P F Tinmore
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Challenger, et al,
There is no such thing as the Zionist Justice System. In fact, I find Legal System of the Jewish State of Israel even more difficult to describe than the difference between the various composite factions that make-up Israeli Society.
(COMMENT)If you don't believe that a valid investigation is going to be preformed, then you really shouldn't raise the issue.
I note your freudian slip there RoccoR, clearly you do understand the true nature of the Zionist justice system.
The Israeli Legal System is a complex architecture that have similarities to English Common Law, British Mandate Regulations, blended with the Halakha, Christian biblical morals, and sharia law. It mimics the diverse nature that is the face of Israel Society. But if there is such a thing as "Zionist Law," it is not incorporated into the mainstream of the complex legal system of Israel.
(COMMENT)I raised the issue because the Zionist state promotes itself as "a bastion of freedom and Western democracy in a benighted Muslim middle east" yet constantly resorts to extra-judicial killings (a.k.a. murders), assassinations, collective punishment, illegal detentions, house demolitions, brutality on a scale no Western regime would countenance these days.
Answer Direct: This is a subjective view, for a situation that Western Legal concepts are not geared to address. What you subjectively call extra-judicial killings (a.k.a. murders), assassinations, collective punishment, illegal detentions, house demolitions, and brutality is --- in many respects --- the evolution of the appropriate force necessary to subdue an otherwise renegade and radicalized Islamic culture that directly advocates Jihad and openly rejects settlement of their international disputes by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, resort to regional agencies or arrangements or other peaceful means of their choice. The Islamist answer to solving the Palestinian question, Hamas advocates violent Jihad until Israel is destroyed (the attainment of a political outcome through the systematic use of force). HAMAS is generally thought of as having a Sunni based foundation. And Jihadist groups such as al-Qaeda have repeatedly criticized HAMAS for recognizing man-made laws and becoming involved in democratic elections, while HAMAS, in turn, has repressed – and sometimes fought against – rival Jihadist groups to secure it power. Now this tidbit is very important when you examine the overall difference in strategy between HAMAS and FATAH.
LAWFARE: HAMAS does not engage in high visibility efforts to apply "man-made" law to the given situation and conflict. However, the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) and FATAH do. The classic example has been to attempt to apply pressure on the Jewish State by collecting and amassing an impressive bundle of non-binding General Assembly Resolution which condemn Israel in one way or another in the Israeli containment process of various violent elements and radicalized Islamic threats in the region. However, FATAH has engaged in a deliberate campaign of filing a series of malicious complaints with the International Criminal Court (ICC), in a gamble designed to punish and silence those who engage in public discourse about radical Islam. This is dovetailed with the radicalized and dangerous unrest Islamic Jihadists have demonstrated resent European countries targeted to be coerced to achieve their political goals. Up to this point many countries, in order to avoid a confrontation with the more violent aspects of radicalized Islamic elements, have chosen to appear opposed to Israeli tactics and strategies by publicly condemning Israel, but privately appreciative of their containment (in the interest of public concern and international regional security) effort of potential Islamic threats (as demonstrated in France within the last couple of days).
It appears that, unless it is at least contained both militarily and politically, the Islamic Resistance Movement (HAMAS) will continue to expand and threaten major instability in the region with the prospect of escalating the conflict that could eventually draw in DAESH (Islamic State). Raising the two key question among other Regional Arab States:
- Can the Jihadist revolution be contained?
- What will be the ramification of forcing Israel to lift its containment of the Sunni Jihadists in Palestine?
(COMMENT)When those 20 IDF soldiers are arested and brought to trial and convicted with more than a judicial slap on the wrist, I'll believe a valid investigation has taken place and Zionist Israel is indeed a "bastion of freedom and Western democracy" until then I'll remain skeptical.
As I said, so much for due process. The nazis said the same thing about the resistance movements of occupied Europe in WW2.Any day is a good day to neutralize a terrorist.
Any place is a good place to neutralize a terrorist.
I guess I should have said that "Any Day is a Good Day to enforce Article 68 of the Geneva Convention!" --- OR --- Maybe I should have said that Any Day is a Good Day to intensify and accelerate the exchange of operational information, especially regarding actions or movements of terrorist persons or networks; S/RES/1373 (2001). "Nothing can justify terrorism — ever. No grievance, no goal, no cause can excuse terrorist acts." (Secretary-General January 2013)
Most Respectfully,
R
I guess I should have said that "Any Day is a Good Day to enforce Article 68 of the Geneva Convention!"
OK, but article 68 violations are a civilian concern. The response is law enforcement not military. The perpetrators must be duly arrested and taken to court. Since there is no death penalty in civil law, incarceration is the only option after determination of guilt.