Interstellar

[ChrisL]

What irritates me about this concept of finding another planet that is habital for earthlings to go to is...we fucked up with one so now everyone is supposed to bail it and go fuck up another one with the same o same o?

A bear shits in the woods but doesn't bring it home. This whole planet has been shit on and brought home. Instead of cleaning it up, another one is being sought.

Well... Ultimately, we're going to have to leave this planet one way or another if we want to survive.

Between super volcanoes, asteroids, comets, climate shifts, solar flares, and all the rest, the odds are basically 100% that some kind of catastrophe will eventually hit this planet, and wipe us all out regardless of how well we treat the environment.

It's happened several times before. Just look at the dinosaurs, for instance.

Besides which, the potential resources that can be exploited outside of this planet are basically limitless. If we ever manage to make asteroid mining feasible, for example, it'd probably make the Industrial Revolution look like a mere footnote. lol

Damn . . . I need a planet that has trees and grass and flowers, and all that good stuff. When we talk about inhabiting another planet, all I can think about is a barren desolate wasteland.

Well, to be fair, we probably could make other planets more like Earth with the proper technology.

Terraforming - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Hell! For all we know, there might even be a few planets like Earth out there already. We'd just have to find them.

(And hope no one else was already living there ).

Interesting! That sounds rather difficult and super expensive though.

 

[Sgt_Gath]

You just need to date some nerds, they'll bring you along. Pretty soon you'll even watch Star Wars.

I've seen Star Wars before. Hasn't everyone seen that movie? It was a good movie, but I think some people get a little too excited about it. I don't know of any movie that I have or would have such an obsession over.

Honestly, I'm kind of sick of it.

George Lucas is such a merchandise whore that it's sort of turned me off on the whole thing.

I just can't understand such an obsession with a movie. People who go around dressed like characters from the movie and go to those conventions. It's more than a little odd, IMO.

Yea. I like the original movies (the new ones suck lol ), but I've never been "obsessed" with them.

I only saw one Star Wars movie, and that was the original version. How many movies are there?

Six in total; three made in the late 70s and early 80s, and three made in the late 90s and early 2000s.

The new ones pretty much blow, and ruined George Lucas' reputation in the process. The old ones are good though.

I'd suggest watching at least the first three. The second one is actually the best in the whole series.

Star Wars Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back 1980 - IMDb

 

[Sgt_Gath]

What irritates me about this concept of finding another planet that is habital for earthlings to go to is...we fucked up with one so now everyone is supposed to bail it and go fuck up another one with the same o same o?

A bear shits in the woods but doesn't bring it home. This whole planet has been shit on and brought home. Instead of cleaning it up, another one is being sought.

Well... Ultimately, we're going to have to leave this planet one way or another if we want to survive.

Between super volcanoes, asteroids, comets, climate shifts, solar flares, and all the rest, the odds are basically 100% that some kind of catastrophe will eventually hit this planet, and wipe us all out regardless of how well we treat the environment.

It's happened several times before. Just look at the dinosaurs, for instance.

Besides which, the potential resources that can be exploited outside of this planet are basically limitless. If we ever manage to make asteroid mining feasible, for example, it'd probably make the Industrial Revolution look like a mere footnote. lol

Damn . . . I need a planet that has trees and grass and flowers, and all that good stuff. When we talk about inhabiting another planet, all I can think about is a barren desolate wasteland.

Well, to be fair, we probably could make other planets more like Earth with the proper technology.

Terraforming - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

Hell! For all we know, there might even be a few planets like Earth out there already. We'd just have to find them.

(And hope no one else was already living there ).

Interesting! That sounds rather difficult and super expensive though.

Yea. It's certainly something we won't be doing any time soon.

I can tell you that much for sure.

 

[ChrisL]

I've seen Star Wars before. Hasn't everyone seen that movie? It was a good movie, but I think some people get a little too excited about it. I don't know of any movie that I have or would have such an obsession over.

Honestly, I'm kind of sick of it.

George Lucas is such a merchandise whore that it's sort of turned me off on the whole thing.

I just can't understand such an obsession with a movie. People who go around dressed like characters from the movie and go to those conventions. It's more than a little odd, IMO.

Yea. I like the original movies (the new ones suck lol ), but I've never been "obsessed" with them.

I only saw one Star Wars movie, and that was the original version. How many movies are there?

Six in total; three made in the late 70s and early 80s, and three made in the late 90s and early 2000s.

The new ones pretty much blow, and ruined George Lucas' reputation in the process. The old ones are good though.

I'd suggest watching at least the first three. The second one is actually the best in the whole series.

Star Wars Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back 1980 - IMDb

That's different from the original one? Hmm. I had no idea. Lol. I'm a terrible nerd.

 

[Sgt_Gath]

Honestly, I'm kind of sick of it.

George Lucas is such a merchandise whore that it's sort of turned me off on the whole thing.

I just can't understand such an obsession with a movie. People who go around dressed like characters from the movie and go to those conventions. It's more than a little odd, IMO.

Yea. I like the original movies (the new ones suck lol ), but I've never been "obsessed" with them.

I only saw one Star Wars movie, and that was the original version. How many movies are there?

Six in total; three made in the late 70s and early 80s, and three made in the late 90s and early 2000s.

The new ones pretty much blow, and ruined George Lucas' reputation in the process. The old ones are good though.

I'd suggest watching at least the first three. The second one is actually the best in the whole series.

Star Wars Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back 1980 - IMDb

That's different from the original one? Hmm. I had no idea. Lol. I'm a terrible nerd.

 

[ChrisL]

I just can't understand such an obsession with a movie. People who go around dressed like characters from the movie and go to those conventions. It's more than a little odd, IMO.

Yea. I like the original movies (the new ones suck lol ), but I've never been "obsessed" with them.

I only saw one Star Wars movie, and that was the original version. How many movies are there?

Six in total; three made in the late 70s and early 80s, and three made in the late 90s and early 2000s.

The new ones pretty much blow, and ruined George Lucas' reputation in the process. The old ones are good though.

I'd suggest watching at least the first three. The second one is actually the best in the whole series.

Star Wars Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back 1980 - IMDb

That's different from the original one? Hmm. I had no idea. Lol. I'm a terrible nerd.

Okay, just don't talk like that, or I might have to slap you.

J/K! Have a good night! TTYL, Sgt!

 

[Sgt_Gath]

Yea. I like the original movies (the new ones suck lol ), but I've never been "obsessed" with them.

I only saw one Star Wars movie, and that was the original version. How many movies are there?

Six in total; three made in the late 70s and early 80s, and three made in the late 90s and early 2000s.

The new ones pretty much blow, and ruined George Lucas' reputation in the process. The old ones are good though.

I'd suggest watching at least the first three. The second one is actually the best in the whole series.

Star Wars Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back 1980 - IMDb

That's different from the original one? Hmm. I had no idea. Lol. I'm a terrible nerd.

Okay, just don't talk like that, or I might have to slap you.

J/K! Have a good night! TTYL, Sgt!

TTYL!

 

[Rikurzhen]

What irritates me about this concept of finding another planet that is habital for earthlings to go to is...we fucked up with one so now everyone is supposed to bail it and go fuck up another one with the same o same o?

A bear shits in the woods but doesn't bring it home. This whole planet has been shit on and brought home. Instead of cleaning it up, another one is being sought.

Well... Ultimately, we're going to have to leave this planet one way or another if we want to survive.

Between super volcanoes, asteroids, comets, climate shifts, solar flares, and all the rest, the odds are basically 100% that some kind of catastrophe will eventually hit this planet, and wipe us all out regardless of how well we treat the environment.

It's happened several times before. Just look at the dinosaurs, for instance.

Besides which, the potential resources that can be exploited outside of this planet are basically limitless. If we ever manage to make asteroid mining feasible, for example, it'd probably make the Industrial Revolution look like a mere footnote. lol

Damn . . . I need a planet that has trees and grass and flowers, and all that good stuff. When we talk about inhabiting another planet, all I can think about is a barren desolate wasteland.

Planet? Who needs planets?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

What irritates me about this concept of finding another planet that is habital for earthlings to go to is...we fucked up with one so now everyone is supposed to bail it and go fuck up another one with the same o same o?

A bear shits in the woods but doesn't bring it home. This whole planet has been shit on and brought home. Instead of cleaning it up, another one is being sought.

Well... Ultimately, we're going to have to leave this planet one way or another if we want to survive.

Between super volcanoes, asteroids, comets, climate shifts, solar flares, and all the rest, the odds are basically 100% that some kind of catastrophe will eventually hit this planet, and wipe us all out regardless of how well we treat the environment.

It's happened several times before. Just look at the dinosaurs, for instance.

Besides which, the potential resources that can be exploited outside of this planet are basically limitless. If we ever manage to make asteroid mining feasible, for example, it'd probably make the Industrial Revolution look like a mere footnote. lol

We're actually overdo for a mass extinction. Looking at past ones they fall within a span of time we're far in excess of. By what's come before, we shouldn't be here.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Alrighty then....



Interstellar

This was a good movie, but not quite what I was expecting. It has some elements that really, really work, and a few that kind of... Well, don't.

It seemed to be aiming for something of a "2001: A Space Odyssey" vibe, but from a slightly (and I do mean 'slightly') more "Hard Sci-Fi" perspective, mixed with a healthy dose of Nolan's trademark philosophizing and sentimentality.

Frankly, I think that might have been its biggest failing. It wasn't "Hard Sci-Fi" enough, and so certain elements came off as being a bit goofy and cliche.




- :::SPOILERS::: -



For example, an early plot element involves mysterious aliens only referred to as "they," who interact with the human race through gravitational anomalies. They create a wormhole for humanity to use so they can escape the solar system, and they even lead the hero (a former test pilot) to NASA by messing around with things in his daughter's bedroom in order to send him a message.

While, granted, this is explained and brought full circle in the end (and satisfyingly so at that), it's a bit of an odd choice stylistically. It also makes the first half of the film seem a bit silly and contrived.

Why not keep things relatively simple and just have NASA use an Alcubierre drive instead? They're apparently tinkering with the idea even as we speak.

NASA discusses its warp drive research, prepares to create a warp bubble in the lab

For that matter, why not simply have NASA recruit him the old fashioned way? He apparently worked for them in the past.

I'm also pretty damn sure that black holes DO NOT WORK THAT WAY. However, that's a different can of worms entirely, so I'll avoid details.

- :::SPOILERS::: -




Though... Ultimately, it should be noted that these are only minor complaints. Either way, I guess it is more than worth any silliness involved simply to see a serious, thought provoking science fiction film on the big screen again.

If this film could be shown to have the same impact on the "Hard Sci-Fi" genre that Blade Runner had on film noir, or Gladiator had on historical epics, I'd pretty much "jump for joy." lol

Overall: 7.5 out of 10.

How'd they do the black hole that you didn't like it? Was reading about that the other day and how they did it spawned scientific papers in fact.

 

[Sgt_Gath]

Alrighty then....



Interstellar

This was a good movie, but not quite what I was expecting. It has some elements that really, really work, and a few that kind of... Well, don't.

It seemed to be aiming for something of a "2001: A Space Odyssey" vibe, but from a slightly (and I do mean 'slightly') more "Hard Sci-Fi" perspective, mixed with a healthy dose of Nolan's trademark philosophizing and sentimentality.

Frankly, I think that might have been its biggest failing. It wasn't "Hard Sci-Fi" enough, and so certain elements came off as being a bit goofy and cliche.




- :::SPOILERS::: -



For example, an early plot element involves mysterious aliens only referred to as "they," who interact with the human race through gravitational anomalies. They create a wormhole for humanity to use so they can escape the solar system, and they even lead the hero (a former test pilot) to NASA by messing around with things in his daughter's bedroom in order to send him a message.

While, granted, this is explained and brought full circle in the end (and satisfyingly so at that), it's a bit of an odd choice stylistically. It also makes the first half of the film seem a bit silly and contrived.

Why not keep things relatively simple and just have NASA use an Alcubierre drive instead? They're apparently tinkering with the idea even as we speak.

NASA discusses its warp drive research, prepares to create a warp bubble in the lab

For that matter, why not simply have NASA recruit him the old fashioned way? He apparently worked for them in the past.

I'm also pretty damn sure that black holes DO NOT WORK THAT WAY. However, that's a different can of worms entirely, so I'll avoid details.

- :::SPOILERS::: -




Though... Ultimately, it should be noted that these are only minor complaints. Either way, I guess it is more than worth any silliness involved simply to see a serious, thought provoking science fiction film on the big screen again.

If this film could be shown to have the same impact on the "Hard Sci-Fi" genre that Blade Runner had on film noir, or Gladiator had on historical epics, I'd pretty much "jump for joy." lol

Overall: 7.5 out of 10.

How'd they do the black hole that you didn't like it? Was reading about that the other day and how they did it spawned scientific papers in fact.

- :::SPOILERS::: -


They treated the whole thing a lot more casually than I would have preferred.

They literally "skim the surface" of the black hole's horizon at one point, and suffer no ill impacts for it whatsoever besides time dilation. I'm sorry, but I'm fairly positive that this is simply not how a "black hole" actually works.

They honestly shouldn't have even been able to get anywhere near the thing without getting at least trapped, and probably sucked in. The gravity would simply be too strong for their engines to counter act.

If they somehow had managed to make it that close, they probably would have been torn apart anyway.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Alrighty then....



Interstellar

This was a good movie, but not quite what I was expecting. It has some elements that really, really work, and a few that kind of... Well, don't.

It seemed to be aiming for something of a "2001: A Space Odyssey" vibe, but from a slightly (and I do mean 'slightly') more "Hard Sci-Fi" perspective, mixed with a healthy dose of Nolan's trademark philosophizing and sentimentality.

Frankly, I think that might have been its biggest failing. It wasn't "Hard Sci-Fi" enough, and so certain elements came off as being a bit goofy and cliche.




- :::SPOILERS::: -



For example, an early plot element involves mysterious aliens only referred to as "they," who interact with the human race through gravitational anomalies. They create a wormhole for humanity to use so they can escape the solar system, and they even lead the hero (a former test pilot) to NASA by messing around with things in his daughter's bedroom in order to send him a message.

While, granted, this is explained and brought full circle in the end (and satisfyingly so at that), it's a bit of an odd choice stylistically. It also makes the first half of the film seem a bit silly and contrived.

Why not keep things relatively simple and just have NASA use an Alcubierre drive instead? They're apparently tinkering with the idea even as we speak.

NASA discusses its warp drive research, prepares to create a warp bubble in the lab

For that matter, why not simply have NASA recruit him the old fashioned way? He apparently worked for them in the past.

I'm also pretty damn sure that black holes DO NOT WORK THAT WAY. However, that's a different can of worms entirely, so I'll avoid details.

- :::SPOILERS::: -




Though... Ultimately, it should be noted that these are only minor complaints. Either way, I guess it is more than worth any silliness involved simply to see a serious, thought provoking science fiction film on the big screen again.

If this film could be shown to have the same impact on the "Hard Sci-Fi" genre that Blade Runner had on film noir, or Gladiator had on historical epics, I'd pretty much "jump for joy." lol

Overall: 7.5 out of 10.

How'd they do the black hole that you didn't like it? Was reading about that the other day and how they did it spawned scientific papers in fact.

- :::SPOILERS::: -


They treated the whole thing a lot more casually than I would have preferred.

They literally "skim the surface" of the black hole's horizon at one point, and suffer no ill impacts for it whatsoever besides time dilation. I'm sorry, but I'm fairly positive that this is simply not how a "black hole" actually works.

They honestly shouldn't have even been able to get anywhere near the thing without getting at least trapped, and probably sucked in. The gravity would simply be too strong for their engines to counter act.

If they somehow had managed to make it that close, they probably would have been torn apart anyway.

Didn't you see "Wing Commander?" Point of No Return is where gravity pulls so hard you can't escape. Short of that point you can approach to however close your vehicle can then escape back away from.

 

[Sgt_Gath]

Alrighty then....



Interstellar

This was a good movie, but not quite what I was expecting. It has some elements that really, really work, and a few that kind of... Well, don't.

It seemed to be aiming for something of a "2001: A Space Odyssey" vibe, but from a slightly (and I do mean 'slightly') more "Hard Sci-Fi" perspective, mixed with a healthy dose of Nolan's trademark philosophizing and sentimentality.

Frankly, I think that might have been its biggest failing. It wasn't "Hard Sci-Fi" enough, and so certain elements came off as being a bit goofy and cliche.




- :::SPOILERS::: -



For example, an early plot element involves mysterious aliens only referred to as "they," who interact with the human race through gravitational anomalies. They create a wormhole for humanity to use so they can escape the solar system, and they even lead the hero (a former test pilot) to NASA by messing around with things in his daughter's bedroom in order to send him a message.

While, granted, this is explained and brought full circle in the end (and satisfyingly so at that), it's a bit of an odd choice stylistically. It also makes the first half of the film seem a bit silly and contrived.

Why not keep things relatively simple and just have NASA use an Alcubierre drive instead? They're apparently tinkering with the idea even as we speak.

NASA discusses its warp drive research, prepares to create a warp bubble in the lab

For that matter, why not simply have NASA recruit him the old fashioned way? He apparently worked for them in the past.

I'm also pretty damn sure that black holes DO NOT WORK THAT WAY. However, that's a different can of worms entirely, so I'll avoid details.

- :::SPOILERS::: -




Though... Ultimately, it should be noted that these are only minor complaints. Either way, I guess it is more than worth any silliness involved simply to see a serious, thought provoking science fiction film on the big screen again.

If this film could be shown to have the same impact on the "Hard Sci-Fi" genre that Blade Runner had on film noir, or Gladiator had on historical epics, I'd pretty much "jump for joy." lol

Overall: 7.5 out of 10.

How'd they do the black hole that you didn't like it? Was reading about that the other day and how they did it spawned scientific papers in fact.

- :::SPOILERS::: -


They treated the whole thing a lot more casually than I would have preferred.

They literally "skim the surface" of the black hole's horizon at one point, and suffer no ill impacts for it whatsoever besides time dilation. I'm sorry, but I'm fairly positive that this is simply not how a "black hole" actually works.

They honestly shouldn't have even been able to get anywhere near the thing without getting at least trapped, and probably sucked in. The gravity would simply be too strong for their engines to counter act.

If they somehow had managed to make it that close, they probably would have been torn apart anyway.

Didn't you see "Wing Commander?" Point of No Return is where gravity pulls so hard you can't escape. Short of that point you can approach to however close your vehicle can then escape back away from.

Frankly, Wing Commander probably isn't the best source to be taking cues from on these kinds of things.

I'm not denying that there is a "point of no return." I'm simply saying that, in reality, that point isn't going to be right on top of the thing, like the movie seemed to show. The gravitational influence of the black hole is going affect a rather broad area.

Think about the surface of the sun, for instance. Sure, it's the hottest part of the star we are capable of observing, but that doesn't mean you could fly a space ship right next it without being incinerated. lol

The heat gets worse the closer you get.

 

[2aguy]

The new ones pretty much blow, and ruined George Lucas' reputation in the process. The old ones are good though.

Actually, just stop at the first Star Wars....lucas slowly destroys the original with each one he made....for example....spoiler for those who haven't seen the movie since it's release in the late 70s....(considering it is almost 2015)

The movie starts with Luke having a puppy crush on Leia....by movie 3...we find out he was having those funny feelings...for his own sister.....

Thanks george....nice work.....

 

[2aguy]

And another point about Star Wars....despite lucas's attempt to redefine the Han Solo character...in the Cantina...Han Solo actually shoots Greedo first....but keep in mind...Greedo made it clear he was going to kill Han Solo....so Solo just beat Greedo to the draw...even though Greedo had his weapon out and pointing at Solo...

And yet...Lucas has actually spent lot's of money changing that scene...and trying to change the formational scene of the Solo character....


Yeah...I loved the first Star Wars when I saw it as a kid.......

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Alrighty then....



Interstellar

This was a good movie, but not quite what I was expecting. It has some elements that really, really work, and a few that kind of... Well, don't.

It seemed to be aiming for something of a "2001: A Space Odyssey" vibe, but from a slightly (and I do mean 'slightly') more "Hard Sci-Fi" perspective, mixed with a healthy dose of Nolan's trademark philosophizing and sentimentality.

Frankly, I think that might have been its biggest failing. It wasn't "Hard Sci-Fi" enough, and so certain elements came off as being a bit goofy and cliche.




- :::SPOILERS::: -



For example, an early plot element involves mysterious aliens only referred to as "they," who interact with the human race through gravitational anomalies. They create a wormhole for humanity to use so they can escape the solar system, and they even lead the hero (a former test pilot) to NASA by messing around with things in his daughter's bedroom in order to send him a message.

While, granted, this is explained and brought full circle in the end (and satisfyingly so at that), it's a bit of an odd choice stylistically. It also makes the first half of the film seem a bit silly and contrived.

Why not keep things relatively simple and just have NASA use an Alcubierre drive instead? They're apparently tinkering with the idea even as we speak.

NASA discusses its warp drive research, prepares to create a warp bubble in the lab

For that matter, why not simply have NASA recruit him the old fashioned way? He apparently worked for them in the past.

I'm also pretty damn sure that black holes DO NOT WORK THAT WAY. However, that's a different can of worms entirely, so I'll avoid details.

- :::SPOILERS::: -




Though... Ultimately, it should be noted that these are only minor complaints. Either way, I guess it is more than worth any silliness involved simply to see a serious, thought provoking science fiction film on the big screen again.

If this film could be shown to have the same impact on the "Hard Sci-Fi" genre that Blade Runner had on film noir, or Gladiator had on historical epics, I'd pretty much "jump for joy." lol

Overall: 7.5 out of 10.

How'd they do the black hole that you didn't like it? Was reading about that the other day and how they did it spawned scientific papers in fact.

- :::SPOILERS::: -


They treated the whole thing a lot more casually than I would have preferred.

They literally "skim the surface" of the black hole's horizon at one point, and suffer no ill impacts for it whatsoever besides time dilation. I'm sorry, but I'm fairly positive that this is simply not how a "black hole" actually works.

They honestly shouldn't have even been able to get anywhere near the thing without getting at least trapped, and probably sucked in. The gravity would simply be too strong for their engines to counter act.

If they somehow had managed to make it that close, they probably would have been torn apart anyway.

Didn't you see "Wing Commander?" Point of No Return is where gravity pulls so hard you can't escape. Short of that point you can approach to however close your vehicle can then escape back away from.

Frankly, Wing Commander probably isn't the best source to be taking cues from on these kinds of things.

I'm not denying that there is a "point of no return." I'm simply saying that, in reality, that point isn't going to be right on top of the thing, like the movie seemed to show. The gravitational influence of the black hole is going affect a rather broad area.

Think about the surface of the sun, for instance. Sure, it's the hottest part of the star we are capable of observing, but that doesn't mean you could fly a space ship right next it without being incinerated. lol

The heat gets worse the closer you get.

One of the docs on Science Channel about black holes mentioned something amazing, the pull of gravity from black holes is so much that the effect of their pull is never zero no matter how far you are from them. Amount might be minute light years away but still not zero.

 

[Mr. H.]

Saw this today, and I think it totally kicks ass.
Best sci-fi flick I've seen in a very long time.
Very impressed. Highly recommend.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Time magazine had an excellent article on it. We will see it on Tuesday.

I like the idea of space as the unknown and as a cathedral for the spirit in which we are grasping at who we are and what we should do and be.

Mankind will have to leave this home eventually if we wish to survive.

The history of man is exploration, using up the resources, and moving on.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Yeah, the greater the gravity the bend in light slows down. Time slows down. Wow!

 

[Mr. H.]

I don't pick apart the science in these types of movies. It is science "fiction" after all. But they made it "appear" credible- at least to the characters. This was a no-nonsense movie, unlike that ridiculous Gravity flick. And my favorite part... no sound in space, folks. Got that, Lucas?