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[Asclepias]

So your using Canada laws to prove your case in the US? You do realize their laws dont dictate what we can use in court right?

They did what you want, they registered their long guns and it was a complete shit show.....it cost more in money and man power than they had...

Canada Tried Registering Long Guns -- And Gave Up

15 million guns.....1 billion dollars...and it didn't work....



The law passed and starting in 1998 Canadians were required to have a license to own firearms and register their weapons with the government. According to Canadian researcher (and gun enthusiast) Gary Mauser, the Canada Firearms Center quickly rose to 600 employees and the cost of the effort climbed past $600 million. In 2002 Canada’s auditor general released a report saying initial cost estimates of $2 million (Canadian) had increased to $1 billion as the government tried to register the estimated 15 million guns owned by Canada’s 34 million residents.

The registry was plagued with complications like duplicate serial numbers and millions of incomplete records, Mauser reports. One person managed to register a soldering gun, demonstrating the lack of precise standards. And overshadowing the effort was the suspicion of misplaced effort: Pistols were used in 66% of gun homicides in 2011, yet they represent about 6% of the guns in Canada. Legal long guns were used in 11% of killings that year, according to Statistics Canada, while illegal weapons like sawed-off shotguns and machine guns, which by definition cannot be registered, were used in another 12%.

So the government was spending the bulk of its money — about $17 million of the Firearms Center’s $82 million annual budget — trying to register long guns when the statistics showed they weren’t the problem.

There was also the question of how registering guns was supposed to reduce crime and suicide in the first place. From 1997 to 2005, only 13% of the guns used in homicides were registered. Police studies in Canada estimated that 2-16% of guns used in crimes were stolen from legal owners and thus potentially in the registry. The bulk of the guns, Canadian officials concluded, were unregistered weapons imported illegally from the U.S. by criminal gangs.

Finally in 2011, conservatives led by Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper voted to abolish the long-gun registry and destroy all its records. Liberals argued the law had contributed to the decline in gun homicides since it was passed. But Mauser notes that gun homicides have actually been rising in recent years, from 151 in 1999 to 173 in 2009, as violent criminal gangs use guns in their drug turf wars and other disputes. As in the U.S., most gun homicides in Canada are committed by young males, many of them with criminal records. In the majority of homicides involving young males, the victim and the killer are know each other.

Good thing we arent in Canada right?

If socialists like you take over we will be in the same boat only here, most will not give up their guns like the pussies in Canada did. Now this is where you start with the "keyboard commando" remarks.

Having a registry doesnt mean you have to give up your gun dummy. It just a way of tracking who it belongs to.

Yes....so when they get the political power to ban them, they know whose house to go to to get that gun.

When are they going to come and get my guns?

 

[miketx]

When were they told to register the assault weapons? Yesterday? Usually you know at least by the 1rst of the year.

What law says they are going to later be confiscated?

Semi-automatic firearms are not "assault weapons"

You may want to tell California law makers you changed the definition. They say otherwise.


Frequently Asked Questions

1. What is considered an assault weapon under California law?
   
   There are three categories of assault weapons under California law:
   • Category One: Firearms specified on the original Roberti-Roos assault weapons list. (Pen. Code, § 30510, subds. (a),(b), and (c).)
   • Category Two: Firearms specified on the AK and AR-15 series weapons, pdf. (Pen. Code, § 30510, subds. (e) and (f).)
   • Category Three: Firearms defined as assault weapons based on specific generic characteristics, often called “SB 23 assault weapons.” (Pen. Code, § 30515.)
   
   
   
2. What are AK and AR-15 series weapons?
   
   These assault weapons are listed by the Department of Justice (DOJ) in the California Code of Regulations, title 11, section 5499.

They are currently in violation of the Supreme Court decision D.C v Heller....... their ban on these weapons is in violation of the Constitution....

Lifes tough aint it? If they are in violation why doesnt the SC do something about it?

Soon, we think they will. You know what I mean too.

 

[2aguy]

They did what you want, they registered their long guns and it was a complete shit show.....it cost more in money and man power than they had...

Canada Tried Registering Long Guns -- And Gave Up

15 million guns.....1 billion dollars...and it didn't work....



The law passed and starting in 1998 Canadians were required to have a license to own firearms and register their weapons with the government. According to Canadian researcher (and gun enthusiast) Gary Mauser, the Canada Firearms Center quickly rose to 600 employees and the cost of the effort climbed past $600 million. In 2002 Canada’s auditor general released a report saying initial cost estimates of $2 million (Canadian) had increased to $1 billion as the government tried to register the estimated 15 million guns owned by Canada’s 34 million residents.

The registry was plagued with complications like duplicate serial numbers and millions of incomplete records, Mauser reports. One person managed to register a soldering gun, demonstrating the lack of precise standards. And overshadowing the effort was the suspicion of misplaced effort: Pistols were used in 66% of gun homicides in 2011, yet they represent about 6% of the guns in Canada. Legal long guns were used in 11% of killings that year, according to Statistics Canada, while illegal weapons like sawed-off shotguns and machine guns, which by definition cannot be registered, were used in another 12%.

So the government was spending the bulk of its money — about $17 million of the Firearms Center’s $82 million annual budget — trying to register long guns when the statistics showed they weren’t the problem.

There was also the question of how registering guns was supposed to reduce crime and suicide in the first place. From 1997 to 2005, only 13% of the guns used in homicides were registered. Police studies in Canada estimated that 2-16% of guns used in crimes were stolen from legal owners and thus potentially in the registry. The bulk of the guns, Canadian officials concluded, were unregistered weapons imported illegally from the U.S. by criminal gangs.

Finally in 2011, conservatives led by Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper voted to abolish the long-gun registry and destroy all its records. Liberals argued the law had contributed to the decline in gun homicides since it was passed. But Mauser notes that gun homicides have actually been rising in recent years, from 151 in 1999 to 173 in 2009, as violent criminal gangs use guns in their drug turf wars and other disputes. As in the U.S., most gun homicides in Canada are committed by young males, many of them with criminal records. In the majority of homicides involving young males, the victim and the killer are know each other.

Good thing we arent in Canada right?

If socialists like you take over we will be in the same boat only here, most will not give up their guns like the pussies in Canada did. Now this is where you start with the "keyboard commando" remarks.

Having a registry doesnt mean you have to give up your gun dummy. It just a way of tracking who it belongs to.

Yes....so when they get the political power to ban them, they know whose house to go to to get that gun.

When are they going to come and get my guns?

When they think they can do it and still keep power.....

 

[Asclepias]

When were they told to register the assault weapons? Yesterday? Usually you know at least by the 1rst of the year.

What law says they are going to later be confiscated?

Semi-automatic firearms are not "assault weapons"

You may want to tell California law makers you changed the definition. They say otherwise.


Frequently Asked Questions

1. What is considered an assault weapon under California law?
   
   There are three categories of assault weapons under California law:
   • Category One: Firearms specified on the original Roberti-Roos assault weapons list. (Pen. Code, § 30510, subds. (a),(b), and (c).)
   • Category Two: Firearms specified on the AK and AR-15 series weapons, pdf. (Pen. Code, § 30510, subds. (e) and (f).)
   • Category Three: Firearms defined as assault weapons based on specific generic characteristics, often called “SB 23 assault weapons.” (Pen. Code, § 30515.)
   
   
   
2. What are AK and AR-15 series weapons?
   
   These assault weapons are listed by the Department of Justice (DOJ) in the California Code of Regulations, title 11, section 5499.

They are currently in violation of the Supreme Court decision D.C v Heller....... their ban on these weapons is in violation of the Constitution....

Lifes tough aint it? If they are in violation why doesnt the SC do something about it?

Soon, we think they will. You know what I mean too.

When is soon? Are you really that dumb to think they are going to go after my guns? With the internet and mobile phones they would have a full scale revolt on their hands if they tried to confiscate guns. You moron need to stop listening to those survivalists and use your brains.

 

[Asclepias]

Good thing we arent in Canada right?

If socialists like you take over we will be in the same boat only here, most will not give up their guns like the pussies in Canada did. Now this is where you start with the "keyboard commando" remarks.

Having a registry doesnt mean you have to give up your gun dummy. It just a way of tracking who it belongs to.

Yes....so when they get the political power to ban them, they know whose house to go to to get that gun.

When are they going to come and get my guns?

When they think they can do it and still keep power.....

When will that be? I dont see it happening anytime soon.

 

[miketx]

They did what you want, they registered their long guns and it was a complete shit show.....it cost more in money and man power than they had...

Canada Tried Registering Long Guns -- And Gave Up

15 million guns.....1 billion dollars...and it didn't work....



The law passed and starting in 1998 Canadians were required to have a license to own firearms and register their weapons with the government. According to Canadian researcher (and gun enthusiast) Gary Mauser, the Canada Firearms Center quickly rose to 600 employees and the cost of the effort climbed past $600 million. In 2002 Canada’s auditor general released a report saying initial cost estimates of $2 million (Canadian) had increased to $1 billion as the government tried to register the estimated 15 million guns owned by Canada’s 34 million residents.

The registry was plagued with complications like duplicate serial numbers and millions of incomplete records, Mauser reports. One person managed to register a soldering gun, demonstrating the lack of precise standards. And overshadowing the effort was the suspicion of misplaced effort: Pistols were used in 66% of gun homicides in 2011, yet they represent about 6% of the guns in Canada. Legal long guns were used in 11% of killings that year, according to Statistics Canada, while illegal weapons like sawed-off shotguns and machine guns, which by definition cannot be registered, were used in another 12%.

So the government was spending the bulk of its money — about $17 million of the Firearms Center’s $82 million annual budget — trying to register long guns when the statistics showed they weren’t the problem.

There was also the question of how registering guns was supposed to reduce crime and suicide in the first place. From 1997 to 2005, only 13% of the guns used in homicides were registered. Police studies in Canada estimated that 2-16% of guns used in crimes were stolen from legal owners and thus potentially in the registry. The bulk of the guns, Canadian officials concluded, were unregistered weapons imported illegally from the U.S. by criminal gangs.

Finally in 2011, conservatives led by Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper voted to abolish the long-gun registry and destroy all its records. Liberals argued the law had contributed to the decline in gun homicides since it was passed. But Mauser notes that gun homicides have actually been rising in recent years, from 151 in 1999 to 173 in 2009, as violent criminal gangs use guns in their drug turf wars and other disputes. As in the U.S., most gun homicides in Canada are committed by young males, many of them with criminal records. In the majority of homicides involving young males, the victim and the killer are know each other.

Good thing we arent in Canada right?

If socialists like you take over we will be in the same boat only here, most will not give up their guns like the pussies in Canada did. Now this is where you start with the "keyboard commando" remarks.

Having a registry doesnt mean you have to give up your gun dummy. It just a way of tracking who it belongs to.

Yes....so when they get the political power to ban them, they know whose house to go to to get that gun.

When are they going to come and get my guns?

As soon as shills like you and the rest of the media imbeciles put enough traitors in office to do it. When will you be able to do that?

 

[miketx]

If socialists like you take over we will be in the same boat only here, most will not give up their guns like the pussies in Canada did. Now this is where you start with the "keyboard commando" remarks.

Having a registry doesnt mean you have to give up your gun dummy. It just a way of tracking who it belongs to.

Yes....so when they get the political power to ban them, they know whose house to go to to get that gun.

When are they going to come and get my guns?

When they think they can do it and still keep power.....

When will that be? I dont see it happening anytime soon.

As soon as shills like you and the rest of the media imbeciles put enough traitors in office to do it. When will you be able to do that?

 

[2aguy]

If socialists like you take over we will be in the same boat only here, most will not give up their guns like the pussies in Canada did. Now this is where you start with the "keyboard commando" remarks.

Having a registry doesnt mean you have to give up your gun dummy. It just a way of tracking who it belongs to.

Yes....so when they get the political power to ban them, they know whose house to go to to get that gun.

When are they going to come and get my guns?

When they think they can do it and still keep power.....

When will that be? I dont see it happening anytime soon.

It took Britain a long time and they still did it....... but the first step is registration, the Germans registered guns in the 1920s, and confiscated them in the late 1930s.....

 

[Asclepias]

Good thing we arent in Canada right?

If socialists like you take over we will be in the same boat only here, most will not give up their guns like the pussies in Canada did. Now this is where you start with the "keyboard commando" remarks.

Having a registry doesnt mean you have to give up your gun dummy. It just a way of tracking who it belongs to.

Yes....so when they get the political power to ban them, they know whose house to go to to get that gun.

When are they going to come and get my guns?

As soon as shills like you and the rest of the media imbeciles put enough traitors in office to do it. When will you be able to do that?

I dont plan on putting anyone in office that will take my guns. What kind of retard are you?

 

[miketx]

If socialists like you take over we will be in the same boat only here, most will not give up their guns like the pussies in Canada did. Now this is where you start with the "keyboard commando" remarks.

Having a registry doesnt mean you have to give up your gun dummy. It just a way of tracking who it belongs to.

Yes....so when they get the political power to ban them, they know whose house to go to to get that gun.

When are they going to come and get my guns?

As soon as shills like you and the rest of the media imbeciles put enough traitors in office to do it. When will you be able to do that?

I dont plan on putting anyone in office that will take my guns. What kind of retard are you?

Lol! backed into a corner and lies, every time. You will vote for a democrat and any vote for a democrat is a vote take away gun rights. You are a liar.

 

[Asclepias]

Having a registry doesnt mean you have to give up your gun dummy. It just a way of tracking who it belongs to.

Yes....so when they get the political power to ban them, they know whose house to go to to get that gun.

When are they going to come and get my guns?

As soon as shills like you and the rest of the media imbeciles put enough traitors in office to do it. When will you be able to do that?

I dont plan on putting anyone in office that will take my guns. What kind of retard are you?

Lol! backed into a corner and lies, every time. You will vote for a democrat and any vote for a democrat is a vote take away gun rights. You are a liar.

Stop regurgitating Drumpfonian lies. My vehicles have been registered for years and no one has confiscated them.

 

[jon_berzerk]

so why write a law that does not target the criminal but rather only the law abiding

I didn't write the law, I'm just pointing out that the USSC ruling did not make it legal for criminals to own guns.

i am saying that registration laws only target the law abiding

I agree to disagree. Anyone caught with Arms without registration, would be in more serious trouble.

except for the criminal the Supreme Court has ruled that felons can not be compelled to register firearms so they can not be charged

for a crime for failing to do so

why not? even felons have to have a driver's license to drive.

because of 5th amendment rights

 

[Montrovant]

Having a registry doesnt mean you have to give up your gun dummy. It just a way of tracking who it belongs to.

Yes....so when they get the political power to ban them, they know whose house to go to to get that gun.

When are they going to come and get my guns?

When they think they can do it and still keep power.....

When will that be? I dont see it happening anytime soon.

It took Britain a long time and they still did it....... but the first step is registration, the Germans registered guns in the 1920s, and confiscated them in the late 1930s.....

There were some changes in the German government during that time...

 

[Montrovant]

so why write a law that does not target the criminal but rather only the law abiding

I didn't write the law, I'm just pointing out that the USSC ruling did not make it legal for criminals to own guns.

i am saying that registration laws only target the law abiding

I agree to disagree. Anyone caught with Arms without registration, would be in more serious trouble.

except for the criminal the Supreme Court has ruled that felons can not be compelled to register firearms so they can not be charged

for a crime for failing to do so

why not? even felons have to have a driver's license to drive.

It's not illegal for a felon to have a driver's license. The USSC ruled that requiring someone to register a gun that is illegal for them to own was in violation of the 5th amendment's right to not self-incriminate.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Yes....so when they get the political power to ban them, they know whose house to go to to get that gun.

When are they going to come and get my guns?

As soon as shills like you and the rest of the media imbeciles put enough traitors in office to do it. When will you be able to do that?

I dont plan on putting anyone in office that will take my guns. What kind of retard are you?

Lol! backed into a corner and lies, every time. You will vote for a democrat and any vote for a democrat is a vote take away gun rights. You are a liar.

Stop regurgitating Drumpfonian lies. My vehicles have been registered for years and no one has confiscated them.

Idiot you only have to register vehicles if you drive them on government roads

 

[Two Thumbs]

California wants to confiscate guns..... first, they have to get the citizens to register those guns .... which is what the new law does in California...if you do not register your Semi automatic rifle for later confiscation by midnight, you go from law abiding citizen at 11:59 to felon at 12:00 a.m. without ever using your gun to shoot anyone or to commit any crime....

Meanwhile.... the criminals in California continue to use their illegal guns for rape, robbery and murder...

BREAKING: California "Assault Weapons" Registration Site Crashing As Midnight Deadline Nears - The Truth About Guns

f firearms are not registered before the deadline, gun owners could be charged with a felony and receive up to eight years in prison.

butbutbut, the left keeps telling us they are not coming for a guns!!

they didn't lie, again, did they?!?!?!?!?!

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

When were they told to register the assault weapons? Yesterday? Usually you know at least by the 1rst of the year.

What law says they are going to later be confiscated?

Semi-automatic firearms are not "assault weapons"

You may want to tell California law makers you changed the definition. They say otherwise.


Frequently Asked Questions

1. What is considered an assault weapon under California law?
   
   There are three categories of assault weapons under California law:
   • Category One: Firearms specified on the original Roberti-Roos assault weapons list. (Pen. Code, § 30510, subds. (a),(b), and (c).)
   • Category Two: Firearms specified on the AK and AR-15 series weapons, pdf. (Pen. Code, § 30510, subds. (e) and (f).)
   • Category Three: Firearms defined as assault weapons based on specific generic characteristics, often called “SB 23 assault weapons.” (Pen. Code, § 30515.)
   
   
   
2. What are AK and AR-15 series weapons?
   
   These assault weapons are listed by the Department of Justice (DOJ) in the California Code of Regulations, title 11, section 5499.

I've owned firearms for over 40 years and served in the Army. I've fired everything from black powder muzzle loaders to heavy machine guns. I can not go down to my local gunshop and purchase anything that functions the same as the weapons I fired in the military. They are singling out rifles for what they look like not how they operate

Thats all somewhat interesting but it has nothing to do with the point that there are semi automatic weapons which are classified as assault weapons in contradiction to your claim.

Only people who don't know shit about firearms call semi-automatics "assault" rifles. Face it the anti-constitutionalist are banning firearms because of cosmetics.

 

[Asclepias]

When were they told to register the assault weapons? Yesterday? Usually you know at least by the 1rst of the year.

What law says they are going to later be confiscated?

Semi-automatic firearms are not "assault weapons"

You may want to tell California law makers you changed the definition. They say otherwise.


Frequently Asked Questions

1. What is considered an assault weapon under California law?
   
   There are three categories of assault weapons under California law:
   • Category One: Firearms specified on the original Roberti-Roos assault weapons list. (Pen. Code, § 30510, subds. (a),(b), and (c).)
   • Category Two: Firearms specified on the AK and AR-15 series weapons, pdf. (Pen. Code, § 30510, subds. (e) and (f).)
   • Category Three: Firearms defined as assault weapons based on specific generic characteristics, often called “SB 23 assault weapons.” (Pen. Code, § 30515.)
   
   
   
2. What are AK and AR-15 series weapons?
   
   These assault weapons are listed by the Department of Justice (DOJ) in the California Code of Regulations, title 11, section 5499.

I've owned firearms for over 40 years and served in the Army. I've fired everything from black powder muzzle loaders to heavy machine guns. I can not go down to my local gunshop and purchase anything that functions the same as the weapons I fired in the military. They are singling out rifles for what they look like not how they operate

Thats all somewhat interesting but it has nothing to do with the point that there are semi automatic weapons which are classified as assault weapons in contradiction to your claim.

Only people who don't know shit about firearms call semi-automatics "assault" rifles. Face it the anti-constitutionalist are banning firearms because of cosmetics.

Your opinion of what they know or dont know lacks any credibility or authority to make them change their definition. Pouting about it only makes you look like a whiner. Now you have to deal with the fact you simply were ignorant and made a false claim.

 

[Asclepias]

California wants to confiscate guns..... first, they have to get the citizens to register those guns .... which is what the new law does in California...if you do not register your Semi automatic rifle for later confiscation by midnight, you go from law abiding citizen at 11:59 to felon at 12:00 a.m. without ever using your gun to shoot anyone or to commit any crime....

Meanwhile.... the criminals in California continue to use their illegal guns for rape, robbery and murder...

BREAKING: California "Assault Weapons" Registration Site Crashing As Midnight Deadline Nears - The Truth About Guns

f firearms are not registered before the deadline, gun owners could be charged with a felony and receive up to eight years in prison.

butbutbut, the left keeps telling us they are not coming for a guns!!

they didn't lie, again, did they?!?!?!?!?!

If they are coming for our guns why havent they taken mine yet?

 

[Asclepias]

When are they going to come and get my guns?

As soon as shills like you and the rest of the media imbeciles put enough traitors in office to do it. When will you be able to do that?

I dont plan on putting anyone in office that will take my guns. What kind of retard are you?

Lol! backed into a corner and lies, every time. You will vote for a democrat and any vote for a democrat is a vote take away gun rights. You are a liar.

Stop regurgitating Drumpfonian lies. My vehicles have been registered for years and no one has confiscated them.

Idiot you only have to register vehicles if you drive them on government roads

I do drive them on government roads and have done so for years. No one has come to confiscate my vehicles. Wasnt that your point? That the government would confiscate anything you register?