In Britain, man afraid of retaliation can't use gun to stay safe...all he did was defend himself....

[JoeB131]

Moron...when you let them back out in less than 3 years, wether or not you lock them up is a moot fucking point....democrats keep letting violent gun criminals out of jail, they are the ones shooting each other and driving our gun murder rate, not John and Jane Q. Citizen who own guns to protect themselves from the criminals the democrats keep letting out of jail...

Guy, we lock people up for life for stealing slices of Pizza.

And um, yeah, most gun deaths are suicides, accidents and domestic violence, so it IS John and Jane Q who are the problem here.

 

[2aguy]

Can you give me a straight answer why more guns happens to correlate with fewer homicides in the case of Switzerland and the UK (both Central/Western European countries) when you're telling us the opposite should be true?

I've given you that answer. Guns in Switzerland (a sparsely populated country) are HIGHLY REGULATED. and they still have the occassional mass shooting.

Look, just because you dislike an answer doesn't mean I have to keep repeating it.

The rest of us are tired of you gun nuts inflicting carnage on the rest of us because you can't deal with having tiny dicks.

Moron......it doesn't matter if they are regulated...mass shooters here also go through all of our federal background checks, and fill out all the fucking paperwork too......then they shoot people......if a mass shooter in Switzerland wanted to murder people, he too would be "regulated" just before he took his fully automatic military rifle and murdered a bunch of people......Swiss gun laws do not stop a mass shooter there....they have fully automatic military weapons, they don't have AR-15 civilian rifles....

Americans use their legal guns 1,500,000 times a year to stop carnage...... democrats keep letting violent gun criminals out of jail and they are the ones committing the gun murder...not law abiding gun owners...

Nothing you say about guns is based in truth, facts or reality.

 

[2aguy]

Moron...when you let them back out in less than 3 years, wether or not you lock them up is a moot fucking point....democrats keep letting violent gun criminals out of jail, they are the ones shooting each other and driving our gun murder rate, not John and Jane Q. Citizen who own guns to protect themselves from the criminals the democrats keep letting out of jail...

Guy, we lock people up for life for stealing slices of Pizza.

And um, yeah, most gun deaths are suicides, accidents and domestic violence, so it IS John and Jane Q who are the problem here.

No....we did not lock him up for stealing pizza. He was locked up because he was a 3 time felon who committed his 3rd felony by stealing that pizza....knowing he was facing life in prison for it....he had a long history of crime and violence....and he still stole that pizza...

What is it with you morons and letting violent thugs out of jail?

 

[bgrouse]

Can you give me a straight answer why more guns happens to correlate with fewer homicides in the case of Switzerland and the UK (both Central/Western European countries) when you're telling us the opposite should be true?

I've given you that answer. Guns in Switzerland (a sparsely populated country) are HIGHLY REGULATED. and they still have the occassional mass shooting.

Look, just because you dislike an answer doesn't mean I have to keep repeating it.

Your answer doesn't address the question.

The question is: why are there fewer homicides in SUI than in UK when SUI has more guns.

Your answer might answer the question: why does SUI have so few homicides, but that's not what was asked. The previously mentioned question is what was asked.

The rest of us are tired of you gun nuts inflicting carnage on the rest of us because you can't deal with having tiny dicks.

Tiny dicks? Your tiny brain is what I'm dealing with, you fucking retard!

 

[JoeB131]

Moron......it doesn't matter if they are regulated...mass shooters here also go through all of our federal background checks, and fill out all the fucking paperwork too......then they shoot people.....

Which is just proof the background checks are inadequate.

Here's the thing. Hold gun sellers resposible for who they sell guns to, and guess what, they'll stop selling to crazy people when they pay out a few 7 figure settlements.

 

[JoeB131]

No....we did not lock him up for stealing pizza. He was locked up because he was a 3 time felon who committed his 3rd felony by stealing that pizza....knowing he was facing life in prison for it....he had a long history of crime and violence....and he still stole that pizza...

What is it with you morons and letting violent thugs out of jail?

Sorry, man, just can't get that worked up over "Grand theft Pizza". The fact is, the threat of prison didn't keep him from stealing it, how is it going to keep some bad guy from getting a gun and shooting his cheatin' old lady?

 

[2aguy]

Moron......it doesn't matter if they are regulated...mass shooters here also go through all of our federal background checks, and fill out all the fucking paperwork too......then they shoot people.....

Which is just proof the background checks are inadequate.

Here's the thing. Hold gun sellers resposible for who they sell guns to, and guess what, they'll stop selling to crazy people when they pay out a few 7 figure settlements.

Moron...those gun sellers followed the law....and you want to punish law abiding people who follow the law for the actions of people who break the law......you are why democrats can't be allowed to run anything....

 

[2aguy]

No....we did not lock him up for stealing pizza. He was locked up because he was a 3 time felon who committed his 3rd felony by stealing that pizza....knowing he was facing life in prison for it....he had a long history of crime and violence....and he still stole that pizza...

What is it with you morons and letting violent thugs out of jail?

Sorry, man, just can't get that worked up over "Grand theft Pizza". The fact is, the threat of prison didn't keep him from stealing it, how is it going to keep some bad guy from getting a gun and shooting his cheatin' old lady?

That is why, dumb ass.....when you catch a felon with a gun, you lock them up for 30 freaking years...because they have shown they don't care about the consequences of their actions which means they can and likely will use a gun to murder people....that is why you lock them up.....you are such a doofus......

 

[JoeB131]

Moron...those gun sellers followed the law....and you want to punish law abiding people who follow the law for the actions of people who break the law......you are why democrats can't be allowed to run anything....

They aren't following the spirit of the law when they sell to guys like Joker Holmes or Nikolas Cruz. Come on, if you guys were held responsible for who you sold to, you'd stop selling to the crazies.

But right now, the crazies are your best customers.

 

[bgrouse]

Moron...those gun sellers followed the law....and you want to punish law abiding people who follow the law for the actions of people who break the law......you are why democrats can't be allowed to run anything....

They aren't following the spirit of the law when they sell to guys like Joker Holmes or Nikolas Cruz. Come on, if you guys were held responsible for who you sold to, you'd stop selling to the crazies.

But right now, the crazies are your best customers.

Still no response to "why are there fewer homicides in SUI than in UK when SUI has more guns."

 

[JoeB131]

Still no response to "why are there fewer homicides in SUI than in UK when SUI has more guns."

Already gave you a response to that.

You just didn't like it, because your statement isn't true. Switzerland had a shitload of mass shooting incidents before they cracked down and regulated the guns.

 

[bgrouse]

Still no response to "why are there fewer homicides in SUI than in UK when SUI has more guns."

Already gave you a response to that.

You just didn't like it, because your statement isn't true. Switzerland had a shitload of mass shooting incidents before they cracked down and regulated the guns.

What's not true?

1. Fewer homicides in SUI than in UK.
2. More guns in SUI than UK.

?

 

[JoeB131]

What's not true?

That you have any ability to be reasoned with...

Now go away and play with the other children.

 

[bgrouse]

What's not true?

That you have any ability to be reasoned with...

Now go away and play with the other children.

You responded to this:

Still no response to "why are there fewer homicides in SUI than in UK when SUI has more guns."

Saying it's not true. What isn't true about it, you cowardly piece of shit?

 

[JoeB131]

You responded to this:

Still no response to "why are there fewer homicides in SUI than in UK when SUI has more guns."

Saying it's not true. What isn't true about it, you cowardly piece of shit?

again, gave you an answer, not going to explain the big words to you because you didn't understand them.

 

[bgrouse]

You responded to this:

Still no response to "why are there fewer homicides in SUI than in UK when SUI has more guns."

Saying it's not true. What isn't true about it, you cowardly piece of shit?

again, gave you an answer, not going to explain the big words to you because you didn't understand them.

You're a cowardly, worthless piece of shit, as proven by your post here refusing to address your claims.

 

[JoeB131]

You're a cowardly, worthless piece of shit, as proven by your post here refusing to address your claims.

actually, I did address them. But here's another address.

Okay, let's first start with populations. The UK has a population of 65 million, Switzerland has a population of 8 million

are we good so far? Excellent.

Okay, so how many gun homicides do they have.

2013: 23
2012: 12
2011: 38

Guns in the United Kingdom — Firearms, gun law and gun control

Um, okay. Wow, really good compared to our 11,000 in the US.

So how many do they have in Switzerland, where people can own highly regulated guns and the government can take them from you at any time.

Same three year period.

2013: 18
2012: 13
2011: 22

Guns in Switzerland — Firearms, gun law and gun control

Now, keep in mind, Switzerland has only 8 million people and the UK, which is more urban, has more evil Negroes, (which was your point, right) has 65 million. Yet they both seem to have the statistically low number of gun murders.

Now go home and get your shine box.

 

[bgrouse]

You're a cowardly, worthless piece of shit, as proven by your post here refusing to address your claims.

actually, I did address them. But here's another address.

Okay, let's first start with populations. The UK has a population of 65 million, Switzerland has a population of 8 million

are we good so far? Excellent.

Okay, so how many gun homicides

So at best all you proved is they stopped using guns to commit homicides and started using other means. That's precisely my point: you ban guns, and at best you change the tool of murder. The cause is still there: violent minorities.

Way to go, stupid!

Oh, and by the way:

Still no response to "why are there fewer homicides in SUI than in UK when SUI has more guns."

Note that there is a difference between HOMICIDES (what I asked) and GUN HOMICIDES (what you addressed).

 

[JoeB131]

So at best all you proved is they stopped using guns to commit homicides and started using other means. That's precisely my point: you ban guns, and at best you change the tool of murder. The cause is still there: violent minorities.

Okay, so you were wrong and couldn't admit it.

Okay, same website.

653 Homicides out of 65,000,000. Rate - 1/100,000.

Switzerland (why you keep calling it SUI is weird, but never mind.)

57 homicides out of 8,000,000 - 1/140,350

Wow... that's statistically insignificant.

 

[bgrouse]

So at best all you proved is they stopped using guns to commit homicides and started using other means. That's precisely my point: you ban guns, and at best you change the tool of murder. The cause is still there: violent minorities.

Okay, so you were wrong and couldn't admit it.

Wrong about what, dumbass? My question has been about homicides/violent crime for a while. You're the only obtuse, worthless idiot here who decided to only talk about gun homicides only, as if making people kill each other with bats and knives instead of guns is some huge accomplishment!

Okay, same website.

653 Homicides out of 65,000,000. Rate - 1/100,000.

Switzerland (why you keep calling it SUI is weird, but never mind.)

It's one of the well-known abbreviations for it, stupid. You'd think that with internet access, you'd do a search and find out in 30 seconds what it is, but no, not with your steadfast commitment to ignorance!

57 homicides out of 8,000,000 - 1/140,350

Wow... that's statistically insignificant.

Statistically insignificant? This coming from you?! You, the moron who has been yammering on and on about mass shootings?

Switzerland is largely rural and has a pretty small population.

Point is, they aren't the gun nuttery that we have in the US. You don't get a gun unless they know you can trust you with it... and they STILL have the occassional mass shooting.

The UK Hasn't had a mass shooting since the 1990's.

No other advanced country has the level of slaughter we have, so bad it really takes a mass shooting to even get us to talk about it.

This isn't fucking complicated.

The toughest gun law in the US is like the tallest midget.

a tough gun law would be a national one, not one you can get around by crossing from Chicago into Cicero and buying all the guns you want.

Yup, Racism again...

Um, all the mass shooters are white kids of privilege... but you keep going on about the scary negroes.

Already gave you a response to that.

You just didn't like it, because your statement isn't true. Switzerland had a shitload of mass shooting incidents before they cracked down and regulated the guns.

When even by some of the more liberal estimates, mass shootings in the US kill fewer than 500 people yearly!!! That's fewer than 500 / 320 million, or 0.15 per 100,000!!! And you're saying 1/100,000 is not statistically significant?! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

You STUPID! FUCKING! RETARD!