Iran Tells Trump: Don't Wait for Us to Pick Up the Phone

[mudwhistle]

Trump tore up the deal and now Iran is no longer obligated to it

And conservatives screamed that Obama was moving them closer to nukes. What ever happened to Trump being such a deal maker?

Weird....you complain about Trump's action when Obama essentially kick-started their nuke program with billions in cash and a 10 year time period to arm themselves without having to worry about sanctions and international inspections.

Know your facts...
The Obama administration actively attacked the Iranian Nuke program:

Inside The United States' Secret Sabotage Of Iran
Stuxnet - Wikipedia
‘Secret US sabotage program’ could be to blame for Iranian satellite launch failures – NY Times


Covert action is meant to stay just that — covert, clandestine, in the shadows.

And in Iran, it did, for quite some time. But in the last year, much has become known about intelligence operations in Iran, says Bruce Riedel, a former CIA official who is now an analyst with the Saban Center at the Brookings Institution.

"There's little doubt that there's a covert war under way against Iran," he says. "There are at least two players in it: the United States and Israel."

And often, it appears, those players work together.

That was especially true with the Stuxnet worm. The computer virus, apparently developed in Israel with the help of the CIA, was launched in 2009. Sometime the following year, the worm found its way into the computers that control Iran's most important nuclear facility, the uranium enrichment operation at Natanz.

The worm told the gas centrifuges that enrich uranium to spin too fast. Many broke and destroyed other centrifuges — nearly a thousand of them.

The impact of the worm spread even wider, says Muhammad Sahimi, a professor at the University of Southern California who writes for the website Tehran Bureau.

"In fact, not only it destroyed a thousand centrifuges at Natanz — it also forced the government to actually shut down the enrichment facility for a few days," Sahimi says.

Oh yeah..and for the 12,321st time..it was Iran's money.

Iran declared war on America. They repeatedly call for Death To America.
The money was the spoils of war.
If you attack us....you shouldn't be rewarded for it.
Obama gave them what they needed....billions in cash.
He's a traitor.

 

[Olde Europe]

Iran believes that Trump is bluffing..now they**gasp*** are saying that since the US has opted out of the deal..they no longer have to honor it. Surprisingly, or not, the US position is that Iran must abide by the agreement that the US is no longer a party to..an odd bit of logic..IMO. Europe is caught in the middle of all this--they are damned if they support Iran..they are damned if they support the US..and they are ignored if they take the middle.

Thanks for bringing this up. It's one of the few things rising about the hysterical hyperventilations over the equivalent of broken fingernails.

Some slight corrections, if I may. The JCPOA was made, by way of a UN Security Council resolution, part of the body of international law. The U.S. didn't "opt out", they stand in violation of international law. The Europeans (the EU) and the other permanent members of the Security Council also violate the spirit, if not the letter, of international law if they don't do what's necessary to deliver.

There is no "middle" between violating the law and following it. So, Europe isn't caught in the middle. They are caught between the demands of international law they themselves negotiated and helped enact on the one hand, and their pathetic irresoluteness and their even more pathetic pursuit of business interests on the other, to the detriment of international law and stability in the Middle East.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump tore up the deal and now Iran is no longer obligated to it

And conservatives screamed that Obama was moving them closer to nukes. What ever happened to Trump being such a deal maker?

Oh please....Iran tore up the deal the moment they were able to stop laughing at Kerry and Obama... You think that their names on a piece of paper actually mean something?
there will be no deal with Iran until its people get hungry enough to overthrow the government. Too bad for the Iranians they don't have a second amendment.

Jo

Let’s see...

Under the Obama deal, Iran disposed of the enriched uranium stockpile and the centerfuges in which to make them

Under Trump, they are rebuilding their stockpiled

Donnie Dealmaker sure knows what he is doing

 

[rightwinger]

Trump tore up the deal and now Iran is no longer obligated to it

And conservatives screamed that Obama was moving them closer to nukes. What ever happened to Trump being such a deal maker?

Weird....you complain about Trump's action when Obama essentially kick-started their nuke program with billions in cash and a 10 year time period to arm themselves without having to worry about sanctions and international inspections.

Know your facts...
The Obama administration actively attacked the Iranian Nuke program:

Inside The United States' Secret Sabotage Of Iran
Stuxnet - Wikipedia
‘Secret US sabotage program’ could be to blame for Iranian satellite launch failures – NY Times


Covert action is meant to stay just that — covert, clandestine, in the shadows.

And in Iran, it did, for quite some time. But in the last year, much has become known about intelligence operations in Iran, says Bruce Riedel, a former CIA official who is now an analyst with the Saban Center at the Brookings Institution.

"There's little doubt that there's a covert war under way against Iran," he says. "There are at least two players in it: the United States and Israel."

And often, it appears, those players work together.

That was especially true with the Stuxnet worm. The computer virus, apparently developed in Israel with the help of the CIA, was launched in 2009. Sometime the following year, the worm found its way into the computers that control Iran's most important nuclear facility, the uranium enrichment operation at Natanz.

The worm told the gas centrifuges that enrich uranium to spin too fast. Many broke and destroyed other centrifuges — nearly a thousand of them.

The impact of the worm spread even wider, says Muhammad Sahimi, a professor at the University of Southern California who writes for the website Tehran Bureau.

"In fact, not only it destroyed a thousand centrifuges at Natanz — it also forced the government to actually shut down the enrichment facility for a few days," Sahimi says.

Oh yeah..and for the 12,321st time..it was Iran's money.

Iran declared war on America. They repeatedly call for Death To America.
The money was the spoils of war.
If you attack us....you shouldn't be rewarded for it.
Obama gave them what they needed....billions in cash.
He's a traitor.

Obama gave the money held back in nuclear sanctions

Trump is allowing them to rebuild their nuclear program

 

[mudwhistle]

Trump tore up the deal and now Iran is no longer obligated to it

And conservatives screamed that Obama was moving them closer to nukes. What ever happened to Trump being such a deal maker?

Weird....you complain about Trump's action when Obama essentially kick-started their nuke program with billions in cash and a 10 year time period to arm themselves without having to worry about sanctions and international inspections.

Know your facts...
The Obama administration actively attacked the Iranian Nuke program:

Inside The United States' Secret Sabotage Of Iran
Stuxnet - Wikipedia
‘Secret US sabotage program’ could be to blame for Iranian satellite launch failures – NY Times


Covert action is meant to stay just that — covert, clandestine, in the shadows.

And in Iran, it did, for quite some time. But in the last year, much has become known about intelligence operations in Iran, says Bruce Riedel, a former CIA official who is now an analyst with the Saban Center at the Brookings Institution.

"There's little doubt that there's a covert war under way against Iran," he says. "There are at least two players in it: the United States and Israel."

And often, it appears, those players work together.

That was especially true with the Stuxnet worm. The computer virus, apparently developed in Israel with the help of the CIA, was launched in 2009. Sometime the following year, the worm found its way into the computers that control Iran's most important nuclear facility, the uranium enrichment operation at Natanz.

The worm told the gas centrifuges that enrich uranium to spin too fast. Many broke and destroyed other centrifuges — nearly a thousand of them.

The impact of the worm spread even wider, says Muhammad Sahimi, a professor at the University of Southern California who writes for the website Tehran Bureau.

"In fact, not only it destroyed a thousand centrifuges at Natanz — it also forced the government to actually shut down the enrichment facility for a few days," Sahimi says.

Oh yeah..and for the 12,321st time..it was Iran's money.

Iran declared war on America. They repeatedly call for Death To America.
The money was the spoils of war.
If you attack us....you shouldn't be rewarded for it.
Obama gave them what they needed....billions in cash.
He's a traitor.

Obama gave the money held back in nuclear sanctions

Trump is allowing them to rebuild their nuclear program

Obama gave them the money they needed to build it....or buy it.
Trump simply reinstated sanctions that Obama and other's lifted.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Iran believes that Trump is bluffing..now they**gasp*** are saying that since the US has opted out of the deal..they no longer have to honor it. Surprisingly, or not, the US position is that Iran must abide by the agreement that the US is no longer a party to..an odd bit of logic..IMO. Europe is caught in the middle of all this--they are damned if they support Iran..they are damned if they support the US..and they are ignored if they take the middle.

The US position is that Iran will be forced back to the table in a way that is advantageous to US interests--Iran says they are not budging.




Iran Tells Trump: Don't Wait for Us to Pick Up the Phone

"...U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo repeated Trump’s offer to chat to try to sort out differences. The U.S. has claimed, with no details, that Iran has been mobilizing proxies in Iraq and Syria to attack its forces, and its new deployments have stirred talk of war.

“The Americans know that no other war will bring about their defeat to such an extent and that’s why there won’t be a war, because war is not part of the U.S. strategy,” Heshmatollah Falahatpishe, the head of Iran’s parliamentary commission for national security and foreign affairs, said in a speech before lawmakers, according to ISNA.


“Nobody is going to call Trump, and eventually the Americans will be forced to raise the issue of negotiations with Iran in a serious way,” he added.

Trump has made confronting Iran the linchpin of his Middle East policy, and his withdrawal from the nuclear deal and reimposition of sanctions meant to choke off Iranian oil exports and access to international banks has pounded the Islamic Republic’s economy. Tehran responded to the U.S. removal of sanctions waivers and the new military deployments by threatening to stop abiding by the nuclear deal’s limitations on uranium enrichment if Europe doesn’t remove obstacles to foreign investment into Iran and ease the flow of Iranian oil within 60 days."

And this means what they won't go nuclear like North Korea?


Dumb fucking libtard

 

[EvilEyeFleegle]

Iran believes that Trump is bluffing..now they**gasp*** are saying that since the US has opted out of the deal..they no longer have to honor it. Surprisingly, or not, the US position is that Iran must abide by the agreement that the US is no longer a party to..an odd bit of logic..IMO. Europe is caught in the middle of all this--they are damned if they support Iran..they are damned if they support the US..and they are ignored if they take the middle.

The US position is that Iran will be forced back to the table in a way that is advantageous to US interests--Iran says they are not budging.




Iran Tells Trump: Don't Wait for Us to Pick Up the Phone

"...U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo repeated Trump’s offer to chat to try to sort out differences. The U.S. has claimed, with no details, that Iran has been mobilizing proxies in Iraq and Syria to attack its forces, and its new deployments have stirred talk of war.

“The Americans know that no other war will bring about their defeat to such an extent and that’s why there won’t be a war, because war is not part of the U.S. strategy,” Heshmatollah Falahatpishe, the head of Iran’s parliamentary commission for national security and foreign affairs, said in a speech before lawmakers, according to ISNA.


“Nobody is going to call Trump, and eventually the Americans will be forced to raise the issue of negotiations with Iran in a serious way,” he added.

Trump has made confronting Iran the linchpin of his Middle East policy, and his withdrawal from the nuclear deal and reimposition of sanctions meant to choke off Iranian oil exports and access to international banks has pounded the Islamic Republic’s economy. Tehran responded to the U.S. removal of sanctions waivers and the new military deployments by threatening to stop abiding by the nuclear deal’s limitations on uranium enrichment if Europe doesn’t remove obstacles to foreign investment into Iran and ease the flow of Iranian oil within 60 days."

And this means what they won't go nuclear like North Korea?


Dumb fucking libtard

Not nearly as dumb as you..as I'm far from a lib..but you are too stupid to recognize reasoned debate..being addicted licking the assholes of the various pundits that give you what you think is information. if you ever had an original thought your head would implode with the shock of it all.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Iran believes that Trump is bluffing..now they**gasp*** are saying that since the US has opted out of the deal..they no longer have to honor it. Surprisingly, or not, the US position is that Iran must abide by the agreement that the US is no longer a party to..an odd bit of logic..IMO. Europe is caught in the middle of all this--they are damned if they support Iran..they are damned if they support the US..and they are ignored if they take the middle.

The US position is that Iran will be forced back to the table in a way that is advantageous to US interests--Iran says they are not budging.




Iran Tells Trump: Don't Wait for Us to Pick Up the Phone

"...U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo repeated Trump’s offer to chat to try to sort out differences. The U.S. has claimed, with no details, that Iran has been mobilizing proxies in Iraq and Syria to attack its forces, and its new deployments have stirred talk of war.

“The Americans know that no other war will bring about their defeat to such an extent and that’s why there won’t be a war, because war is not part of the U.S. strategy,” Heshmatollah Falahatpishe, the head of Iran’s parliamentary commission for national security and foreign affairs, said in a speech before lawmakers, according to ISNA.


“Nobody is going to call Trump, and eventually the Americans will be forced to raise the issue of negotiations with Iran in a serious way,” he added.

Trump has made confronting Iran the linchpin of his Middle East policy, and his withdrawal from the nuclear deal and reimposition of sanctions meant to choke off Iranian oil exports and access to international banks has pounded the Islamic Republic’s economy. Tehran responded to the U.S. removal of sanctions waivers and the new military deployments by threatening to stop abiding by the nuclear deal’s limitations on uranium enrichment if Europe doesn’t remove obstacles to foreign investment into Iran and ease the flow of Iranian oil within 60 days."

And this means what they won't go nuclear like North Korea?


Dumb fucking libtard

Not nearly as dumb as you..as I'm far from a lib..but you are too stupid to recognize reasoned debate..being addicted licking the assholes of the various pundits that give you what you think is information. if you ever had an original thought your head would implode with the shock of it all.

If you knew anything you fucking retarded libtard you would of posted that failed fact of Bill Clintons nuke deal

 

[Olde Europe]

Obama gave the money held back in nuclear sanctions

Heavens.

President Obama gave back money Iran, in 1979, paid for military equipment, which was never delivered, plus accrued interest - $1.7bn in total. Nuclear sanctions had nothing to do with it.

 

[August West]

Trump tore up the deal and now Iran is no longer obligated to it

And conservatives screamed that Obama was moving them closer to nukes. What ever happened to Trump being such a deal maker?

Weird....you complain about Trump's action when Obama essentially kick-started their nuke program with billions in cash and a 10 year time period to arm themselves without having to worry about sanctions and international inspections.

Trump didn't really tear anything up. There was nothing but a fairytale in place.
He simply unmasked it.

Jo

So, the US position is that Iran must abide by the "fairy tale"?

The US position is that only full inspection can confirm compliance.

Jo

A full inspection like Hans Blix`s team did in Iraq? The inspectors found nothing but we blew up the country and our own soldiers anyway.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Crises are starting to pile up, and everyone's worst fear is coming true - the fat orange idiot is at the helm

/—-/ democRATs strategy: Give Iran billions, then bend over and take it up the poop shute in exchange for the illusion of peace. Works every time.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Obama gave the money held back in nuclear sanctions

Heavens.

President Obama gave back money Iran, in 1979, paid for military equipment, which was never delivered, plus accrued interest - $1.7bn in total. Nuclear sanctions had nothing to do with it.

/—-/ You justly giving a rogue terror state money with some lame excuse?

 

[justoffal]

Trump tore up the deal and now Iran is no longer obligated to it

And conservatives screamed that Obama was moving them closer to nukes. What ever happened to Trump being such a deal maker?

Weird....you complain about Trump's action when Obama essentially kick-started their nuke program with billions in cash and a 10 year time period to arm themselves without having to worry about sanctions and international inspections.

Trump didn't really tear anything up. There was nothing but a fairytale in place.
He simply unmasked it.

Jo

So, the US position is that Iran must abide by the "fairy tale"?

The US position is that only full inspection can confirm compliance.

Jo

A full inspection like Hans Blix`s team did in Iraq? The inspectors found nothing but we blew up the country and our own soldiers anyway.

My point is this: let Iran have it's nukes.... They're gonna get them anyway....and also let them starve...screw any deals you cannot make one with them. They will change from the inside when enough people get hungry.
I don't believe we should be in the business of telling countries whether or not they can have nuclear weapons anyway.

Jo

 

[iceberg]

Trump tore up the deal and now Iran is no longer obligated to it

And conservatives screamed that Obama was moving them closer to nukes. What ever happened to Trump being such a deal maker?

Weird....you complain about Trump's action when Obama essentially kick-started their nuke program with billions in cash and a 10 year time period to arm themselves without having to worry about sanctions and international inspections.

Know your facts...
The Obama administration actively attacked the Iranian Nuke program:

Inside The United States' Secret Sabotage Of Iran
Stuxnet - Wikipedia
‘Secret US sabotage program’ could be to blame for Iranian satellite launch failures – NY Times


Covert action is meant to stay just that — covert, clandestine, in the shadows.

And in Iran, it did, for quite some time. But in the last year, much has become known about intelligence operations in Iran, says Bruce Riedel, a former CIA official who is now an analyst with the Saban Center at the Brookings Institution.

"There's little doubt that there's a covert war under way against Iran," he says. "There are at least two players in it: the United States and Israel."

And often, it appears, those players work together.

That was especially true with the Stuxnet worm. The computer virus, apparently developed in Israel with the help of the CIA, was launched in 2009. Sometime the following year, the worm found its way into the computers that control Iran's most important nuclear facility, the uranium enrichment operation at Natanz.

The worm told the gas centrifuges that enrich uranium to spin too fast. Many broke and destroyed other centrifuges — nearly a thousand of them.

The impact of the worm spread even wider, says Muhammad Sahimi, a professor at the University of Southern California who writes for the website Tehran Bureau.

"In fact, not only it destroyed a thousand centrifuges at Natanz — it also forced the government to actually shut down the enrichment facility for a few days," Sahimi says.

Oh yeah..and for the 12,321st time..it was Iran's money.

stuxnet started as early as 2005 under bush and was more american / israeli than anything; likely more israel. i see that got left out.

as for irans money - great. we always deal in the middle of the night in a quiet plane no one knows about giving pallets of foreign currency to another government who just happens to release americans moments later saying there is no correlation. we've had it since 1979 when iran stormed our embassy, killing how many americans again?

far as i'm concerned that money should have been kept as a "FU" and payments made to the families of those killed or hostage for so long. and no president since reagan gave it back. why did he? oh yea - not for hostages either.

 

[rightwinger]

Trump tore up the deal and now Iran is no longer obligated to it

And conservatives screamed that Obama was moving them closer to nukes. What ever happened to Trump being such a deal maker?

Weird....you complain about Trump's action when Obama essentially kick-started their nuke program with billions in cash and a 10 year time period to arm themselves without having to worry about sanctions and international inspections.

Know your facts...
The Obama administration actively attacked the Iranian Nuke program:

Inside The United States' Secret Sabotage Of Iran
Stuxnet - Wikipedia
‘Secret US sabotage program’ could be to blame for Iranian satellite launch failures – NY Times


Covert action is meant to stay just that — covert, clandestine, in the shadows.

And in Iran, it did, for quite some time. But in the last year, much has become known about intelligence operations in Iran, says Bruce Riedel, a former CIA official who is now an analyst with the Saban Center at the Brookings Institution.

"There's little doubt that there's a covert war under way against Iran," he says. "There are at least two players in it: the United States and Israel."

And often, it appears, those players work together.

That was especially true with the Stuxnet worm. The computer virus, apparently developed in Israel with the help of the CIA, was launched in 2009. Sometime the following year, the worm found its way into the computers that control Iran's most important nuclear facility, the uranium enrichment operation at Natanz.

The worm told the gas centrifuges that enrich uranium to spin too fast. Many broke and destroyed other centrifuges — nearly a thousand of them.

The impact of the worm spread even wider, says Muhammad Sahimi, a professor at the University of Southern California who writes for the website Tehran Bureau.

"In fact, not only it destroyed a thousand centrifuges at Natanz — it also forced the government to actually shut down the enrichment facility for a few days," Sahimi says.

Oh yeah..and for the 12,321st time..it was Iran's money.

Iran declared war on America. They repeatedly call for Death To America.
The money was the spoils of war.
If you attack us....you shouldn't be rewarded for it.
Obama gave them what they needed....billions in cash.
He's a traitor.

Obama gave the money held back in nuclear sanctions

Trump is allowing them to rebuild their nuclear program

Obama gave them the money they needed to build it....or buy it.
Trump simply reinstated sanctions that Obama and other's lifted.

Hard to build a bomb without enriched uranium
Cant enrich uranium without centrifuges

Obama made Iran give them up and submit to inspections

Now, with Trump....They are back in business

Some Dealmaker

 

[Jitss617]

Trump is doing what needs to be done

 

[mudwhistle]

Weird....you complain about Trump's action when Obama essentially kick-started their nuke program with billions in cash and a 10 year time period to arm themselves without having to worry about sanctions and international inspections.

Know your facts...
The Obama administration actively attacked the Iranian Nuke program:

Inside The United States' Secret Sabotage Of Iran
Stuxnet - Wikipedia
‘Secret US sabotage program’ could be to blame for Iranian satellite launch failures – NY Times


Covert action is meant to stay just that — covert, clandestine, in the shadows.

And in Iran, it did, for quite some time. But in the last year, much has become known about intelligence operations in Iran, says Bruce Riedel, a former CIA official who is now an analyst with the Saban Center at the Brookings Institution.

"There's little doubt that there's a covert war under way against Iran," he says. "There are at least two players in it: the United States and Israel."

And often, it appears, those players work together.

That was especially true with the Stuxnet worm. The computer virus, apparently developed in Israel with the help of the CIA, was launched in 2009. Sometime the following year, the worm found its way into the computers that control Iran's most important nuclear facility, the uranium enrichment operation at Natanz.

The worm told the gas centrifuges that enrich uranium to spin too fast. Many broke and destroyed other centrifuges — nearly a thousand of them.

The impact of the worm spread even wider, says Muhammad Sahimi, a professor at the University of Southern California who writes for the website Tehran Bureau.

"In fact, not only it destroyed a thousand centrifuges at Natanz — it also forced the government to actually shut down the enrichment facility for a few days," Sahimi says.

Oh yeah..and for the 12,321st time..it was Iran's money.

Iran declared war on America. They repeatedly call for Death To America.
The money was the spoils of war.
If you attack us....you shouldn't be rewarded for it.
Obama gave them what they needed....billions in cash.
He's a traitor.

Obama gave the money held back in nuclear sanctions

Trump is allowing them to rebuild their nuclear program

Obama gave them the money they needed to build it....or buy it.
Trump simply reinstated sanctions that Obama and other's lifted.

Hard to build a bomb without enriched uranium
Cant enrich uranium without centrifuges

Obama made Iran give them up and submit to inspections

Now, with Trump....They are back in business

Some Dealmaker

N. Korea could just sell them some nuke material and delivery systems. They are starving right now.

 

[Claudette]

Trump tore up the deal and now Iran is no longer obligated to it

And conservatives screamed that Obama was moving them closer to nukes. What ever happened to Trump being such a deal maker?

Oh please....Iran tore up the deal the moment they were able to stop laughing at Kerry and Obama... You think that their names on a piece of paper actually mean something?
there will be no deal with Iran until its people get hungry enough to overthrow the government. Too bad for the Iranians they don't have a second amendment.

Jo

Yup. The Iranians laughed all the way to the bank with the billions Barry and Kerry released to them.

Anyone who thinks they would abide by the deal is dumber than a box or rocks.

Good deal for them. Bad deal for the US. Kerry and Barry patted themselves on the back telling each other what a great they made. LMAO

 

[Olde Europe]

far as i'm concerned that money should have been kept as a "FU" and payments made to the families of those killed or hostage for so long. and no president since reagan gave it back. why did he? oh yea - not for hostages either.

Really, guys, read before you bleat, why don't you?

Crucially, the United States halted a delivery of fighter jets that Iran’s pre-revolution government had already paid $400 million for. Normally the US would have returned the money if it wasn’t going to deliver the planes, since countries don’t just break formal agreements like that. But the US government had already frozen Iranian assets in the United States as punishment for the hostage-taking — and that included the $400 million.

The hostage crisis was eventually resolved in 1981, at a conference in Algiers. But the Algiers Accords didn’t resolve every outstanding issue — including the legal status of the $400 million.

Instead, the accord set up an international court, based in the Hague, to deal with any legal claims that the governments of Iran and the United States had against each other, or that individual citizens of either country had against the other country.

This court, called the Iran–United States Claims Tribunal, functioned as a kind of binding arbitration. To deal with cases, the involved parties could either negotiate a settlement out of court or take it to a panel made up of three US-appointed judges, three Iranian-appointed judges, and three neutral judges. The panel would then hear the case and issue a binding ruling.

This process, as you might guess, was very, very slow. By the time Obama’s second term in office began, the tribunal still had not come to a ruling on the issue of the $400 million. Sometime afterward, the Associated Press’s Matt Lee and Bradley Klapper report, the US government apparently concluded that it was going to lose the case — and lose big: Iran was seeking $10 billion in today’s dollars.

"US officials had expected a ruling on the Iranian claim from the tribunal any time, and feared a ruling that would have made the interest payments much higher," Lee and Klapper write.

So the Obama administration decided to settle out of court, opening up negotiations with Iran on the terms of the settlement. It did this at the same time it was negotiating the nuclear deal and the return of four US citizens who had been detained by Iran more recently.

However, the people working on the nuclear deal and the prisoner release were different from the team working on the court case around the weapons money — some of the latter group had been involved with the claims tribunal for years.

By January 2016, the countries had struck a deal — the US would pay Iran $1.7 billion, which amounts to about $300 million in interest on top of the originally frozen assets (accounting for inflation).​

It was Iran's money. A U.S. installed arbitration court was about to rule in favor of Iran. The U.S. wisely, if belatedly, settled out of court, at about 17 cents for the dollar of the expected amount.

But the Fox-deluded geezers still couldn't end their hyperventilation over nothing. Instead, they argue for the U.S. government to act like a common, pride-less thief.

 

[iceberg]

far as i'm concerned that money should have been kept as a "FU" and payments made to the families of those killed or hostage for so long. and no president since reagan gave it back. why did he? oh yea - not for hostages either.

Really, guys, read before you bleat, why don't you?

Crucially, the United States halted a delivery of fighter jets that Iran’s pre-revolution government had already paid $400 million for. Normally the US would have returned the money if it wasn’t going to deliver the planes, since countries don’t just break formal agreements like that. But the US government had already frozen Iranian assets in the United States as punishment for the hostage-taking — and that included the $400 million.

The hostage crisis was eventually resolved in 1981, at a conference in Algiers. But the Algiers Accords didn’t resolve every outstanding issue — including the legal status of the $400 million.

Instead, the accord set up an international court, based in the Hague, to deal with any legal claims that the governments of Iran and the United States had against each other, or that individual citizens of either country had against the other country.

This court, called the Iran–United States Claims Tribunal, functioned as a kind of binding arbitration. To deal with cases, the involved parties could either negotiate a settlement out of court or take it to a panel made up of three US-appointed judges, three Iranian-appointed judges, and three neutral judges. The panel would then hear the case and issue a binding ruling.

This process, as you might guess, was very, very slow. By the time Obama’s second term in office began, the tribunal still had not come to a ruling on the issue of the $400 million. Sometime afterward, the Associated Press’s Matt Lee and Bradley Klapper report, the US government apparently concluded that it was going to lose the case — and lose big: Iran was seeking $10 billion in today’s dollars.

"US officials had expected a ruling on the Iranian claim from the tribunal any time, and feared a ruling that would have made the interest payments much higher," Lee and Klapper write.

So the Obama administration decided to settle out of court, opening up negotiations with Iran on the terms of the settlement. It did this at the same time it was negotiating the nuclear deal and the return of four US citizens who had been detained by Iran more recently.

However, the people working on the nuclear deal and the prisoner release were different from the team working on the court case around the weapons money — some of the latter group had been involved with the claims tribunal for years.

By January 2016, the countries had struck a deal — the US would pay Iran $1.7 billion, which amounts to about $300 million in interest on top of the originally frozen assets (accounting for inflation).​

It was Iran's money. A U.S. installed arbitration court was about to rule in favor of Iran. The U.S. wisely, if belatedly, settled out of court, at about 17 cents for the dollar of the expected amount.

But the Fox-deluded geezers still couldn't end their hyperventilation over nothing. Instead, they argue for the U.S. government to act like a common, pride-less thief.

oh please - if the payments were on the up and up it would not have been in the dead of night on pallets of foreign currency.

it also would NOT have garnered the release of americans.

just stop the selling of the bullshit.