Taliban.

If you put the Taliban on the ballot, they'd win. Easily.

The last four presidents have sunk 2 trillion over 20 years into Afghanistan, not to mention thousands of American lives... and what do we have to show for it? A bunch of people who were never going to be what we wanted, were never going to step up to the plate.

Afghanistan is a great example of the Sunk Cost Fallacy. We've invested all this into the thing, so we need to keep investing in it.


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How about doing it in stages? Getting our people out?
 
Coyote total bullshit ..stop the stupid shit ....Biden KNEELS for criminals --UNDENIABLE
 
How about doing it in stages? Getting our people out?

We've been in there for 20 years, for four presidents.

Some of the young men being sent over there weren't even born yet when this thing started.

I'm really not sure what sinking more time, treasure or blood into the enterprise is going to do.

Now, it's going to really suck for anyone who supported the current corrupt regime. But it was going to suck for them if it happened last year, this year or next year.
 
Is Biden Haunted by Vietnam? Should He Be?
The president said this withdrawal will be nothing like what happened in 1975,
but there are some striking parallels.
9 Jul 2021 ~~ By Michael Hirsch
When U.S. President Joe Biden was asked at a news conference on Thursday whether there was any comparison between his withdrawal from Afghanistan and the United States’ humiliating retreat from Vietnam a half century ago, his response was unequivocal: “None whatsoever. Zero.”
he president went on to say that in the early 1970s, as the Vietnam War was grinding to a close, North Vietnam’s forces were far more powerful than the Taliban are today. “They’re not remotely comparable in terms of capability,” he said. “There’s going to be no circumstance when you’re going to see people being lifted off the roof of an embassy of the United States from Afghanistan.”
~snip~
Biden is well-steeped in the history of the Vietnam War. As a young senator in 1975, he voted against any aid for the collapsing South Vietnamese government. But in contrast to the swift unraveling of South Vietnam, many experts expect a drawn-out civil war in Afghanistan, one that will likely not be conclusive for at least several years. Even if the Taliban do effectively take over the country, the president is no doubt hoping that by then, the war will have retreated from the headlines and he will have won reelection in 2024.
Still, has Biden been too quick to dismiss the comparison to Vietnam? Despite being better equipped than the Taliban, the demoralized Afghan national forces have given up large tracts of the country in the nearly three months since Biden announced his withdrawal decision. And if the bloodshed in Afghanistan intensifies after the final U.S. withdrawal on Aug. 31—as nearly every observer expects—“Biden’s Vietnam” could easily become a catchphrase ahead of 2024 or even during the 2022 midterms as Republicans look for weak spots in the president’s armor.
~snip~
A transcript of an April 14, 1975, meeting with U.S. President Gerald Ford and other senators in the Oval Office shows Biden, then a 32-year-old freshman senator, was resistant to any continued involvement in Vietnam, and he didn’t even want to approve money that would help get the United States’ former South Vietnamese allies out of the country. “I am not sure I can vote for an amount to put American troops in for one to six months to get the Vietnamese out,” he said. “I will vote for any amount for getting the Americans out. I don’t want it mixed with getting the Vietnamese out.” On April 25, 1975, Biden voted to oppose the Vietnam Contingency Act of 1975, which would have sent emergency relief funds to South Vietnam to be used partly for evacuation. (A month later, however, Biden did vote in favor of a non-binding resolution “expressing the sense of the Senate to welcome to the U.S. the latest refugees from South Vietnam and Cambodia,” and he later supported resettlement in the United States.)

Comment:
Joey Xi's brain is so fried he doesn't remember what he said yesterday much less April of 1975.
Even today we hear from Ret. Adm. Kirby regarding the advancements of the Taliban in Afghanistan.
As it stands today the Taliban will take over Kabul in less than two weeks and they will definitely start their blood bath of those that supported the regime and the U,S.
Surely those stationed at the Embassy are in jeopardy.
We'll soon see and hear the spin and lies this incompetent administration has to spew in the matter.
Meanwhile the CCP Belt and Roads initiative is in progress with the Taliban as we tuck tail...

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The reason the last three presidents didn't do what Biden just did was they didn't want to be known as the guy who 'lost' the war. Biden said screw this mess, blame me if you want but we are outta there...and sure enough here they come, putting the whole 20 year mess on him..
 
The reason the last three presidents didn't do what Biden just did was they didn't want to be known as the guy who 'lost' the war. Biden said screw this mess, blame me if you want but we are outta there...and sure enough here they come, putting the whole 20 year mess on him..
Biden said that his puppet masters the Chinese were paying him to do their bidding and they want the minerals in Afghan. So Biden pulled the troops out after arming the taliban and other terrorists with US weapons leaving our allies over there to be slaughter, tortured, and raped.
 
Is Biden Haunted by Vietnam? Should He Be?
The president said this withdrawal will be nothing like what happened in 1975,
but there are some striking parallels.
9 Jul 2021 ~~ By Michael Hirsch
When U.S. President Joe Biden was asked at a news conference on Thursday whether there was any comparison between his withdrawal from Afghanistan and the United States’ humiliating retreat from Vietnam a half century ago, his response was unequivocal: “None whatsoever. Zero.”
he president went on to say that in the early 1970s, as the Vietnam War was grinding to a close, North Vietnam’s forces were far more powerful than the Taliban are today. “They’re not remotely comparable in terms of capability,” he said. “There’s going to be no circumstance when you’re going to see people being lifted off the roof of an embassy of the United States from Afghanistan.”
~snip~
Biden is well-steeped in the history of the Vietnam War. As a young senator in 1975, he voted against any aid for the collapsing South Vietnamese government. But in contrast to the swift unraveling of South Vietnam, many experts expect a drawn-out civil war in Afghanistan, one that will likely not be conclusive for at least several years. Even if the Taliban do effectively take over the country, the president is no doubt hoping that by then, the war will have retreated from the headlines and he will have won reelection in 2024.
Still, has Biden been too quick to dismiss the comparison to Vietnam? Despite being better equipped than the Taliban, the demoralized Afghan national forces have given up large tracts of the country in the nearly three months since Biden announced his withdrawal decision. And if the bloodshed in Afghanistan intensifies after the final U.S. withdrawal on Aug. 31—as nearly every observer expects—“Biden’s Vietnam” could easily become a catchphrase ahead of 2024 or even during the 2022 midterms as Republicans look for weak spots in the president’s armor.
~snip~
A transcript of an April 14, 1975, meeting with U.S. President Gerald Ford and other senators in the Oval Office shows Biden, then a 32-year-old freshman senator, was resistant to any continued involvement in Vietnam, and he didn’t even want to approve money that would help get the United States’ former South Vietnamese allies out of the country. “I am not sure I can vote for an amount to put American troops in for one to six months to get the Vietnamese out,” he said. “I will vote for any amount for getting the Americans out. I don’t want it mixed with getting the Vietnamese out.” On April 25, 1975, Biden voted to oppose the Vietnam Contingency Act of 1975, which would have sent emergency relief funds to South Vietnam to be used partly for evacuation. (A month later, however, Biden did vote in favor of a non-binding resolution “expressing the sense of the Senate to welcome to the U.S. the latest refugees from South Vietnam and Cambodia,” and he later supported resettlement in the United States.)

Comment:
Joey Xi's brain is so fried he doesn't remember what he said yesterday much less April of 1975.
Even today we hear from Ret. Adm. Kirby regarding the advancements of the Taliban in Afghanistan.
As it stands today the Taliban will take over Kabul in less than two weeks and they will definitely start their blood bath of those that supported the regime and the U,S.
Surely those stationed at the Embassy are in jeopardy.
We'll soon see and hear the spin and lies this incompetent administration has to spew in the matter.
Meanwhile the CCP Belt and Roads initiative is in progress with the Taliban as we tuck tail...

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Of course he has to say that. However, what we should be noticing is that we are STILL in 2021 repeating the Vietnam mistake, over and over. We were in Afghanistan for 20 years. The people are tired of it. Trump was making political hay of this, talking about bringing home troops from Syria, Iraq and Afghanistan. But now for some reason RepubliQans cannot discuss the situation realistically, only use it to bash Biden. Well, that's what they do... partisan hacks to the end.

The issue is that the USA has FAILED since the 1960's to spread any of the democracy and freedom of which JFK used to speak. Instead we've engaged in violent missions with foggy goals, muddled about, betrayed our allies, ignored the intelligent advice we get from our European allies, pursued endless 3rd-world wars of control, er end terrorism, er build democracy, er get oil, er just what the hell ARE we doing? Anyone know?
 
Biden said that his puppet masters the Chinese were paying him to do their bidding and they want the minerals in Afghan. So Biden pulled the troops out after arming the taliban and other terrorists with US weapons leaving our allies over there to be slaughter, tortured, and raped.
Oh sure, that must be it. This RepubliQan nonsense about Biden indebted to China is simply a dodge to counter the reality that Trump is Putin's bitch.
 
Oh sure, that must be it. This RepubliQan nonsense about Biden indebted to China is simply a dodge to counter the reality that Trump is Putin's bitch.
Not a good day for democrats to try diversions from the utter disaster their party very clearly is.
 

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