Internet and the Rise of Incivility and Hate Crimes

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Anti-Trump protests, some violent, erupt for 3rd night nationwide
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Nov 11, 2016 - Anti-Trump protests, some violent, erupt for 3rd night nationwide ... ordered protesters to disperse after the demonstration turned into what they ...
Protests against Donald Trump - Wikipedia
Protests against Donald Trump - Wikipedia
Protests against Donald Trump, or anti-Trump protests, have occurred both in the United States ... At times, anti-Trump protesters have turned violent and attacked Trump supporters and vice versa; thisviolence has received bipartisan ...
Violence erupts as hundreds of Donald Trump supporters clash with ...
Violence erupts as hundreds of Donald Trump supporters clash with rivals at US rallies
11 hours ago - An elderly Trump supporter yells at an anti-Trump protester at a dual ... and counter-protesters clashed during a rally that turned violent and left ...
Pro-Trump rallies turn violent when anti-Trump protesters arrive
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14 hours ago - Some of the rallies turned into violent clashes when groups of anti-Trump protesters gathered nearby. Dozens were injured and some 15 ...
Mostly by Bernie's Bolsheviks.
ALL of it by leftists who do not believe people have the right to free speech or thought.

You believe as they do, or you burn. It isn't just Trump rallies either. People are being attacked on University Campuses for having differing opinions from the left.

This is NOT a symptom of the Internet, but a symptom of close minded hatred and a "I want it my way all the time" mentality we have raised our children with.

It has very little to do with conseratives or the Internet.
 
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It is no more correct to blame the left for anarchists among the crowd, than to blame conservatives for white supremacists. What the left seems to be doing is calling others haters, clearly attacking others with hate and violence.
Being a leftie, I need to inform you that the folks on the right are doing the same. If you take away the anarchists and the supremacists/nationalists, which is as it should be, there is no more hate and violence on the left than on the right. Lots of silliness, still, but I think it's really about equal.


The targets are different, but the sentiments are the same. In the meantime each side will now take to the streets in order to "prove" the other is worse.

IMO - the problem isn't the rhetoric, it's been with us for ages - it's the normalizing of it in society. Legitimizing it, justifying it, excusing it. I don't agree with laws against it - it needs to be in the open in order to be confronted, but these people are feeling emboldened by the lack of condemnation around them and in some cases, silence or tacit approval by polticial figures rather than marginalizing.
 
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Political correctness was the pendulum of culture swinging to far to the left. But now, we're seeing the opposite. The anti-political correctness crowd, culminating in Trump's electoral victory is encouraging a far more open and socially accepted form of hate. Where it used to be socially condemned, it's now applauded, as free speech and part of the mainstream, set against the backdrop of rabid anti-immigrant and anti-other fears.

How The Internet Fueled The Rise In Hate Crimes In California | Fast Company | The Future Of Business

Messages about the “otherness” of immigrants have gained an expansive audience. “Bigots have become especially nuanced and skillful at hanging onto the coattails of important public policy debates that are going on in the mainstream,” Levin says. “There’s an online cottage industry that attaches bigotry to real policy issues from national security to free speech on campus to the economy.”

“Some groups continue to promote overt racism and bigotry,” Levin continues, “but some are changing their branding, or toning down the swastikas. And their arguments are no longer that Latinos and immigrants are genetically inferior. It’s that they’re culturally or religiously inapposite to American ideals. Or sometimes the message is shrouded in the idea that we’re under attack from terrorists.”

Scrubbed of the eugenics ideology or race war rhetoric that may have helped spawn them, and freed from the stigma that comes from being the clear intellectual property of Nazi skinheads or the Ku Klux Klan, many of these messages about the otherness of immigrants have gained an expansive audience among Americans who might not embrace them in their raw form. While these views haven’t been given much credence on NBC’s Meet the Press or in the op-ed pages of the Washington Post, they’re regularly part of the conversation on Fox News, and they constitute the bread and butter of breitbart.com—which now enjoys a monthly readership greater than the entire populations of Great Britain, Germany, or France.
The rise is incivility and hate crimes is coming from the left. Its either democrats anti protesters attacking republicans, or its minorities attacking, kidnapping, car jacking, torturing white people. Eitehr way, its 95% coming from one political party.

If you can't see that it comes from both sides then you are likely part of the problem.
 
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Pro-Trump rally in Berkeley turns violent as protesters clash with the ...
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1 hour ago - Supporters of the president and anti-Trump protesters clashed violently Saturday in Berkeley, Calif., on a day that numerous pro-Trump rallies ...
In day of pro-Trump rallies, California march turns violent | Reuters
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-supporters-idUSKBN16B0O8
3 hours ago - Supporters of Donald Trump clashed with counter-protesters at a rally in ... smaller turn-outs than the huge crowds of anti-Trump protesters that ...
'March 4 Trump' rallies turn violent as protesters clash with supporters
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52 mins ago - Anti-Trump protesters try to take a large piece of wood away from a Trump supporter at a rally for President Donald Trump at Martin Luther King ...
Anti-Trump protests turn violent, 2 cops hospitalized, more than 200 ...
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Jan 20, 2017 - Protesters and law enforcement clashed on Inauguration Day Friday shortly after DonaldTrump was sworn in as the 45th president of the ...
Ten arrested after pro-Trump rally turns violent in California
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19 hours ago - Ten arrested after pro-Trump rally turns violent in California ... smaller turn-outs than the huge crowds of anti-Trump protesters that clogged the ...
Anti-Trump protests, some violent, erupt for 3rd night nationwide
www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/.../anti-trump-protesters.../93633154/
Nov 11, 2016 - Anti-Trump protests, some violent, erupt for 3rd night nationwide ... ordered protesters to disperse after the demonstration turned into what they ...
Protests against Donald Trump - Wikipedia
Protests against Donald Trump - Wikipedia
Protests against Donald Trump, or anti-Trump protests, have occurred both in the United States ... At times, anti-Trump protesters have turned violent and attacked Trump supporters and vice versa; thisviolence has received bipartisan ...
Violence erupts as hundreds of Donald Trump supporters clash with ...
Violence erupts as hundreds of Donald Trump supporters clash with rivals at US rallies
11 hours ago - An elderly Trump supporter yells at an anti-Trump protester at a dual ... and counter-protesters clashed during a rally that turned violent and left ...
Pro-Trump rallies turn violent when anti-Trump protesters arrive
www.jerusalemonline.com/news/world.../violent-clashes-at-pro-trump-rallies-27029
14 hours ago - Some of the rallies turned into violent clashes when groups of anti-Trump protesters gathered nearby. Dozens were injured and some 15 ...
Mostly by Bernie's Bolsheviks.
ALL of it by leftists who do not believe people have the right to free speech or thought.

You believe as they do, or you burn. It isn't just Trump rallies either. People are being attacked on University Campuses for having differing opinions from the left.

This is NOT a symptom of the Internet, but a symptom of close minded hatred and a "I want it my way all the time" mentality we have raised our children with.


It has very little to do with conseratives or the Internet.

I disagree....I think the internet, and by extension chat mediums, twitter etc has a lot to do with it. When people aren't face to face, a lot of social barriers break down - not seeing people's reaction removes an important check and balance to social interactions. It's easier to be mean, cruel, to not see the other as a person. I think that is slowly changing the way we interact.
 
Political correctness was the pendulum of culture swinging to far to the left. But now, we're seeing the opposite. The anti-political correctness crowd, culminating in Trump's electoral victory is encouraging a far more open and socially accepted form of hate. Where it used to be socially condemned, it's now applauded, as free speech and part of the mainstream, set against the backdrop of rabid anti-immigrant and anti-other fears.

How The Internet Fueled The Rise In Hate Crimes In California | Fast Company | The Future Of Business

Messages about the “otherness” of immigrants have gained an expansive audience. “Bigots have become especially nuanced and skillful at hanging onto the coattails of important public policy debates that are going on in the mainstream,” Levin says. “There’s an online cottage industry that attaches bigotry to real policy issues from national security to free speech on campus to the economy.”

“Some groups continue to promote overt racism and bigotry,” Levin continues, “but some are changing their branding, or toning down the swastikas. And their arguments are no longer that Latinos and immigrants are genetically inferior. It’s that they’re culturally or religiously inapposite to American ideals. Or sometimes the message is shrouded in the idea that we’re under attack from terrorists.”

Scrubbed of the eugenics ideology or race war rhetoric that may have helped spawn them, and freed from the stigma that comes from being the clear intellectual property of Nazi skinheads or the Ku Klux Klan, many of these messages about the otherness of immigrants have gained an expansive audience among Americans who might not embrace them in their raw form. While these views haven’t been given much credence on NBC’s Meet the Press or in the op-ed pages of the Washington Post, they’re regularly part of the conversation on Fox News, and they constitute the bread and butter of breitbart.com—which now enjoys a monthly readership greater than the entire populations of Great Britain, Germany, or France.
The rise is incivility and hate crimes is coming from the left. Its either democrats anti protesters attacking republicans, or its minorities attacking, kidnapping, car jacking, torturing white people. Eitehr way, its 95% coming from one political party.

If you can't see that it comes from both sides then you are likely part of the problem.
I clearely stated that it does come from both sides. You just dont want to admit that the majority comes from YOUR side.
 
I think it is people as a whole. I don't think it is left or right, but the person. One chooses to hate, or not to hate. No political ideology forces anyone one way or another.
This is all where personal responsibility comes into play.
You're forgetting about class warfare though, dear Kat .

Republicans hate paying taxes even if they are rich. They want the shrinking middle class and working poor to pay it.


No, they do not. That is your opinion based upon your desire to demonize those you disagree with. You cannot find a single Republican or Conservative making that kind of statement.

Democrats envy the Republicans and want them (the latter) to pay more tax like they used to pre-Reagan.

Democrats need ACA.

Republicans hate having had ACA shoved down their throats by BHO like they did when Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi ran Congress.

Yet whenever the Republicans are in office, it is the Democrats who claim that the Republicans are shoving their morals down everyone's throat.

Democrats want abortion on demand right up to birth.

Republicans are anti abortion -- they call it murder.

60% of Republicans own guns -- half of which are assault carbines.

Outright dishonest statement. Show the rest of us what constitutes an 'assault carbine'.

Only 25% of Democrats own guns -- and they tend to shy away from assault carbines.

Republicans hate same sex marriage even though the SCOTUS ruled in favor of it (thanks to Kennedy).
A half-truth. Some Republicans hate same-sex marriage. The Conservative Republicans don't think government should be in anyone's bedroom. It is part of that whole, "small government" mentality we have.
Republicans hate ACA even though the SCOTUS ruled in favor of it (including Roberts).

Lots of divisiveness -- enough to go around.
Republicans don't believe the government should be in charge of a person healthcare. That is not hating.
 
Pro-Trump rally in Berkeley turns violent as protesters clash with the ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../pro-trump-rally-in-berkeley-turns-violent-as-protest...
1 hour ago - Supporters of the president and anti-Trump protesters clashed violently Saturday in Berkeley, Calif., on a day that numerous pro-Trump rallies ...
In day of pro-Trump rallies, California march turns violent | Reuters
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-supporters-idUSKBN16B0O8
3 hours ago - Supporters of Donald Trump clashed with counter-protesters at a rally in ... smaller turn-outs than the huge crowds of anti-Trump protesters that ...
'March 4 Trump' rallies turn violent as protesters clash with supporters
www.smh.com.au › World
52 mins ago - Anti-Trump protesters try to take a large piece of wood away from a Trump supporter at a rally for President Donald Trump at Martin Luther King ...
Anti-Trump protests turn violent, 2 cops hospitalized, more than 200 ...
News, Sports, Weather, Entertainment, Local & Lifestyle - AOL
Jan 20, 2017 - Protesters and law enforcement clashed on Inauguration Day Friday shortly after DonaldTrump was sworn in as the 45th president of the ...
Ten arrested after pro-Trump rally turns violent in California
www.telegraph.co.uk › News
19 hours ago - Ten arrested after pro-Trump rally turns violent in California ... smaller turn-outs than the huge crowds of anti-Trump protesters that clogged the ...
Anti-Trump protests, some violent, erupt for 3rd night nationwide
www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/.../anti-trump-protesters.../93633154/
Nov 11, 2016 - Anti-Trump protests, some violent, erupt for 3rd night nationwide ... ordered protesters to disperse after the demonstration turned into what they ...
Protests against Donald Trump - Wikipedia
Protests against Donald Trump - Wikipedia
Protests against Donald Trump, or anti-Trump protests, have occurred both in the United States ... At times, anti-Trump protesters have turned violent and attacked Trump supporters and vice versa; thisviolence has received bipartisan ...
Violence erupts as hundreds of Donald Trump supporters clash with ...
Violence erupts as hundreds of Donald Trump supporters clash with rivals at US rallies
11 hours ago - An elderly Trump supporter yells at an anti-Trump protester at a dual ... and counter-protesters clashed during a rally that turned violent and left ...
Pro-Trump rallies turn violent when anti-Trump protesters arrive
www.jerusalemonline.com/news/world.../violent-clashes-at-pro-trump-rallies-27029
14 hours ago - Some of the rallies turned into violent clashes when groups of anti-Trump protesters gathered nearby. Dozens were injured and some 15 ...
Mostly by Bernie's Bolsheviks.
ALL of it by leftists who do not believe people have the right to free speech or thought.

You believe as they do, or you burn. It isn't just Trump rallies either. People are being attacked on University Campuses for having differing opinions from the left.

This is NOT a symptom of the Internet, but a symptom of close minded hatred and a "I want it my way all the time" mentality we have raised our children with.


It has very little to do with conseratives or the Internet.

I disagree....I think the internet, and by extension chat mediums, twitter etc has a lot to do with it. When people aren't face to face, a lot of social barriers break down - not seeing people's reaction removes an important check and balance to social interactions. It's easier to be mean, cruel, to not see the other as a person. I think that is slowly changing the way we interact.
People are face-to-face in these protests and the violence found on our University campuses. The left have been taught to hate anything and anyone not in lock-step with their world-view.
 
I think it is people as a whole. I don't think it is left or right, but the person. One chooses to hate, or not to hate. No political ideology forces anyone one way or another.
This is all where personal responsibility comes into play.
You're forgetting about class warfare though, dear Kat .

Republicans hate paying taxes even if they are rich. They want the shrinking middle class and working poor to pay it.

Democrats envy the Republicans and want them (the latter) to pay more tax like they used to pre-Reagan.

Democrats need ACA.

Republicans hate having had ACA shoved down their throats by BHO like they did when Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi ran Congress.

Democrats want abortion on demand right up to birth.

Republicans are anti abortion -- they call it murder.

60% of Republicans own guns -- half of which are assault carbines.

Only 25% of Democrats own guns -- and they tend to shy away from assault carbines.

Republicans hate same sex marriage even though the SCOTUS ruled in favor of it (thanks to Kennedy).

Republicans hate ACA even though the SCOTUS ruled in favor of it (including Roberts).

Lots of divisiveness -- enough to go around.


Yes, I agree there is enough divisiveness to go around, but, we as individuals still choose how we will deal with things. Many disagree with me, but I don't hate them. Maybe some hate me (that's their problem), but I also as a whole can get along with most anyone. KWIM?
I guess that is why I always try and make it clear that I am not a R or a D, but an individual. I make the choice not to hate, or to hate. We all do.
 
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Pro-Trump rally in Berkeley turns violent as protesters clash with the ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../pro-trump-rally-in-berkeley-turns-violent-as-protest...
1 hour ago - Supporters of the president and anti-Trump protesters clashed violently Saturday in Berkeley, Calif., on a day that numerous pro-Trump rallies ...
In day of pro-Trump rallies, California march turns violent | Reuters
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-supporters-idUSKBN16B0O8
3 hours ago - Supporters of Donald Trump clashed with counter-protesters at a rally in ... smaller turn-outs than the huge crowds of anti-Trump protesters that ...
'March 4 Trump' rallies turn violent as protesters clash with supporters
www.smh.com.au › World
52 mins ago - Anti-Trump protesters try to take a large piece of wood away from a Trump supporter at a rally for President Donald Trump at Martin Luther King ...
Anti-Trump protests turn violent, 2 cops hospitalized, more than 200 ...
News, Sports, Weather, Entertainment, Local & Lifestyle - AOL
Jan 20, 2017 - Protesters and law enforcement clashed on Inauguration Day Friday shortly after DonaldTrump was sworn in as the 45th president of the ...
Ten arrested after pro-Trump rally turns violent in California
www.telegraph.co.uk › News
19 hours ago - Ten arrested after pro-Trump rally turns violent in California ... smaller turn-outs than the huge crowds of anti-Trump protesters that clogged the ...
Anti-Trump protests, some violent, erupt for 3rd night nationwide
www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/.../anti-trump-protesters.../93633154/
Nov 11, 2016 - Anti-Trump protests, some violent, erupt for 3rd night nationwide ... ordered protesters to disperse after the demonstration turned into what they ...
Protests against Donald Trump - Wikipedia
Protests against Donald Trump - Wikipedia
Protests against Donald Trump, or anti-Trump protests, have occurred both in the United States ... At times, anti-Trump protesters have turned violent and attacked Trump supporters and vice versa; thisviolence has received bipartisan ...
Violence erupts as hundreds of Donald Trump supporters clash with ...
Violence erupts as hundreds of Donald Trump supporters clash with rivals at US rallies
11 hours ago - An elderly Trump supporter yells at an anti-Trump protester at a dual ... and counter-protesters clashed during a rally that turned violent and left ...
Pro-Trump rallies turn violent when anti-Trump protesters arrive
www.jerusalemonline.com/news/world.../violent-clashes-at-pro-trump-rallies-27029
14 hours ago - Some of the rallies turned into violent clashes when groups of anti-Trump protesters gathered nearby. Dozens were injured and some 15 ...
Mostly by Bernie's Bolsheviks.
ALL of it by leftists who do not believe people have the right to free speech or thought.

You believe as they do, or you burn. It isn't just Trump rallies either. People are being attacked on University Campuses for having differing opinions from the left.

This is NOT a symptom of the Internet, but a symptom of close minded hatred and a "I want it my way all the time" mentality we have raised our children with.


It has very little to do with conseratives or the Internet.

I disagree....I think the internet, and by extension chat mediums, twitter etc has a lot to do with it. When people aren't face to face, a lot of social barriers break down - not seeing people's reaction removes an important check and balance to social interactions. It's easier to be mean, cruel, to not see the other as a person. I think that is slowly changing the way we interact.
People are face-to-face in these protests and the violence found on our University campuses. The left have been taught to hate anything and anyone not in lock-step with their world-view.

Protests are age old and, quite frankly - engaged in by both the left and the right. You seem intent on laying all the blame on just one ideology.
 
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I think it is people as a whole. I don't think it is left or right, but the person. One chooses to hate, or not to hate. No political ideology forces anyone one way or another.
This is all where personal responsibility comes into play.
You're forgetting about class warfare though, dear Kat .

Republicans hate paying taxes even if they are rich. They want the shrinking middle class and working poor to pay it.

No, they do not. That is your opinion based upon your desire to demonize those you disagree with. You cannot find a single Republican or Conservative making that kind of statement.

Democrats envy the Republicans and want them (the latter) to pay more tax like they used to pre-Reagan.

Democrats need ACA.

Republicans hate having had ACA shoved down their throats by BHO like they did when Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi ran Congress.

Yet whenever the Republicans are in office, it is the Democrats who claim that the Republicans are shoving their morals down everyone's throat.

Democrats want abortion on demand right up to birth.

Republicans are anti abortion -- they call it murder.

60% of Republicans own guns -- half of which are assault carbines.

Outright dishonest statement. Show the rest of us what constitutes an 'assault carbine'.

Only 25% of Democrats own guns -- and they tend to shy away from assault carbines.

Republicans hate same sex marriage even though the SCOTUS ruled in favor of it (thanks to Kennedy).
A half-truth. Some Republicans hate same-sex marriage. The Conservative Republicans don't think government should be in anyone's bedroom. It is part of that whole, "small government" mentality we have.
Republicans hate ACA even though the SCOTUS ruled in favor of it (including Roberts).

Lots of divisiveness -- enough to go around.
Republicans don't believe the government should be in charge of a person healthcare. That is not hating.


Haven't YOU been demonizing the left here?
 
I disagree....I think the internet, and by extension chat mediums, twitter etc has a lot to do with it. When people aren't face to face, a lot of social barriers break down - not seeing people's reaction removes an important check and balance to social interactions. It's easier to be mean, cruel, to not see the other as a person. I think that is slowly changing the way we interact.


I totally agree that social media now plays a big part in it.
 
Pro-Trump rally in Berkeley turns violent as protesters clash with the ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../pro-trump-rally-in-berkeley-turns-violent-as-protest...
1 hour ago - Supporters of the president and anti-Trump protesters clashed violently Saturday in Berkeley, Calif., on a day that numerous pro-Trump rallies ...
In day of pro-Trump rallies, California march turns violent | Reuters
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-supporters-idUSKBN16B0O8
3 hours ago - Supporters of Donald Trump clashed with counter-protesters at a rally in ... smaller turn-outs than the huge crowds of anti-Trump protesters that ...
'March 4 Trump' rallies turn violent as protesters clash with supporters
www.smh.com.au › World
52 mins ago - Anti-Trump protesters try to take a large piece of wood away from a Trump supporter at a rally for President Donald Trump at Martin Luther King ...
Anti-Trump protests turn violent, 2 cops hospitalized, more than 200 ...
News, Sports, Weather, Entertainment, Local & Lifestyle - AOL
Jan 20, 2017 - Protesters and law enforcement clashed on Inauguration Day Friday shortly after DonaldTrump was sworn in as the 45th president of the ...
Ten arrested after pro-Trump rally turns violent in California
www.telegraph.co.uk › News
19 hours ago - Ten arrested after pro-Trump rally turns violent in California ... smaller turn-outs than the huge crowds of anti-Trump protesters that clogged the ...
Anti-Trump protests, some violent, erupt for 3rd night nationwide
www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/.../anti-trump-protesters.../93633154/
Nov 11, 2016 - Anti-Trump protests, some violent, erupt for 3rd night nationwide ... ordered protesters to disperse after the demonstration turned into what they ...
Protests against Donald Trump - Wikipedia
Protests against Donald Trump - Wikipedia
Protests against Donald Trump, or anti-Trump protests, have occurred both in the United States ... At times, anti-Trump protesters have turned violent and attacked Trump supporters and vice versa; thisviolence has received bipartisan ...
Violence erupts as hundreds of Donald Trump supporters clash with ...
Violence erupts as hundreds of Donald Trump supporters clash with rivals at US rallies
11 hours ago - An elderly Trump supporter yells at an anti-Trump protester at a dual ... and counter-protesters clashed during a rally that turned violent and left ...
Pro-Trump rallies turn violent when anti-Trump protesters arrive
www.jerusalemonline.com/news/world.../violent-clashes-at-pro-trump-rallies-27029
14 hours ago - Some of the rallies turned into violent clashes when groups of anti-Trump protesters gathered nearby. Dozens were injured and some 15 ...
Mostly by Bernie's Bolsheviks.
ALL of it by leftists who do not believe people have the right to free speech or thought.

You believe as they do, or you burn. It isn't just Trump rallies either. People are being attacked on University Campuses for having differing opinions from the left.

This is NOT a symptom of the Internet, but a symptom of close minded hatred and a "I want it my way all the time" mentality we have raised our children with.


It has very little to do with conseratives or the Internet.

I disagree....I think the internet, and by extension chat mediums, twitter etc has a lot to do with it. When people aren't face to face, a lot of social barriers break down - not seeing people's reaction removes an important check and balance to social interactions. It's easier to be mean, cruel, to not see the other as a person. I think that is slowly changing the way we interact.
People are face-to-face in these protests and the violence found on our University campuses. The left have been taught to hate anything and anyone not in lock-step with their world-view.

Protests are age old and, quite frankly - engaged in by both the left and the right. You seem intent on laying all the blame on just one ideology.
Protests are one thing. What is happening is not protests, but violent repression of opossing ideology.
 
It is no more correct to blame the left for anarchists among the crowd, than to blame conservatives for white supremacists. What the left seems to be doing is calling others haters, clearly attacking others with hate and violence.

I think we all - left and right - have a responsibility to tackle this, not normalize it. It's not a "partisan" issue. It's a cultural trend that is disturbing imo.

Politics is only concerned with political agenda and survival. It is actually a citizens versus government battle. That was the basic premise behind a Trump vote.

Yes, it is disturbing.
 
There is a big difference between disagreeing and the actual hating we are seeing now. Of course we are going to disagree, and I think that is healthy. The other? No way.

I take it all back. I do hate. I hate the hate going on. :lol:
 
Pro-Trump rally in Berkeley turns violent as protesters clash with the ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../pro-trump-rally-in-berkeley-turns-violent-as-protest...
1 hour ago - Supporters of the president and anti-Trump protesters clashed violently Saturday in Berkeley, Calif., on a day that numerous pro-Trump rallies ...
In day of pro-Trump rallies, California march turns violent | Reuters
www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-supporters-idUSKBN16B0O8
3 hours ago - Supporters of Donald Trump clashed with counter-protesters at a rally in ... smaller turn-outs than the huge crowds of anti-Trump protesters that ...
'March 4 Trump' rallies turn violent as protesters clash with supporters
www.smh.com.au › World
52 mins ago - Anti-Trump protesters try to take a large piece of wood away from a Trump supporter at a rally for President Donald Trump at Martin Luther King ...
Anti-Trump protests turn violent, 2 cops hospitalized, more than 200 ...
News, Sports, Weather, Entertainment, Local & Lifestyle - AOL
Jan 20, 2017 - Protesters and law enforcement clashed on Inauguration Day Friday shortly after DonaldTrump was sworn in as the 45th president of the ...
Ten arrested after pro-Trump rally turns violent in California
www.telegraph.co.uk › News
19 hours ago - Ten arrested after pro-Trump rally turns violent in California ... smaller turn-outs than the huge crowds of anti-Trump protesters that clogged the ...
Anti-Trump protests, some violent, erupt for 3rd night nationwide
www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/.../anti-trump-protesters.../93633154/
Nov 11, 2016 - Anti-Trump protests, some violent, erupt for 3rd night nationwide ... ordered protesters to disperse after the demonstration turned into what they ...
Protests against Donald Trump - Wikipedia
Protests against Donald Trump - Wikipedia
Protests against Donald Trump, or anti-Trump protests, have occurred both in the United States ... At times, anti-Trump protesters have turned violent and attacked Trump supporters and vice versa; thisviolence has received bipartisan ...
Violence erupts as hundreds of Donald Trump supporters clash with ...
Violence erupts as hundreds of Donald Trump supporters clash with rivals at US rallies
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Pro-Trump rallies turn violent when anti-Trump protesters arrive
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Mostly by Bernie's Bolsheviks.
ALL of it by leftists who do not believe people have the right to free speech or thought.

You believe as they do, or you burn. It isn't just Trump rallies either. People are being attacked on University Campuses for having differing opinions from the left.

This is NOT a symptom of the Internet, but a symptom of close minded hatred and a "I want it my way all the time" mentality we have raised our children with.


It has very little to do with conseratives or the Internet.

I disagree....I think the internet, and by extension chat mediums, twitter etc has a lot to do with it. When people aren't face to face, a lot of social barriers break down - not seeing people's reaction removes an important check and balance to social interactions. It's easier to be mean, cruel, to not see the other as a person. I think that is slowly changing the way we interact.
People are face-to-face in these protests and the violence found on our University campuses. The left have been taught to hate anything and anyone not in lock-step with their world-view.

Protests are age old and, quite frankly - engaged in by both the left and the right. You seem intent on laying all the blame on just one ideology.
List three republican protests that ended up being riots from the past decade. If you find an example of it, i guarantee you that its just more democrats attacking trump supporters, and not a republican riot at all. Only democrats protest violently. Facts are facts, and im not going to let you make shit up when all the evidence is right in front of us.
 
Trump's lasting legacy will be those famous inspirational words that he spoke so frequently at his rallies:
"I'll pay your legal expenses!"

It's legitimizing it.

And that's something new coming from our "leadership".
It is legitamate. That's how some peoe feel. And they should feel free to express themselves every bit as much as any other American.
 
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I disagree....I think the internet, and by extension chat mediums, twitter etc has a lot to do with it. When people aren't face to face, a lot of social barriers break down - not seeing people's reaction removes an important check and balance to social interactions. It's easier to be mean, cruel, to not see the other as a person. I think that is slowly changing the way we interact.


I totally agree that social media now plays a big part in it.


There's another aspect to it also, and this is going to be a real issue for Trump and for the public and media in figuring out how to deal with Trump and that is the unfiltered instantaneousness of it.

Twitter - no depth, fast, immediate, short, reaches millions in second.

That means in a moment of anger, or thoughtlessness you send something that normally would sit in your mind, as you composed something longer, you would have time to think on it before releasing it, and you'd "self-filter". I was listening to something on NPR...might have been Radiolab, can't recall on exactly this sort of thing. How, in one example, a woman's life was destroyed because she tweeted something that became viral. She was young, visiting Africa - made a joke about Ebola and not getting it cause she was white" and it went viral. She was totally demonized, by people who didn't even know her, never met her, got death threats, hate mail, lost her job - it was unreal.
 
I think it is people as a whole. I don't think it is left or right, but the person. One chooses to hate, or not to hate. No political ideology forces anyone one way or another.
This is all where personal responsibility comes into play.
You're forgetting about class warfare though, dear Kat .

Republicans hate paying taxes even if they are rich. They want the shrinking middle class and working poor to pay it.

No, they do not. That is your opinion based upon your desire to demonize those you disagree with. You cannot find a single Republican or Conservative making that kind of statement.

Democrats envy the Republicans and want them (the latter) to pay more tax like they used to pre-Reagan.

Democrats need ACA.

Republicans hate having had ACA shoved down their throats by BHO like they did when Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi ran Congress.

Yet whenever the Republicans are in office, it is the Democrats who claim that the Republicans are shoving their morals down everyone's throat.

Democrats want abortion on demand right up to birth.

Republicans are anti abortion -- they call it murder.

60% of Republicans own guns -- half of which are assault carbines.

Outright dishonest statement. Show the rest of us what constitutes an 'assault carbine'.

Only 25% of Democrats own guns -- and they tend to shy away from assault carbines.

Republicans hate same sex marriage even though the SCOTUS ruled in favor of it (thanks to Kennedy).
A half-truth. Some Republicans hate same-sex marriage. The Conservative Republicans don't think government should be in anyone's bedroom. It is part of that whole, "small government" mentality we have.
Republicans hate ACA even though the SCOTUS ruled in favor of it (including Roberts).

Lots of divisiveness -- enough to go around.
Republicans don't believe the government should be in charge of a person healthcare. That is not hating.


Haven't YOU been demonizing the left here?
I have been pointing out that the lack of civility is coming almost exclusively from the left. You don't see any protestors from the right violently silencing dissent or opinion.

In fact, it is a recent phenomenon that the right has started fighting the left with their own tactic, which leads to threads like this.

Oh, those vile republicans. Look at how they talk to us!

Still, you won't find republicans or conservatives on the streets violently silencing people.

Where are the Democrat leaders telling people to stop it?
 
It is no more correct to blame the left for anarchists among the crowd, than to blame conservatives for white supremacists. What the left seems to be doing is calling others haters, clearly attacking others with hate and violence.
Being a leftie, I need to inform you that the folks on the right are doing the same. If you take away the anarchists and the supremacists/nationalists, which is as it should be, there is no more hate and violence on the left than on the right. Lots of silliness, still, but I think it's really about equal.

Then the left's violence is being reported more. In general you are saying what I said earlier, so we more or less agree. You may now be very scared. :lol:
 

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