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You are adding more bullshit. The Horten brother´s first glider flew 1933 and the Ho H.IV in 1941:You are apparently not an expert of military aircraft history but an "American Supremacy Avionist" or something whose "expertise" should be taken with a barrel of salt.In fact the Americans studied the German stealth bomber that was successfully tested in 1944.Russia has hundreds of military projects in development, a stealth fighters has no priority. It is luxury warfare with no real advantage whatsoever.
The fact remains that tje US is the first to do it and it isn't cheap. While some people complain that it cost too much with little benefits are just crying in their beer. We didn't do it because it was easy, we did it because it was hard to paraphrase.
"Hitler's Stealth Fighter" Re-created
Ah, you have hit dead center of my expertise as a Military Aircraft History.
The 229 was never intended nor known as stealth of any kind. Yes it was made of wood but there was enough metal to have it appear on radar. Much like the Mossie. And that was the Radar of that time period. The Shape is all they got right and didn't know it. The covering did help it to absorb some of the HF radar but not enough. The Germans weren't even aware of that quality. The only thing the Horten really got was it was the first jet twin engine flying wing. This is strictly Luft46 crap that keeps coming up over and over. And any stealth quality it had was purely by accident.
You forget that Jack Northop had already fielded a flying wing n 1929. It was powered by two inline engines and led to the other projects until it finally led to the B-2. They got the shape dead on. If you look at his 1929 design you will see exactly the same shape on the B-2. Like the Horten, it was wooden construction and fabric covered making it probably the first powered flight "Stealth" aircraft 14 years before the Horten actually flew. Again, any stealth quality it had was purely be accident and not by design.
There are others including Soviet designs that also would qualify from the 20s.
You should notice that the shape doesn't make it "Stealthy". It helps. What makes it stealthy was what was under the skin. For instance, the very first operation Stealth Aircraft was probably the SR-71. To this date, the baffling under the skin is top secret. Yes, it could be seen on radar. But it was on top of you before you detected it. By then, there was absolutely nothing you could do about it. It was a very primitive "Stealth" air frame but it led to Lockheed being able to build the F-117 and the F--22 along with the B-2 from Northrop.
The secrets of the F-117 are still closely guarded. But due to having early computers, it shape was as it was. It deflected radar waves at irregular angles as well as absorbed them. It was also very unstable. If the computer was lost, it would tumble and tear itself apart. It could only fly in a straight line or in a gentle curve. Anything beyond that would make it tear itself apart in that tumble.
With the advent of more powerful computers, the B-2 came about. It no longer needed to be made from sharp facets. Believe it or not, the B-2 is more stealthy than the F-22 until the doors come open. At that point, it stands out like a beacon in the sky until the doors are closed. The designers didn't have to compromise on the design. It was never meant to maneuver. The F-22 and the F-35 does have compromises but due them being a fraction of the size, it evens out.
The facts remains. Jack Northrop is the father of the first successful flying wing. And for Stealth, that goes to the Skunk Works of Lockheed. Any and all other attempts were not on purpose.
Your 1929 "Flying Wing" is not a flying wing and does not look like any modern stealth aircraft.
It is not only the shape that makes the Horten "stealthy" but also he materials used.
"After the war, Reimar Horten said he mixed charcoal dust in with the wood glue to absorb electromagnetic waves (radar), which he believed could shield the aircraft from detection by British early-warning ground-based radar that operated at 20 to 30 MHz (top end of the HF band), known as Chain Home. A jet-powered flying wing design such as the Horten Ho 229 has a smaller radar cross-section than conventional contemporary twin-engine aircraft because the wings blended into the fuselage and there are no large propeller disks or vertical and horizontal tail surfaces to provide a typical identifiable radar signature.
Engineers of the Northrop-Grumman Corporation had long been interested in the Ho 229, and several of them visited the Smithsonian Museum's facility in Silver Hill, Maryland in the early 1980s to study the V3 airframe, in the context of developing the Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit. A team of engineers from Northrop-Grumman ran electromagnetic tests on the V3's multilayer wooden center-section nose cones. The cones are 19 mm (0.75 in) thick and made from thin sheets of veneer. The team concluded that there was some form of conducting element in the glue, as the radar signal attenuated considerably as it passed through the cone. However, a later inspection by the museum found no trace of such material."
Horten Ho 229 - Wikipedia
Sounds good when you say it to yourself. But the fact remains, the first Stealth was not done by Northrop, it was done by Lockheed with NO inputs from the Hortens. And it wasn't a flying wing either. Enter the F-117.
The 229 was never produced as something that could be produced for service, period. It flew in Feb 1945 and owes nothing to the B-2s life. Northrops N-9M flew in 1942 which is the first real chain to bringing the B-2 through the line of XB-35 and YB-49. The 229 was first designed in 1943 making it a parrellel line that was already done by many countries before that as gliders. What you think as being known at the time of design and construction of the 229 was learned AFTER Germany surrendered and the US examined it in depth. Your mysterious coating was not found. Plus, it wasn't made from just wood. It had a steel frame making it less stealthy than the Mossie. Only because of the design, the 229 V3 would have been about 80% reflective as the ME109. Using your own Cite, you claims were completely debunked. And the 229 was NOT a new design. It was beaten to the punch by the US, French and Russian designs before it's design was started. Your whole argument is strictly Luft46. You can make the same claims that they do and it doesn't make it true.
Horten H.III 1937:
Horten H.III - Wikipedia
Horten H.II 1935:
Horten H.II - Wikipedia
Horten H.XVIII concept
Horten H.XVIII - Wikipedia
You excelled in denying German aircraft´s capabilities in previous discussions. Simple fact is that the German designs were ahead of their time and you can´t get around it with ridiculous claims.
"Your mysterious coating was not found"
"A team of engineers from Northrop-Grumman ran electromagnetic tests on the V3's multilayer wooden center-section nose cones. The cones are 19 mm (0.75 in) thick and made from thin sheets of veneer. The team concluded that there was some form of conducting element in the glue, as the radar signal attenuated considerably as it passed through the cone."