Iraqis dont care

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    Well if the iraqi people don't care then perhaps these people are criminals and insurgents as would have been perceived when we place them in prisons. I would have thought that by some people's assesments the IRaqi people would be outraged by all of their fellow citizens being placed into concentration camps illegally.
     
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    But the Iraqis aren't potential Kerry voters so their opinion doesn't count:p:
     
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    Well too bad for Kerry. It seems his potential voting pool seems to be dropping every week.
     
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    Wow, what a coincidence, neither do the vast majority of conservatives, they would prefer to use the abuse as a pathetic excuse to fabricate lies about liberals and then attack them for it.


    Funny thing is, I don't see your Fearless War Shrub going around using this as an excuse to whine about non-existant liberal hypocrisies, unlike the bunch of torture supporting wackos I find here, it seems as if Bush is really concerned about it.
     
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    He is. He's geuinely concerned that a few soldiers are ruining the image of the 140,000 other troops in IRaq that have done alot of good. If he wasnt concerned, then I'd be worried.

    And if you fucking paid any attention to reality, you'd see that every conservative condemned these acts. Hell they even passed a resolution that said such. Condemn these acts and praise the other 140,000 troops over there. 49 Democrats couldnt even vote for this. Why? Makes no sense unless they truly beleive that all our soldiers are war criminals.
     
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    I don't see many conservatives here condemning these acts. Conservatives here would prefer to take the torture of Iraq prisoners and turn it into some kind of conservative-liberal argument by fabricating lies about liberal beliefs and then using those fabrications to call liberals out on non-existant hypocrisies. ALL I have heard so far from conservatives here is how bad liberals are, rather than a condemnation of these acts of torture.
     
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    Well if you would have paid attention the very first post on the topic showed everyones outrage for these acts. It wasnt until people called for rumsfield to resign that the argument insued. Thus liberals politiczing another tragedy. Are we simply supposed to sit back and allow people to accuse the president and the SOD of ordering this? I don't think so.
     
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    Lets see, so I'm going to set up a system where we can round people up, classify them as not having any rights, turn the prisons over to military intelligence instead of military police, and then expect abuses not to happen? Right.

    Let's face it, after 9/11, conservatives around this nation began to start thinking about when and why torture would be an acceptable instrument in fighting terror. Don't lie, I wasn't born yesterday, I rememebr what yall's attitude were 2 years ago, and I distinctly remember the question of "when is is acceptable to use torture?" being brought up.

    Well guess what, as Israel as learned, torture is a slippery slope. For them, it started with using "mild physical force" on suspects ONLY in situations where life was imminently threatened - now, they're completely willing to torture the neigbor of a terrorist suspect just to get information.

    When half the country feels torture can at times be justified, its no surprise that there is torture going on in our "detainment" camps.
     
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    People like you scare me. Im really frightened that your running for president, John. Thank god most of America doesnt see it your way.
     

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