Independents, Third Party, Libertarians, Greens, Socialists, etc: Show thyselves.

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Do you affiliate with the Democrat or Republican Party?

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  1. Natural Citizen
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    Alright. Those are the people I want to hear from in this thread. Vote in the poll, please, for no other reason than to be counted and acknowledged. It is not intended for debate, though, civil debate is always encouraged.

    Now. Trends. For all of the numbers we hear, the one thing we never see discussed on mainstream cable news entertainment programming platforms are trends. And there's good reason for that. After all, they don't call it programming fier nothing.

    Here's why. 50%.

    Using the 2014 Mid-Term results as a model, 50% of American voters were no longer affiliated with either the Republican or Democrat parties. 50%.

    Support for the two-party system has been falling every year. Every year people are becoming more and more fed up with this fake two-party system. It's why Congress can have such a miserable approval rating that it does.

    2014 was an unprecedented year because third party candidates had the highest polling numbers in modern history. Debate rules were changed as a consequence so that independents were blocked from debate, even after winning the opportunity, and they were illegally removed from ballots.

    Rule 40b, the Ron Paul rule, for example, was enlisted after he already won the opportunity to debate. This, of course, was said to be a means of showing unity in the GOP.

    Now, that gave us Trump in 2016. And of similar notion, Bernie was also blocked from the DNC nomination as well. The GOP hated Trump. But, they later realized that he was a factor in repopularizing the GOP, so they nominated him. As well, the DNC did not want Bernie wrecking the status quo, even after he earned the right to be heard. Both those groups, like em or not, won the delegate game to the extent that they needed and they earned the right to speak.

    Here's the point. Do not think for one second that the establishment bosses in the fake two-party system haven't noticed the recent trend in Independents, third parties, greens, socialists, constitutionalists, etc, and do not think for one second they won't continue doing something about it. It's rigged!


    That's really all I have to say about it.

    Independents, third party, libertarians, greens, socialists, constitutionalists, I don't care what your worldview is, just vote "No" if you do not affiliate with either the Democrat or Republican Party in the poll please.

    I wanna see what we're working with.

    Thanks!
     
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    libertarian

    Scott and Nelson calling each other sleazebags in the race for senator.
    both candidates for the governor doing likewise and I agree with all of them
     
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    Kinettacist. I am on MY side.
     
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    Me, too.
     
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    The board doesn't really represent how American vote. Very few Americans are really interested in politics. A national Presidential Election might get them interested enough to go vote but, for most Americans, voting is like Easter or Xmas ... it's one time a year (or four years) that they even think about it.

    About 15% of Americans would vote for an empty suit if it had a Democrat label, and an equal number of American would vote for the same if it claimed to be Republican. Within than mix is a single percent that are equally dedicated to a third party. The other 70% of Americans have to actually get sufficiently excited about a candidate to get their collective butts off the couch and go and vote. They aren't really concerned about party, they're voting for the person that peaks their interest.

    This is why campaigning still really matters.
     
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    I was only interested in the board presence.Mainly because I see so much Democrat/Republican political football. Thus the poll to see who is actually Independent.

    Gallup said 43% were Independents after their leanings were calculated, but it turned out to be 50% at the 2014 Mid-Term prior to their leanings. It's historic.

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    Ground game too.
     
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    I admire your effort. That said, I have been leaning toward the yet to be created Democratic Feudalist Party of America. Who's with me? DFPA, for life!

    But seriously, the enemy of French Revolution era radical progressivism is not, never has been, Fascism, rather that ideology's ancient archenemy was Feudalism. Accordingly, in order to further give the American radical Left what it so desires, my proposal stands humbly extended for a democratic, constitutionally governed, modern age American Feudalism created to stand in worthy, historically speaking, opposition to postmodernism derived from Marx who derived from neighborhood friends such as Voltaire and Moore. So we Democratic Feudalists of America shall, after our officially mandated creation, set about electing Lords Palatine to govern demesnes around the nation, under which the citizens of their respective palatinates may directly vote for their own chosen form of state economy, militia organization and judicial system.

    A council of Feudal Lords (who come from the land of the ice and snow where the midnight sun . . . thanks to Jimmy and Robert and the rest of Led Zeppelin) will then replace the executive branch, implement mandatory military service in exchange for full citizenship and an education, and play national referee between all the Lords Palatines and their demesne states, oh, and yeah, eat lots of popcorn. Fishing will be a national pastime, along with reloading ammo, water balloon slingshot making and basket weaving for those so inclined (yeah, I got that merit badge, right after the snake handling reptile one). Everyone will be welcome from everywhere, after completing a three month vetting process in quarantine, on an island like the one with all the other snakes on it way down south, way, way down south.
     
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    Heh heh. You're right about Feudalism.

    To your latter points, I suppose it's true that the Amish and the Mennonites get to opt out and do their own thing. So, that's something to think about.
     
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    Consider myself Independent.
    Fiscally conservative, believe in strong military, Constitutional rights.
    I part ways with conservatives on the social issues.
    As much as I lean Libertarian, I feel that the party is too focused on the national rather than local races and found Gary to be a bit of a moron.

    My vote for Trump was essentially a middle finger to both parties that openly despised him.
    I despise them more.
     

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