Inequality, the Middle Class, and Growth

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Jared Bernstein: Inequality, the Middle Class, and Growth


Trickle-down economics, inequality, and incomes. Another piece of evidence with implications for rebuilding a strong middle class comes from new work by economists Emmanuel Saez et al. As shown in the figures from their paper (see here), they use international evidence from a wide variety of advanced economies to examine two key links in the logic of the supply-side chain.

First, they look at the relationship between the top marginal income tax rate in these countries and the change in income inequality. They find a strong negative correlation: in countries like ours that cut the top marginal tax rate, income is a lot more skewed (and note that this refers to pretax income, so the result is not a direct function of the tax policy changes).

But the critical question for supply-side is whether these high-end marginal tax rate reductions lead to faster income growth (we've already seen that they lead to more income inequality). The bottom figure shows that they do not. Real per capita income growth across these countries is unrelated to the changes in tax rates.

The above points emphasize an economic rationale for a growth model more favorable to the middle class. More broadly shared growth would not only score higher on a fairness criterion; it would provide a more reliable and durable structure for overall growth itself.
It is no accident, in this regard, that the era of heightened inequality coincides with the arrival and persistence of what I've called "the shampoo economy:" bubble, bust, repeat.


Why do non-rich Repugs continually vote against their economic interests? Mental illness?
 
then lighten the tax burden on the middle class....hello earth to libs worn message..that will create more purchasing power when you lower the taxes on those middle class sector. as obumer says, it's just math.
 
Demand creates jobs, not tax cuts for the rich and they lie when they say taking away tax cuts would hurt job creation, learn economics. Supply with little to no demand in the markets create no jobs.
 
The biggest advantage of having the uber-rich paying their fair share in taxes is that our natonal debt would be greatly reduced. Instead of having to destroy government services that help each citizen, the government could provide infrastructure improvement grants to communities, more health inspectors could be hired (and maybe slow down the constant e-coli outbreaks,) more staff could be hired to maintain our national parks...jobs. Jobs.

Or the 1% could keep their money and let the middle class continue to carry the tax burden, because apparently the middle class doesn't work hard for their money like the rich do.
 
Jared Bernstein: Inequality, the Middle Class, and Growth


Trickle-down economics, inequality, and incomes. Another piece of evidence with implications for rebuilding a strong middle class comes from new work by economists Emmanuel Saez et al. As shown in the figures from their paper (see here), they use international evidence from a wide variety of advanced economies to examine two key links in the logic of the supply-side chain.

First, they look at the relationship between the top marginal income tax rate in these countries and the change in income inequality. They find a strong negative correlation: in countries like ours that cut the top marginal tax rate, income is a lot more skewed (and note that this refers to pretax income, so the result is not a direct function of the tax policy changes).

But the critical question for supply-side is whether these high-end marginal tax rate reductions lead to faster income growth (we've already seen that they lead to more income inequality). The bottom figure shows that they do not. Real per capita income growth across these countries is unrelated to the changes in tax rates.

The above points emphasize an economic rationale for a growth model more favorable to the middle class. More broadly shared growth would not only score higher on a fairness criterion; it would provide a more reliable and durable structure for overall growth itself.
It is no accident, in this regard, that the era of heightened inequality coincides with the arrival and persistence of what I've called "the shampoo economy:" bubble, bust, repeat.
Why do non-rich Repugs continually vote against their economic interests? Mental illness?

A good book to read on this subject is "What's The Matter With Kansas" by Thomas Frank published in 2004
 
Demand creates jobs, not tax cuts for the rich and they lie when they say taking away tax cuts would hurt job creation, learn economics. Supply with little to no demand in the markets create no jobs.

How much demand is there when the gubmint is taking 50% of your income?

dumbass.... :lol:
 
Jared Bernstein: Inequality, the Middle Class, and Growth


Trickle-down economics, inequality, and incomes. Another piece of evidence with implications for rebuilding a strong middle class comes from new work by economists Emmanuel Saez et al. As shown in the figures from their paper (see here), they use international evidence from a wide variety of advanced economies to examine two key links in the logic of the supply-side chain.

First, they look at the relationship between the top marginal income tax rate in these countries and the change in income inequality. They find a strong negative correlation: in countries like ours that cut the top marginal tax rate, income is a lot more skewed (and note that this refers to pretax income, so the result is not a direct function of the tax policy changes).

But the critical question for supply-side is whether these high-end marginal tax rate reductions lead to faster income growth (we've already seen that they lead to more income inequality). The bottom figure shows that they do not. Real per capita income growth across these countries is unrelated to the changes in tax rates.

The above points emphasize an economic rationale for a growth model more favorable to the middle class. More broadly shared growth would not only score higher on a fairness criterion; it would provide a more reliable and durable structure for overall growth itself.
It is no accident, in this regard, that the era of heightened inequality coincides with the arrival and persistence of what I've called "the shampoo economy:" bubble, bust, repeat.
Why do non-rich Repugs continually vote against their economic interests? Mental illness?

A good book to read on this subject is "What's The Matter With Kansas" by Thomas Frank published in 2004

Is there a "What's the Matter With Mustang"?
 
The biggest advantage of having the uber-rich paying their fair share in taxes is that our natonal debt would be greatly reduced. Instead of having to destroy government services that help each citizen, the government could provide infrastructure improvement grants to communities, more health inspectors could be hired (and maybe slow down the constant e-coli outbreaks,) more staff could be hired to maintain our national parks...jobs. Jobs.

Or the 1% could keep their money and let the middle class continue to carry the tax burden, because apparently the middle class doesn't work hard for their money like the rich do.


Why is it when discussing the benefit of getting more money from the wealthy the left's first
thought is to spend it....they act like sticking it to the rich will cure every illness that ails this country.And the way to fix anything and everything to a progressive liberal democrat is to throw money at it.....

HOW ABOUT USING THIS WINDFALL TO PAY DOWN THE DEBT....TO USE IT TO PAY THE INTEREST ON THE FUCKING DEBT TO USE IT ON THE DEFICIT....

Spend,spend,spend....

It's all the left knows.... :evil:
 
Uncle Ferd says, "Yea - Obama keepin' his foot onna workin' guy's neck whilst helpin' the wealthy get richer...
:mad:
Income Inequality Worse Under Obama Than George W. Bush
4/11/2012 : President Obama may talk a big game about economic fairness, but his record on the issue doesn't quite match up.
There are lots of reasons to think so -- and we'll touch on several in just a minute -- but the most recent comes from Matt Stoller, blogging at Naked Capitalism, who points us toward a recent bit of number-crunching from Emmanuel Saez, a professor at the University of California, Berkeley. Saez, who's known for his work on the income gap, has highlighted a surprising and discouraging fact: during the post-recession period of 2009 and 2010, the rich snagged a greater share of total income growth than they did during the boom years of 2002 to 2007.

In other words, inequality has been even more pronounced under Obama than it was under George W. Bush. This news may not come as a shock if you're one of the many Americans who lost their job during the recession and couldn't find another that paid as well. It also might not surprise you if you're one of the 46 million people living in poverty -- a record number, as it happens -- or among the millions of Americans who can get by week to week, but would be ruined by a single financial emergency.

You might likewise not be surprised if you already knew that some household-goods companies are catering to this new reality by quietly neglecting their mid-price product lines, focusing instead on their high-end and budget offerings, since wages are diverging so much. Or if you knew that the U.S. ranks closer to China, Serbia and Rwanda than any other country in the developed world when it comes to income inequality.

On the other hand, if you've been listening to Obama decry the wealth gap on the campaign trail, and talk about the need to impose higher tax rates on millionaires, well, then you might be a little surprised. It was only a few months ago that the Congressional Budget Office released a report illustrating how the very richest Americans have pulled away from the rest of society in the past 30 years. But that report used data that was only complete through 2007. Saez's calculations go through 2010, suggesting that White House rhetoric or no, the trends of the past three decades haven't started to reverse themselves.

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Jared Bernstein: Inequality, the Middle Class, and Growth


Trickle-down economics, inequality, and incomes. Another piece of evidence with implications for rebuilding a strong middle class comes from new work by economists Emmanuel Saez et al. As shown in the figures from their paper (see here), they use international evidence from a wide variety of advanced economies to examine two key links in the logic of the supply-side chain.

First, they look at the relationship between the top marginal income tax rate in these countries and the change in income inequality. They find a strong negative correlation: in countries like ours that cut the top marginal tax rate, income is a lot more skewed (and note that this refers to pretax income, so the result is not a direct function of the tax policy changes).

But the critical question for supply-side is whether these high-end marginal tax rate reductions lead to faster income growth (we've already seen that they lead to more income inequality). The bottom figure shows that they do not. Real per capita income growth across these countries is unrelated to the changes in tax rates.

The above points emphasize an economic rationale for a growth model more favorable to the middle class. More broadly shared growth would not only score higher on a fairness criterion; it would provide a more reliable and durable structure for overall growth itself.
It is no accident, in this regard, that the era of heightened inequality coincides with the arrival and persistence of what I've called "the shampoo economy:" bubble, bust, repeat.


Why do non-rich Repugs continually vote against their economic interests? Mental illness?

Economics is way too complicated for most of them to understand. So the right wing propaganda uses religion and social issues to gain their trust. Then Fox can sell them any economic policy that suits its owners.

Add to that "starve the beast" trick:
1) First, cut taxes -- who does not want that?
2) Then point to the huge deficit and make hard decision to cut Medicare and social security.
 
Demand creates jobs, not tax cuts for the rich and they lie when they say taking away tax cuts would hurt job creation, learn economics. Supply with little to no demand in the markets create no jobs.

Quick economic lesson for you, free of charge:

When supply increases that means production has increased which means capital invested into companies has found its way into the bank accounts of workers. What happens next is true aggregate demand increases which in turn perpetuates more production and wages.

You have to begin with supply. If you try to kickstart a stagnated economy by artificially fueling demand, this can only be done with cheap credit, and it only results in swelling of private debt which is the biggest bottleneck in any modernized economy. The simple explanation of inflation is what happens to prices when too much credit $ chases too few goods/services. Approaching a lethargic economy from the demand side first is the easiest way to inflate credit bubbles by simply directing lines of credit towards specific sectors. Prices will always rise at a faster rate than production until the cheap credit is cut off and the bubble bursts.

A nation's aggregate demand is not something that needs to be stimulated by government. Think about the fundamental problem economics was invented to solve: Economic problem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

How do you satisfy unlimited demand with limited resources? Not by stimulating already unlimited demand.

A nation's aggregate supply = a nation's true aggregate wealth. It means that a nation's resources have been successfully organized and mass produced. The hard part of the production-consumption cycle is done. The wealth is intrinsic within the supply, and simply letting supply organically create demand is always the most efficient means of both redistributing a nation's wealth and keeping private debt low.
 
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Why to non rich gop-ers do this? Pretty simple. They play the lottery in the hopes of becoming part of the elite class themselves. That's the basis of their delusion.

Because of that delusion, they don't care if wages aren't high enough. They don't care if services get cut to people who need them....because they know that the day their number comes in they will be above all of that.
 
Demand creates jobs, not tax cuts for the rich and they lie when they say taking away tax cuts would hurt job creation, learn economics. Supply with little to no demand in the markets create no jobs.

Demand for what?
There is plenty of demand for cheap foriegn goods...that doesn't create jobs with sustainable income.
Do you go to WalMart or Coscoe or KMart etc. etc. and line up with everyone else buying the cheapest offerings they have?
Do you put a real effort in looking for goods manufactured in America?

Stop looking for corrupt politicians who have you looking like a sheep (and acting like one as well) - and realize it is our consumer choices that has the greatest effect on Americas economy.
 
Demand creates jobs, not tax cuts for the rich and they lie when they say taking away tax cuts would hurt job creation, learn economics. Supply with little to no demand in the markets create no jobs.

Demand for what?
There is plenty of demand for cheap foriegn goods...that doesn't create jobs with sustainable income.
Do you go to WalMart or Coscoe or KMart etc. etc. and line up with everyone else buying the cheapest offerings they have?
Do you put a real effort in looking for goods manufactured in America?

Stop looking for corrupt politicians who have you looking like a sheep (and acting like one as well) - and realize it is our consumer choices that has the greatest effect on Americas economy.

Do most people have a reasonable choice to that? Chicken/egg. One problem feeds the other.
 
Im laughing................

The k00ks best get used to the idea of supply-side economics because in a few months, its about to make a mega-comeback. And meanwhile, the Kenyesian model, which has never worked in the history of the world, is about to be mothballed for at least two generations.


And as Reidl sources and proves:


"Mountains of academic studies show how government expansions reduce economic growth:


1.Public Finance Review reported that "higher total government expenditure, no matter how financed, is associated with a lower growth rate of real per capita gross state product."


2.The Quarterly Journal of Economics reported that "the ratio of real government consumption expenditure to real GDP had a negative association with growth and investment," and "growth is inversely related to the share of government consumption in GDP, but insignificantly related to the share of public investment."


3.A Journal of Macroeconomics study discovered that "the coefficient of the additive terms of the government-size variable indicates that a 1% increase in government size decreases the rate of economic growth by 0.143%."


4.Public Choice reported that "a one percent increase in government spending as a percent of GDP (from, say, 30 to 31%) would raise the unemployment rate by approximately .36 of one percent (from, say, 8 to 8.36 percent)."




Keynesian Economics is a Failure


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C'mon............fucking NOBODY comes out of a recession with steady anemic growth rates for quarter after quarter. When your economic policy is to say to business, "FUCK YOU"!!!..........thats what happens.
 
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